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[Ithil]

Posted in the Rumble thread, but on the topic of quitting:

The thing is, the likes of Rock/Cena II so Cena can have the biggest win on the biggest stage so he can...be Cena some more is the kind of thing that would legitimately make me stop watching.

I won't stop watching because people I am attached to and whose careers I want to follow are in WWE, that being the likes of Daniel Bryan (I will not be happy until he is given the WWE title, no one in the company deserves it more), Antonio Cesaro, Dolph Ziggler and AJ Lee, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Wade Barrett, all the terrific guys in NXT, and even guys like Alberto Del Rio have me invested now.

I quit watching for five years, from 2005 to 2010. That was because no one was really drawing me to the program, I was bored of it, so I let it go and vaguely kept up with major events and watched a Rumble here and there, and some WM. I looked back in at the start of 2011, but what got me truly hooked was CM Punk's Summer of Punk II. It sure as shit wasn't John Cena!

This endless push of Cena is actually suffocating for the product. They have all these great guys that I want to follow, but this shadow of Cena kills the potential love for the product I could have. It's a real bind.

 

[Carnby]

Hi everybody.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

If Rock brings back the real belt this is all worth it

 

[Kyoufu]

I quit.

No more WWE for me. See you guys. I love all of you.





















PM me if Austin returns to fight Punk.

 

[Ithil]

Would you rather have Cena end Punk's reign?

I'd rather someone who would benefit from it ended it. Rock being champ doesn't need to happen for WM.

 

[Professor Beef]

If Rock brings back the real belt this is all worth it

GAF will immediately switch allegiances, and it will be absolutely hilarious.

 

[billy beane]

Of course they haven't, I mean, just look at Kane.

I mean, seriously.

Speaking of Kane, what was your reaction when Kane started talking about his big penis?

 

[Keyser Soze]

 

[Dave Meltzer]

GAF will immediately switch allegiances, and it will be absolutely hilarious.

Just wait till the Raw after WM when the Spinner returns. 15 people will tap out nd stop watching the product

Spoiler

for a week

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Hi everybody.

bahahjahahahah I love that avatar

Also people, don't quit wrestling. There's a lot of alternatives. Don't be afraid to venture beyond what Vince feeds you.

 

[slightconfuse]

 

[SoulPlaya]

Speaking of Kane, what was your reaction when Kane started talking about his big penis?

I'm just glad he made it official.

Wait, not glad, I mean, you know. I mean, we all knew it, right? 36 inches and all, right?

Look . . . . . . . . . I'm just saying.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

If Rock brings back the real belt this is all worth it

The best outcome would be unifying the belts and binning the WWE title.

If it is just a new WWE belt, however, I wouldn't mind a new one so long as it was a bit understated.

 

[Sokantish]

We're officially on the road to wrestlemania guys!

 

[FallingEdge]

I'm just glad he made it official.

Wait, not glad, I mean, you know. I mean, we all knew it, right? 36 inches and all, right?

Look . . . . . . . . . I'm just saying.

Kane has no penis.

It was burned in a fire according to Torrie.

 

[Kaladin]

I'm just glad he made it official.

Wait, not glad, I mean, you know. I mean, we all knew it, right? 36 inches and all, right?

Look . . . . . . . . . I'm just saying.

I thought it was burned in a fire.

 

[slightconfuse]

some detox coming up

chikara season 12

 

[Ithil]

Jericho was great tonight, he went 45 minutes in the Rumble at full speed.

 

[SoulPlaya]

Kane has no penis.

It was burned in a fire according to Torrie.

It grew back. Kane is like Piccolo.

He can also make his body extend. Like Piccolo.

 

[somedevil]

Posted in the Rumble thread, but on the topic of quitting:

The thing is, the likes of Rock/Cena II so Cena can have the biggest win on the biggest stage so he can...be Cena some more is the kind of thing that would legitimately make me stop watching.

I won't stop watching because people I am attached to and whose careers I want to follow are in WWE, that being the likes of Daniel Bryan (I will not be happy until he is given the WWE title, no one in the company deserves it more), Antonio Cesaro, Dolph Ziggler and AJ Lee, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Wade Barrett, all the terrific guys in NXT, and even guys like Alberto Del Rio have me invested now.

