They have talent, but do they have the ability build for such match in order to take total advantage of their amazing roster?
That's why I think a 5 star match is not going to happen for the WWE anytime soon.
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They have talent, but do they have the ability build for such match in order to take total advantage of their amazing roster?
That's why I think a 5 star match is not going to happen for the WWE anytime soon.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
I've already told you. AJ vs Miz title for title as the main event.
excelsiorlef
Member
It's not can't. It's won't.
You said can't. They can they just won't do what needs to be done to put one on.
This is where Big Dave's real hypocrisy lies. He'll give 5 stars to pure technical matches in Japan that occur in the middle of round robin tournaments but doesn't give the same respect to similar matches in the middle of bad feuds in western promotions because the build holds it back.
Well that sucks. Sorry to hear.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
So with Smackdown having MITB I'm about 90% sure Corbin's getting the briefcase.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Cody
none of those other guys took a spot that could have gone to a sanada/ishii match or something
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
WK11 is the only NJPW show I've watched, but I'm going with Bullet Club in general based on that.
It's true.
Cody for his shit facial expressions and over acting.
I didn't say can't though, I just said I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon haha
It really does. I don't think it's going to get worse than that though. At least I hope it doesn't.
Damn, that's a good point.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Probably Rex. Cody's been doing a bad job at making WWE regret not pushing him but holy shit, Sandow has taken it to another level.
Some random thrown together PWG 6 man with no build whatsoever and just a bunch of spots to impress grandpa dave got 5 stars
WWE can easily do that
Different cameras that aren't moving around like fucking crazy.
I love the angle down the ramp and it comes across like they aren't ashamed of wrestling.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
So was AJ when he was with them.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's not like Chris Hero wasn't booked all of the time on the independent scene.
There it is.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Most of that is the older music from before they thought about broadcasting outside of Japan (90% of WK's unbroadcastable songs were for the older guys in the battle royale).
I'd hope any themes from now on they commission, they make sure they get international clearance for, because it does give off a somewhat unprofessional feeling.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Cody being in the Bullet Club only makes it more obvious how devoid of character he is
You'd think being an ex-WWE guy from wrasslin' royalty would be a pretty easy point to jump off from. Instead he just goes out and waves a gun around constantly like he's a badass
For all intents and purposes you have nothing to do with that group and you're contributing nothing. Great job
You'd think being an ex-WWE guy from wrasslin' royalty would be a pretty easy point to jump off from. Instead he just goes out and waves a gun around constantly like he's a badass
For all intents and purposes you have nothing to do with that group and you're contributing nothing. Great job
excelsiorlef
Member
when was this
Around when Devitt was still in was when BC had the most hype.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
I saw a young lion on New Years Dash doing a boston crab who had x10 the charisma of cody
Roland_Gunner
Member
Its been over four years and Bullet Club merch still sells. Its amazing they aren't GBH levels of relevance by now.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Bullet Club loved NWO so much, they've aped the era where they have different "levels" of NWO and a load of dead wood nobody cares about
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It's not actually an easy point because Cody is generic and average in the ring. He just has a high opinion of himself. Like, who else but Cody Rhodes thinks the WWE missed the boat on Cody Rhodes?
It's really poetic in a way.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Is that not the point? You're supposed to find them annoying, hate them and want to see them lose. That was my impression seeing them for the first time at WK11. I mean they were really fucking annoying and I wanted them to lose.
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of those kinds of matches from the G1. For one, there is the overall story of the points involved in the tournament. The story going into Omega/Naito which got 5 stars was that Naito just needed to have a draw in the match and he'd go on to the finals. Omega was desperate for a win and needed it to make it to the finals. The match was built around that. Ishii/Okada was built around Okada being a cocky son of a bitch and Ishii having none of it. I'm simplifying it but you are implying that there is little to no story in these "pure technical matches" but that is incredibly far from the truth.
And it's very hard for me to think of matches that should have gotten 5 stars if it was the same match just with a better build.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Well yeah, he's only further proving that. I meant you'd think it'd be a good jumping off point for someone who was as good as he thinks he is
True, but some see it as going pretty close to X-Pac Heat territory.
Yeah I thought the same. It was my first time seeing them as well.
Zayn vs Nakamura?
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I think a lack of story might be the main thing that kept Sami vs Nak from being five stars.
I'm not talking about Meltzer's rating though. I really don't care about that and honestly don't follow him at all.
I'm talking about how good the match and how high the stakes were to me. The angle of a litteral outsider rising within the ranks of an outsider stable inside of a prideful Japanese organization saying he'd make things better, global and such was EXTREMELY effective as a match building angle to me. It wasn't particular good booking or anything like that, it was just a very hot angle that happened, and, in the end, both man delivered well beyond expectation.
The WWE doesn't have that right now and in order to make me as invested would require a very interesting storyline.
Now talking about wrestling exclusively, I don't remember being that impressed with a WWE match since when I was a kid watching WMX7.
Nocturnowl
Member
Young Bucks go beyond being so annoying that I want to see them lose, they just make me not want to see them full stop.
31 was solid, throw 27 in there instead.
She's getting the Brodus Clay redebut, it's being pushed back so much when she finally arrives it'll be because she was arriving from PLANET FUNK.
STRO? Man
31 was solid, throw 27 in there instead.
True but the bucks venture into making me tell somebody "Hold my beer".
The English commentary for the Yujiro Takahashi entrance is downright creepy and they film the women exactly how Vince would.
I don't want to see them lose. I don't want to see them at all. I skip their shit and they distract from matches when they're outside of the ring.