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January WrassleGAF |OT| Rocky Road to Wrestle Kingdom Starts Now

SoulPlaya

more money than God
I honestly feel like Kane is one of the only truly nice, humble guys around. I can't imagine him talking shit about anyone.

I'd trust my girlfriend with him.

Even if he slipped it in I'd still be cool.
You will never find anyone in the industry with anything bad to say about him, ever.

And yeah, I'd trust my wife/gf with him. No question.
 

Enfinit

Member
Rumble's been pretty bad in recent years, but it's still may favorite PPV. Love seeing the surprise entrants.

Overall, I'd say MITB has been the best PPV in recent years, followed closely by WM and EC.
 

Lunchbox

Banned
I don't usually cheer for murderers but tonight I made an exception.

12th year anniversary of your grudge

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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
I was watching Raw where Shelton pinned Hunter, and you see the crowd get up and hold their arms out when they count 3.

You don't ever see that anymore.

And here's Shinskee decapitating La Sombra
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Omega

Banned
Who's GAF got as the odds of winning the Rumble this year? Obviously Cena's got to be 2:1, but are there any dark horses?

Cena's alter ego?

He's got nothing else left to do so maybe he creates another persona like Mick Foley did with Dude Love.
 

strobogo

Banned
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WCW Monday Nitro 7/31/2000


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Show starts with a RIP graphic for Gordon Solie. I thought he was dead sometime in the mid 90s, actually.

EARLIER TODAY. Booker T arrived on a rainy day in Cincinnati. His wife was driving because Booker's knee is hurt. She begs him not to do this tonight. Maybe she should have just not agreed to drive him to the arena?

Booker T comes to the ring. There were shots of fans that I couldn't tell if they were dressed up in full black face and body or as the Blue Man Group. Someone will have to kill him to get his title. Booker vs Sting will happen tonight. Jeff comes out with his stupid looking wet shirt. "Hold on there, Slapatory!" Bomb on ya mom! Jeff says Sting vs Booker won't happen tonight. "If you wanna be the man, you gotta beat the playa." I don't think that is how the saying goes. They brawl. Book does a side kick with his bad knee, which gives Jeff a chance to hit a chair shot. Jeff does the figure four in the ropes again. I don't understand how that is supposed to hurt worse. Terrorist Sting hits the ring. He takes the mask off and reveals that he's completely healed from his 3rd degree burns over 90% of his body with no scars at all. Jeff pulls Book's wife over the rail and hits her with the guitar. Why would he have her in the front row and not safely in the back or maybe at home?

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TO THE BACK. She's loaded into an ambulance. Sting says he'll take care of Jeff and tells Booker to go with his wife.

Buff Bagwell vs Big Vito

Judy comes out a bit after Buff. She's on color. I'm not sure if Buff's mama or Shelton's mama is more offensive. I mean, Shelton's mama was certainly more offensive from a racial stereotype standpoint. But she was also an actress playing a role and not his actual middle aged redneck mom who was overly involved in Buff's career behind the scenes. Buff is paranoid that anyone around the ring could be Kanyon in disguise. Even if Buff hadn't completely stunk up the joint on Raw, I really can't see how he could have fit in the WWF. Vito wins by sitting down on a sunset flip because Buff was distracted.

TO THE BACK. Cat is in his office when The Kwee Wee asks for a match against The Artist. He slaps Cat in the face with his dirty slipper. Cat laughs and Kwee Wee freaks out. Cat gives him the match. Paula is with Kanyon. His match with Buff is now a Judy Bagwell on a pole match. He wants her to be his Kim. She takes issue with the way he's been treating women. He tries to Kanyon Cut her. Mean Gene stops him and gets a Kanyon Cutter. But we don't get to see it as the camera man was bumped. So just the aftermath, sadly. Gene's totally going to hit that shit. Buff came to the back and saw what happened. He found Kanyon and did a double arm DDT on the floor. Sting is looking for Jeff in the back.