I quit watching for five years, from 2005 to 2010. That was because no one was really drawing me to the program, I was bored of it, so I let it go and vaguely kept up with major events and watched a Rumble here and there, and some WM. I looked back in at the start of 2011, but what got me truly hooked was CM Punk's Summer of Punk II. It sure as shit wasn't John Cena!

This endless push of Cena is actually suffocating for the product. They have all these great guys that I want to follow, but this shadow of Cena kills the potential love for the product I could have. It's a real bind.

Agree Cena is the main problem with the product right now. It seems like Triple H is building good talent again after them being thin for a good time. The problem is for them to truly blossom they need Cena to stop hogging it all. He is the modern day Hogan.

 

[Jitters]

Yeah, Rock could have just won clean. As it is Punk gets a reason to act outraged. That's why it happened.

Exactly.

 

[billy beane]

Was tonight just a surprise return for Jericho, or is he back on the roster for a couple of months? He was in there quite a while for just a one night return.

 

[sf2fanatic]

I posted this in the rumble thread

http://youtu.be/7IkX0tzNeak


guy's recap to the rumble...lol

 

[Kyoufu]

Agree Cena is the main problem with the product right now. It seems like Triple H is building good talent again after them being thin for a good time. The problem is for them to truly blossom they need Cena to stop hogging it all. He is the modern day Hogan.

We've been saying this for how many years now?

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Here ya go PhoenixAzure:

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Jericho was great tonight, he went 45 minutes in the Rumble at full speed.

Yeah, so impressed. Dude is a complete natural.

 

[Kyoufu]

Yeah, Rock could have just won clean. As it is Punk gets a reason to act outraged. That's why it happened.

You do realise nobody gives a shit about Punk now right? They killed the feud by having him lose to The Part-Timer's Elbow.

 

[Jitters]

I posted this in the rumble thread

http://youtu.be/7IkX0tzNeak


guy's recap to the rumble...lol

Good god, which one of you is that?

You do realise nobody gives a shit about Punk now right? They killed the feud by having him lose to The Part-Timer's Elbow.

How the hell do you get that?! That match is just going to get him more over if anything.

 

[Raw64life]

Enjoyable PPV, except for of course......

....god WrestleMania is going to suck.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

The best outcome would be unifying the belts and binning the WWE title.

If it is just a new WWE belt, however, I wouldn't mind a new one so long as it was a bit understated.

I'd rather they unify under a classic WWE design.

Big gold belt ain't Vinnie's creation and thus is clearly inferior

 

[Kaladin]

Ryback kind of got Lesnared tonight. Super huge push....even surviving matches with Punk, but once he faces Cena he is barely competition.

I would actually like to see a Ryback vs Cena match in a year's time or so though.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

You do realise nobody gives a shit about Punk now right? They killed the feud by having him lose to The Part-Timer's Elbow.

This is absurd. He got cheered over the fucking Rock for most he match and lost to a move that has won countless belts.

 

[worldrunover]

Punk has proof it wasn't the Shield who attacked Rock. Decision has to be reversed tomorrow.

Believe.

 

[Kyoufu]

How the hell do you get that?! That match is just going to get him more over if anything.

I want to know how you came to that conclusion.

When was the last time he had a clean win in a title match?

 

[Deleted member 47027]

You do realise nobody gives a shit about Punk now right? They killed the feud by having him lose to The Part-Timer's Elbow.

Well, their excitement level is at the same as when he held the championship for a year. So...not that much.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

Yeah, Rock could have just won clean. As it is Punk gets a reason to act outraged. That's why it happened.

Rock winning clean with a great knock down drag out mess of a match would've been 100x better than the anticlimactic nonsense we got. Not feeling it at all. I'd honestly rather The Shield stipulation NEVER being there, them interfering, Orton & Friends saving the match, everything gets destroyed, back to Rock/Punk and let it finish with a huge Rock Bottom.

Just....yuck @ that PPV.

 

[Kyoufu]

This is absurd. He got cheered over the fucking Rock for most he match and lost to a move that has won countless belts.

Punk lost to a Hollywood star.

It didn't hurt Cena but it hurts Punk's legitimacy as a champion. 430 days or so of being the "Best in the World" except Rock comes in and buries him.

Yeah. Fuck this company.

 

[SoulPlaya]

You know what? WM should just be 5 hours of Kane sitting in the ring talking about his penis. Occasionally, show AJ in the back nodding her head and taking notes.

You want to draw in casuals? That'll do it!

