FlammableD
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January Wrasslin' |OT| Big Month John
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Vince literally runs casual fans off any chance he gets. So many heinous go-home RAWs, awful shows right after Mania, and wasted old timer appearances.
Goldberg is the only recent one they didn't 100 percent fuck up.
BewareTheBatsie
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That's true , although I'm talking mostly about the in ring quality, Seth has been boring me since his comeback. Unless he's saving all of this for Triple H it might be a bit bad for all the build up it's getting with Triple H's not-so anticipated comeback.
I mean I'm surprised they weren't already in an endless Twitter war.
Dark Ninja
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Bret has always been right about everything.
This must be the footage Flair showed Miz when he was teaching him the figure four.
SallyIsNow
Banned
He should done the J.O.B.
It warms my cockles that Bret is basically a smark diety, he was my god damn hero as a kid.
We'd have never gotten Austin/McMahon if he did.
that's always a BS argument tho because we don't know what we could've had
BewareTheBatsie
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slightconfuse
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Fox your email is read on this week's lapsed fan .
It's the first one
It's the first one
vs Marufuji Super J Cup Finals
vs Taguchi Invasion Attack 2014
vs Ibushi WK8
vs Gedo Kizuna Road 2013
vs Okada Kizuna Road 2013
vs Tanahashi G1 23
Those should be up on NJPWWorld! As a bonus but I'm not sure if it's up there you should definitely check out Alex Shelley/Chris Sabin vs. Devitt/Taguchi, can't remember what show its on but on my Devitt watch I loved it and it's very highly regarded.
SallyIsNow
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I'm okay with that
Brian_FETO
Banned
Austin/McMahon is why you have the Authority though
That's the second one at least he's had read now. Just downloaded the episode, will give it a listen today and tomorrow most likely.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
It took me a second to see he's fighting Roman lolFor science
Yes we would have. Everyone forgets they were starting to set up Austin/McMahon before Bret left the company.
slightconfuse
Banned
Fox is a shooter and trains at a Billy Robinson school that does AWA style training camps
BewareTheBatsie
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They want AJ fighting Shane O'Mac because AJ would bump like a motherfucker for Shane's punches.
avengers23
Banned
What about KISS Demon King?
It at least took them a few weeks to fumble the Bayley ball. The balor ball was dropped the first night lol
If HHH wasn't in the picture I think I'd actually love to see Bret involved with the company in some way. I think he'd be the type of guy who wouldn't be afraid to call out what he thinks are bad Vince ideas. Unfortunately he'd clash with HHH too much too.
Dark Ninja
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Bret SHOULD be a scumbag growing up in the wrestling business but he's a damn saint compared to everyone who came out of that era.
i mean Cornette told Jim to kill himself so
Sanity isn't a great example, given it's all indie wrestlers (now that Big Damo has replaced Sawyer Fulton) under Eric Young.
The women in NXT are a better example, they're progressing very slowly. Liv Morgan and co are super green but have been on TV a while, and it's going to take a lot more time for them to get good. It's very clear that in building the PC with the intention of training up promising athletes and attractive people, WWE massively underestimated how long each would take to train to be good. Their idea was "hire 100 people, find a dozen stars among them", like people just become great wrestlers in a year or two without ever travelling the world for multiple promotions.
You have prodigies like Chad Gable who were excellent in the ring almost instantly (and that's not just from his amateur wrestling, they have tons of amateur wrestlers scouted by Gerald Brisco, Gable was special in how well he adapted), but everyone else is either super green, or adequate but not special. There's some like Enzo who aren't good wrestlers but get by on lots of charisma.
Given how much higher the standards of wrestling are in WWE now, I don't know if the PC will ever be that superstar making factory they envisioned. It'll always be the "polish the indie recruits" facility.
Of course he would call out bad ideas. And I don't think Vince or Triple could handle it. They'd "how's your territory doing?" Bret to try to undermine his criticisms.
He also has dealt with more wrestling-associated hardship than most. He's somehow still lovably cranky from what I've seen, which is amazing. People who do not like him are sad forever-alones.
31GhostsIV
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How about putting one of the best wrestlers in the world in a match with the potential to be a classic? Get Nak or Joe up ffs. I bet AJ loses as well because reasons.
Oh.. I forgot. AJ is the best at wrestling, but Shane is better at entertainment.
I think Vince would handle it a lot better than HHH could, honestly.
People are completely missing the point about a Balor v Taker match at Mania.
A) If there is any justice, Taker will pass the torch to Balor. Brock sure as fuck did not deserve it, Balor has a hell of a future.
B) If they want they can go heel with the Club involved.
But A is so much more important than B.
I think Finn could carry Taker to his best match in a long time.
Buh buh Demon doesn't do anything special.
Neither does Taker.
Maybe the "Hold my hand so I can walk the rope"?
Roll my eyes back and stick my tongue out?
Don't be a mark.
A) If there is any justice, Taker will pass the torch to Balor. Brock sure as fuck did not deserve it, Balor has a hell of a future.
B) If they want they can go heel with the Club involved.
But A is so much more important than B.
I think Finn could carry Taker to his best match in a long time.
Buh buh Demon doesn't do anything special.
Neither does Taker.
Maybe the "Hold my hand so I can walk the rope"?
Roll my eyes back and stick my tongue out?
Don't be a mark.
Bret would have way too much trouble fitting into the modern WWE corporate structure. Haitch groomed himself for it for the past 20 years. He is a master bullshitter, and it's served him perfectly for where he is now.
Not sure Bret would have made the ultimate sacrifice like HHH and marry Steph.
Jk, those two do seem like a legitimately happy couple
BewareTheBatsie
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Wait, I mean
I'll admit that I laughed.
I think they could have a good match but not in the way that it would be Finn carrying Taker to it. Or Taker carrying Finn to it. Just two people equally having a good match.
Good points well made.
Crazy to think a multi-million dollar facility can't compete with some ratty ass school gym on weekends.
No matter what you think of Taker he is still a huge draw and their only mass appeal star outside of Brock.
BewareTheBatsie
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In the PC I wonder if the issue is they don't keep them down there long enough. Half the time it's like they teach them the basics, and a few fancy moves before shipping them down to their NXT debuts.
SallyIsNow
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If it does happen, I hope Taker buries that vanilla midget.
Braun is a glaring example of this.
Dark Ninja
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BewareTheBatsie
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What I'll agree on is that it was CLEARLY A SHOOT! /s
Braun is quite good though.
And they don't even teach them cool fancy moves
Is he though, really? Does he really sell people on watching Mania? Because I haven't been interested in his matches for years. And even the last one that had me mildly interested, was because of Brock, not Taker.
I very much doubt he has as much drawing power as you are imagining. He is a nostalgia pop, nothing more.