The Artist vs Kwee Wee

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Prince is dressed like the Brooklyn Brawler for some reason. Kwee Wee is very angry in the ring. For a wardrobe guy, Kwee Wee has terrible fashion sense. Salmon tights, purple knee pads, and orange boots. "This Kwee Wee is like a very angry, flamboyant Lou Thesz, for heaven's sake!" Prince is apparently trying to impress Paisley with his manliness by dressing up like a member of the Village People. Kwee Wee wins with a powerbomb flap jack thing.

TO THE BACK.
Scott Steiner and his YAK arrive. He's looking for Cat. He breaks into Cat's office and wants a match with Booker tonight or else. Kevin Nash has arrived. Norman walks in the door and hits on Midajah. Scott hits him with a pipe. Paula interviews MIA. A war on Canada starts tonight.

Lance Storm vs Lt. Loco WCW Cruiserweight Championship

The Hardcore Championship is now known as the Saskatchewan Hardcore International Title. And during his matches, WCW will be known as World Canadian Wrestling. That one doesn't even make sense. Chavo attacks during the anthem. Booker's wife is okay and he's making his way back to the arena. Jizzer and Lash are on color. Chavo hurts his leg doing a back flip off the top for no reason. Lance of course goes to work. Lance attempts a powerbomb, Chavo turns into a rana, and Lance turns that into the half crab to be the first triple champion in WCW history! Kevin Nash comes out. To challenge for the Cruiserweight Championship, I imagine. He tells Lance to hit the bricks. Lance bows up to him and gets booted in the face.

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Nash is still in the ring after a break. I love that a guy wins his 3rd title in 4 weeks and Nash shows up to knock him on his ass for no reason. "You know, there is a saying in professional wrestling when two guys exchange words and they say they work themselves into a SHOOT." What a way to start a promo. There was only one time in his 12 years that he wasn't a professional. It was when he was in the WWF and this Canadian decided it wasn't Nash's night because they were in his hometown of Montreal. The next night in Quebec City, he beat the guy's ass and pinned him in the middle. The Mountie? Football players are way gayer than basketball players. Nash was a bouncer and kicked a lot of drunk NFL players' asses. He's a fighter and he doesn't lose fights. He might not be professional at the PPV. He's never going to stop to get Scott Hall back in WCW. Scott Steiner comes out. They aren't waiting for the PPV and brawl.

TO THE BACK. Jeff Jarrett is heading to the ring. Nash tells Cat he's getting Steiner tonight. Cat gives him a straight jacket and says to have a straight jacket match. You put the opponent in the straight jacket and beat on him until you get tired.


Jeff Jarrett vs Sting

I'd like to know how Sting has no burns or scars. Even his hair is completely fine. How did he recover? Why aren't the announcers curious about that? Sting has a match against the Demon at the PPV. Why? They brawl around and up to the ramp and back. Jeff gets Sting caught up in the ropes and works over his leg around the ring post. Figure four in the ropes. I still don't get it. The figure four hurts the straight leg. Having a rope between the other leg won't add any kind of extra pressure. Jeff tries to grab a chair on the apron. Mickie Jay tries to stop him and Jeff mule kicks him in the dick. Why this wasn't a DQ, I don't know. Sting wins with a death drop on said chair.

TO THE BACK. Someone was taken out in an ambulance. Booker T has returned. Red Rooster is there to greet him. I guess Jeff was in the ambulance.

Kronik vs Muta/Vampiro vs Jindrak/O'Haire WCW Tag Team Championships

Perfect Event are on color. What was the point of the cage match last week if Kronik was just going to have to defend in a 3 way dance on Nitro? And against a team that wasn't even in that cage match. Muta and Vamp have had one match as a team. Obviously they aren't number one contenders to anything. How did they get into this match? They have matching face paint, at least. I kind of would like to see Muta in ICP paint.

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Muta had Crush in a knee bar. Wrath hits him with a chair. Vamp then hits Wrath with the chair. Jindrak hits a super frankensteiner on Vamp. He pins vamp and Crush pins Muta. Double pin. Who won? Kronik, I guess. The rookies aren't into this. Kronik hits them with the belts. Muta and Vamp mist Kronik.