 

[Professor Beef]

Ryback kind of got Lesnared tonight. Super huge push....even surviving matches with Punk, but once he faces Cena he is barely competition.

It was only a Rumble meeting, and for a few minutes at that. It doesn't really mean anything. It's on par with Maven/Undertaker in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Jitters]

I want to know how you came to that conclusion.

When was the last time he had a clean win in a title match?

HE IS A HEEL!

When did NWO Hogan win a match cleanly? Flair,HHH,Piper, whoever.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Rock winning clean with a great knock down drag out mess of a match would've been 100x better than the anticlimactic nonsense we got. Not feeling it at all. I'd honestly rather The Shield stipulation NEVER being there, them interfering, Orton & Friends saving the match, everything gets destroyed, back to Rock/Punk and let it finish with a huge Rock Bottom.

Just....yuck @ that PPV.

Well that's fine, but the reason it happened was to give Punk's character to maintain his dignity and not admit he lost to the better man. It's fairly obvious. This way Rock won clean without the heel having to admit weakness.

 

[billy beane]

I'd rather they unify under a classic WWE design.

Big gold belt ain't Vinnie's creation and thus is clearly inferior

The only reason I could see WWE keeping the Big Gold Belt is because it is arguably the most recognizable championship in wrestling. I mean how many times have you seen pro athletes with the belt?

 

[Kyoufu]

HE IS A HEEL!

When did NWO Hogan win a match cleanly? Flair,HHH,Piper, whoever.

You're talking about Hogan, who had a decade of clean wins. It was fucking Hogan.

How can you compare them?

 

[Professor Beef]

Punk lost to a Hollywood star.

It didn't hurt Cena but it hurts Punk's legitimacy as a champion. 430 days or so of being the "Best in the World" except Rock comes in and buries him.

Yeah. Fuck this company.

This, gentlemen, is called "overreacting."

 

[Kaladin]

It was only a Rumble meeting, and for a few minutes at that. It doesn't really mean anything. It's on par with Maven/Undertaker in the grand scheme of things.

It's a program we'll be seeing sometime this year....probably Summerslam time.

 

[Dave Meltzer]

Punk lost to a Hollywood star.

It didn't hurt Cena but it hurts Punk's legitimacy as a champion. 430 days or so of being the "Best in the World" except Rock comes in and buries him.

Yeah. Fuck this company.

The a rock is an 8 time champion and was the face of the company for forever. You are being ridiculous acting like losing to him is something that is going to hurt Punk. Him losing to ANYBODY else would be worse. Stop being a mark who thinks results matter.

 

[Professor Beef]

It's a program we'll be seeing sometime this year....probably Summerslam time.

Possibly. But you can't really take their RR meeting into consideration. They were the last two, and Cena fumbled Ryback over the top rope. That's hardly decisive of anything regarding who would beat who in an actual match.

 

[mrboo001]

Posted in the Rumble thread, but on the topic of quitting:

The thing is, the likes of Rock/Cena II so Cena can have the biggest win on the biggest stage so he can...be Cena some more is the kind of thing that would legitimately make me stop watching.

I won't stop watching because people I am attached to and whose careers I want to follow are in WWE, that being the likes of Daniel Bryan (I will not be happy until he is given the WWE title, no one in the company deserves it more), Antonio Cesaro, Dolph Ziggler and AJ Lee, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Wade Barrett, all the terrific guys in NXT, and even guys like Alberto Del Rio have me invested now.

I quit watching for five years, from 2005 to 2010. That was because no one was really drawing me to the program, I was bored of it, so I let it go and vaguely kept up with major events and watched a Rumble here and there, and some WM. I looked back in at the start of 2011, but what got me truly hooked was CM Punk's Summer of Punk II. It sure as shit wasn't John Cena!

This endless push of Cena is actually suffocating for the product. They have all these great guys that I want to follow, but this shadow of Cena kills the potential love for the product I could have. It's a real bind.

I'm in the same boat. I only started watching since 2012 Rumble (seen 2011's then dropped off again. Missed summer of punk ) and I can see the Post Cena/Vince future and it is wonderful.... sadly it will take another 5-10 years to get there...

Last PPV until after Westlremania or I get a job (finished my degree in December )

 

[Kaladin]

Is this a girl or a little boy on TSN?

 

[Jitters]

You think if it were around in the day, wrasslegaf would bitch as much when Hogan won everything as much as they do when Cena wins?