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January Wrasslin' |OT| Big Month John
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giancarlo123x
Banned
Why would you want it to be a mess? Maybe we can get another aj situation, twice in a lifetime!
BronsonLee
Member
CelebVM is goddamn worthless
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Because buying up every 30+ year old indy darling talent doesn't do anything to actually help the product. It's throwing money at a problem and hoping it works. For as great as AJ has been he's still not going to be your Cena or Austin and the overall product is still pretty bland.
Bluekaveli
Member
You know something, I still think that's it's weird luck that Ellie would marry someone with the last name Neidhart.
So her name is Ellie Hart Neidhart
So her name is Ellie Hart Neidhart
They've shown over the last 15 years that they have zero desire to improve their writing or storylines.
Thry rode on LolCenaWins for 12 years and now people are bored.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
But that's more to my point. Now, they're trying to fix it by just singing guys and throwing money around but it has done dick in fixing the overall product. Sure we've gotten some gems in Styles, Owens, Zayn, Rollins and whoever else but how many of them have ascended to a point of them actually being able to take the company on their shoulders?
Maybe they'll all leave for Data West's India-based wrestling start-up.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
This. When I look at those guys, I don't see people that creative has done many favors. Especially Zayn. Styles, Jericho, Owens, and New Day either have the one good writer on staff, or have been allowed to get over on their terms, which is what i've assumed has happened. I really don't get why they can't give everyone a chance to define their own characters. If its clearly not working then give them writers.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Speaking of which, any chance we see Nakamura get bumped to main before Wrestlemania?
He and AJ need to be main eventing Mania imho
He and AJ need to be main eventing Mania imho
Styles is the one working out in spite of the booking.
Lightning Count
Member
Really hoping Omega will stay in NJPW. WWE would not use him to his full potential and probably job him out to Reigns or Rollins then end up in the mid card.
That said I will say AJ vs Omega or even Omega vs Miz would be an insane feud that would deliver.
That said I will say AJ vs Omega or even Omega vs Miz would be an insane feud that would deliver.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
I'm thinking 0. That match happening at Mania with 0 build would be silly, but we all know it would just be AJ vs Nak every week for the 10 weeks leading into Mania.
This is true and I know I'm being very negative, I just don't think throwing money at every Indy darling is the answer.
Uno Venova
Banned
It'd be nice if guys could just be successful in the indies without being caught by the WWE tornado but such is life.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Is Rollins really working though? He's cooled off since he came cause they didn't turn him babyface when they had the chance.
Rockandrollclown
lookwhatyou'vedone
The product is shit, but the indy darlings they have thrown money at are the only reasons I watch current WWE. Miz/Jericho/New Day are the only exceptions. So yeah its bad now, but it would be dire without them.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Good points. It really needs a build of epic proportions imo.
It's not but they have little options right now and it's their own fault. Their stars of the mid to late 00's are all but gone, who's left, Cena, Orton, and Jericho who all are part-time themselves? Just try to imagine who will be in these spots in five years from now.
No, he and Zayn should be the hottest babyfaces in years but they are not.
Lightning Count
Member
Much as I would love this, I doubt very much current WWE would book a guy with very limited English speaking into the main event spot of WrestleMania.
HazySaiyan
Banned
I get why people want every wrestler they like to go to WWE because you want them to get more money and exposure, but instead of that why don't you actually support these guys by watching them and spreading the word so they don't have to? And y'know, don't pirate all the shows.
NJPW are looking to expand in 2017, so why don't you help them along so top guys like Omega and Okada can make real money.
NJPW are looking to expand in 2017, so why don't you help them along so top guys like Omega and Okada can make real money.
Exactly, they've completely shit the bed.
Zayn and Rollins still have fans despite being given some of the shittiest booking in ages
Remember when Triple H beat Booker T at WM19 because HHH is white?
Lightning Count
Member
Remember when HHH beat Sting so he could the flog the dead horse that is WCW one last time, in the process denying us of the match we all really wanted to see - The Undertaker vs Sting.
They're always going to have fans no matter what WWE does but they are no where near the level of baby face they should be at
HashtagLapsed
Member
It is frustrating Omega/Okada stolen upload on YT already has 60,000+ views. Likely because the link was spread on reddit etc. Barely any of the cunts who watched that video will actually sub and support the people killing themselves in these matches either.
It may be that any exposure is good exposure, but it is still a bit aggaravating.
As far as Zayn goes. Look how over he was at Dallas this year on NXT. Now he is jobbing in a SHIT angle against some green guy Vince is impressed with because he was born tall.
Are you talking about the Sting story? Because everyone who paid attention to the story knew Sting should have won that.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Remember when HHH won the Rumble and a world title for no reason
Fuck Ric Flair's security guard HHH
Fuck Ric Flair's security guard HHH
HazySaiyan
Banned
Yeah I mean come on its like $8 a month, surely you can spare that for these guys that are damn near killing themselves for your entertainment?
giancarlo123x
Banned
Better than Roman overcoming the odds and winning.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
That happened anyway at the Mania HHH main evented because of the Rumble/title win because fuck HHH
The only thing that match did was make people believe HHH could repair the damage done to Reigns. Nothing more.
HHH winning the Rumble/Title was good because #AnyoneButRoman and honestly nobody else looked like a credible champion at the time. HHH's brief title run after that was kind of neat. HHH putting on a fucking shit stain of a main event with Roman was not good. Plus they ran head first into the same issue that happened after the Daniel Bryan storyline - HHH was defeated and the Authority should have vanished but once again they dont fucking go away.
whatevermort
Member
I think Zayn's going to have a bit of an uptick when he finally manages to defeat Braun. Assuming neither of them wins the rumble (!), I'm guessing Zayn eliminates Braun - and then we can have their final match at Mania. If they're gutsy? Give them an Iron Man match, something like that. 30 mins, most falls. Something definitive and brutal that lets them both play to their strengths. Honestly, could make stars of both of them.
And then you have Jimmy Hart and Bret Hart in the same promotion at the same time
HashtagLapsed
Member
It is something that really pisses me off. A lot of the guys on that card either shaved years off their life or will be in a lot of pain for a lot of their later years and what. It is great news that NJPW World got 10K new subscribers. 6 times that amount pirated the main event. Maybe that will lead to greater exposure and make them more money, nobody knows but for now it really shits me.
BronsonLee
Member
I watched WK on Youtube because it works on my Apple TV
when you grow up watching wwe, dreaming of wwe, being sold the wwe wrestlemania dream, train your ass off in wrestling school, bump you ass off for years in gyms in front of 50 people for $100 a match...
then WWE offers you a chance to wrestle on tv, in front of thousands for 6 figures a year
it's unfortunate that there's no real competition out there for them.
1. Braun can't work a 30 mins match
2. Braun vs Roman is the WM match probably, Zayn will end up in a multi man ladder match.
FlammableD
Banned
So I'm looking up horror movies on Amazon to add to my collection and Mean Girls shows up as a suggested purchase
I mean get it anyway cause it's fucking great
It did immediately go into my cart, but it seemed so incredibly out of place.