TO THE BACK. Cat is in his office with Shane and Torrie. Cat books Shane vs Kidman in a Viagra on a pole match. Sting and Booker talk on a disgustingly ugly couch. Paula is with Jindrak and O'Haire. They're pissed!

Shane Douglas vs Billy Kidman Viagra on a Pole


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"If you get the bottle of viagra, you can use it on your opponent." Um. Does that mean the rule is you can rape your opponent? This is not the first Viagra on a pole match. Thesz, O'Connor, Baba, Inoki, and Johnny Ace have all been in them. Sweet stun gun from Shane. This is non stop dick jokes from Madden. Tony finally has to tell him to shut the fuck up. Shane hits the Plunge. He climbs up for the bottle. Kidman jumps up and powerbombs him. Unprettier on Shane. Kidman has the bottle, but Shane hit the Franchiser while Torrie had the ref distracted. The bottle exploded during the move somehow. And somehow Kidman's mouth was now full of the pills. What?

TO THE BACK.
Stacy and Gunns get ready for their hardcore match. Nash and Steiner prepare for their match. Ms Hancock and Gunns get into a fight in the shower. Is this the match?

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Ms. Hancock vs Major Gunns Hardcore match


They fight inter catering where they dump food and beverages on each other. CAKE TO THE FACE! But AWOL and David are fighting in the ring. The YAKS have made it to the ring. Stacy Irish whipped Gunns into a table in the corner. Body slam from Stacy! She wins.

TO THE BACK.
Booker and Sting are getting ready. The Nitro girls want Kidman to take them to his hotel room. Because he ate a bunch of viagra, you see. He's going to fuck them all. "Fans, if you have a heart condition, do NOT take that pill."

Scott Steiner vs Kevin Nash Straight Jacket match.

Steiner makes a reference to John Holmes and how nothing is finer than 69iner with Scott Steiner. On Thunder we'll get an in depth SHOOT interview with Vince Russo. This is pretty boring. Weakest chair shot ever from Midajah. He jackknifes her for it. Come on, Kev, she's like 4 feet tall. Rick Steiner comes out and gets booted. But a chair shot and Steiner recliner later, Nash is put in the straight jacket. They didn't even beat on him after putting him in the jacket.

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Sting vs Booker T WCW Championship

Sting has a hurt knee from his match earlier, Booker has had a bad knee for a few weeks. Sting gets the deathlock almost locked on, but Book got to the ropes. SuperSting splash was countered with Booker getting his knees up, which might have hurt Book worse. Ax kick, but Book can't get to Sting in time to make the pin. Double cross body. Sting rolls to the floor and arms pull him under the ring. Looked like it was the Demon. Sting now has raspberry jam on his forehead. Really awkward Booker roll up in the corner only gets two. DDT from Sting almost wins. Deathdrop is countered into a Book End for the win. Booker has defeated Goldberg and Sting in back to back weeks. Sting heads to the floor and pulls the Demon out from under the ring. Vamp and Muta come out. Vampiro for some reason had changed his face paint from earlier. Jeff Jarrett is back and coming out from the crowd. He ambushes Booker with a chair. Jeff strings Booker up by his knee and busts it with the guitar. Sting is placed in the Demon's coffin and it is set on fire.

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This was a show I guess. Judy Bagwell, Viagra on a pole, a Tennessee man with a lynch from the ceiling to string up a black man (by his foot, though, so it's cool), and Sting being place in a plastic coffin that was set on fire by a Gene Simmons impersonator. Sting is obviously immune to fire, idiots.
 
It was when he was in the WWF and this Canadian decided it wasn't Nash's night because they were in his hometown of Montreal. The next night in Quebec City, he beat the guy's ass and pinned him in the middle. The Mountie?

This was definitely Jacques Rougeau. He would never job in Montreal, ever. He even beat nWo Hogan once on a WCW house show in Montreal.

Nash said this because it was around this time WCW was bringing both Rougeau and Carl Oulette in to join up with Lance Storm. Rougeau immediately left because Nash was fucking with him.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Surprised no one ever did a 'shoot' on how Nash was always so concerned about his boyfriend Scott. I mean, I've never seen a man talk about another man in wrestling as much as Kevin talked about Scott.
 

strobogo

Banned
The thing about the Kidman/Shane feud is that Kidman is a total fucking creeper. Torrie broke up with him a month before Shane came into the picture. And it was because he was being a completely and total twat to everyone, including her. So a month and a half later, Torrie joins up with Shane in his feud with Buff. Not his feud with Kidman. She didn't leave him for Shane.

But Kidman can't handle this and starts trying to beat up Shane, even though he got dumped a month prior for unrelated reasons. Every fucking week he can't let this shit go and is getting physically involved with both Shane and Torrie. Then he decides that since she never asked for her keys back, it would be totally fine for him to go into her house while she's not there and go through her personal belongings. At least twice that was mentioned on screen. Once to get the sex tape that he and Torrie made, and against to steal the tape that she made with Shane. And then showing them on live, national television to embarrass her. He even brought out some of her underwear one week.

Kidman is a stalker. This is some straight up modern day WWE face behavior. Dude needs to get arrested and have a restraining order against him. Torrie was totally justified in dumping him when he was a heel and being a cock, but now that he's a face, she's awful and Kidman is in the right automatically. Oh hey, remember 2 months ago when Bischoff was having Torrie fuck Horace to get Horace to turn on Hulk, when Horace and Hulk were SWERVING everyone the whole time? And then they left WCW? Sounds like Horace was the big winner in that angle. Dude got to be a double agent, fuck Torrie, and sit out his contract while avoiding the terrible shit going on with the company. A true Hogan if I've ever seen one.


Surprised no one ever did a 'shoot' on how Nash was always so concerned about his boyfriend Scott. I mean, I've never seen a man talk about another man in wrestling as much as Kevin talked about Scott.

I'm positive Goldberg referred to them as boyfriends more than once on television in late 1998/early 1999 and again in late 1999. I think Sid did, too.
 

Pavaloo

Member
The problem is Lesnar was an athletic freak who had incredible potential when he was elevated to the main roster. Ryback is just a guy with an enhanced physique and little else, just like Big E. Ryblack is fitting, comparing him to Lesnar is a HUGE disservice to Lesnar

Big E is a powerlifting champion. I don't think it's a disservice
 

Aiii

So not worth it
If you see the ease with which Big E picks up people and compare that to Ryback. I don't see how you can't buy him as a legit beast really.

The only issue he has is his height, but that won't hinder him that much.
 
Lol, indy worker Steelhorse Vachon makes the mistake of wrestling stiff against Tommy Taylor and gets paid back in kind by his opponent (losing a tooth in the process), so he goes and get the cops involved after the match and inadvertently coins a new piece of wrestling terminology;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQi3_4OcuCo

"Steelhorsing - The act, specific to professional wrestling, of involving police presence to settle internal disputes or actions that take place within the context of a match"

3:59 is when Tommy has had enough and just socks the dude.
 
Lol, indy worker Steelhorse Vachon makes the mistake of wrestling stiff against Tommy Taylor and gets paid back in kind by his opponent (losing a tooth in the process), so he goes and get the cops involved after the match and inadvertently coins a new piece of wrestling terminology;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQi3_4OcuCo

"Steelhorsing - The act, specific to professional wrestling, of involving police presence to settle internal disputes or actions that take place within the context of a match"

3:59 is when Tommy has had enough and just socks the dude.

This shit was incredible. I worked a show today with a bunch of the guys who were at this show (sorry Chriswok). It was fucking hilarious. EVERYONE was talking about this shit.

What's even better? This clown is a student of THE DUDLEY BOYS in Florida. He was one of the guys in Aces & 8's. I talked to the promoter last night when I saw details of this emerging on my Facebook. He said Devon was informed immediately and was fucking PISSED. I can only imagine Bubba's reaction.

This was taken backstage at our show:

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Big E is a powerlifting champion. I don't think it's a disservice

Lesnar was the perfect mix of size, strength, speed, and athleticism. As far as a physical wrestling specimen, you couldn't really ask for much more. Big E can lift heavy stuff.......great. Mark Henry set world records and it still took him well over a decade to be anything worth a crap because he was very one dimensional. Powerlifting isn't a great base to be a good professional wrestler, amateur wrestling is.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
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Damn it why is Cena so gif worthy?!
Someone should make one out of the ending for this years Royal Rumble Promo.

Because Cena is exactly the right amount of douchebaggery for expert giffing.

Lets face it, you can tell by the way he smirks he's just pretending to be the ultimate nice guy. Which is probably also why only kids and (some) women like the guy, they fall for that shit.
 

Mr. Sam

Member
Lets face it, you can tell by the way he smirks he's just pretending to be the ultimate nice guy. Which is probably also why only kids and (some) women like the guy, they fall for that shit.

Poor women and their feeble minds! No man would fail to recognise the demonic eyes of a man who grants the wishes of sick children.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Poor women and their feeble minds! No man would fail to recognise the demonic eyes of a man who grants the wishes of sick children.

I respectfully disagree with your opinion. There are plenty of men that no doubt have a crush on Cena, there's also a reason I said "some women" instead of just women.

Also, wish granting says very little about his person backstage, I've no doubt Cena will discard any and all other wrestlers for his own benefit. Cena is in this for Cena and Cena alone, I doubt he ever really clashed with Vince over one of his Superman bookings because it would hurt the new up-and-comer he was facing.
 

Mr. Sam

Member
John Cena is a smirking douchebag because of the baseless conjecture you just imagined up. Not only does he stop other people's pushes, he strangles kittens and smuggles cocaine across the border. You can tell because he smiles on camera.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
I'm sorry my opinion offends you, don't really see where I'm implying he's a murderer, drug smuggler, monster or whatever, but hey, whatever makes you happy mate.

Fact remains that for all the "good guy" act we see on TV and in his booking, John Cena hasn't put a single wrestler over for several years and we have seen quite a few examples of peoples pushes being buried after being in a Cena program. But hey, he grants tons of wishes, so what a stand-up wrestler!
 

strobogo

Banned
I wouldn't go so far as to say that Cena is a bad human, but he's clearly not like the character he portrays off screen. That's normally not a problem at all in pro wrestling, except WWE insists that there is no difference between John Cena the man and John Cena the wrestler. Because of that, he often comes off totally phoney instead of a guy playing up his gimmick. I think it is fairly unique to him.


Also, I think Soul's occasional side gimmick of "she sucked him off" is more unsettling and weird than his obsessed Kane fan gimmick. I can never tell how much of that one is just joking around. Even if it is, it is the kind of joking around that makes people uncomfortably shoot looks at each other and hope someone changes the subject.
 

Striker

Member
The Ryder mess was because of the booking afterwards. I thought they could've done something with Eve/Ryder, but they went the opposite direction.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
The problem with Cena is you never see him pull something like Jericho would, where he gives a young guy a shot by putting him over clean. Even Orton does that, and his reputation is the exact opposite of what Cena's supposed to be.

Hell, look at what he's doing in this program with Ziggler. He gave him a non-clean, but very important victory at TLC and then he is in two consecutive Raw matches where he overcomes 10 finishers that seemingly did nothing to hurt him and then puts Ziggler away with just one finishing move. That completely buries Ziggler as a weakling. It's not that it's bad he's losing it's the way he's putting his opponent away. You can't tell me John Cena doesn't have the political pull to tell the bookers to book him better or that he isn't in charge of his in-ring actions. Even if Ziggler were to now get a win over Cena, he will never be considered on the same level as him. It's a damn shame, because it would make everything about Cena better if he looked more like a normal human being.
 
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