The funny thing about this post is that you can say the exact same thing 10 years ago and have it still be true.
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The funny thing about this post is that you can say the exact same thing 10 years ago and have it still be true.
Okay, thanks. For some strange reason I thought it meant that the outcome of a match could change during the duration depending on the wrestlers.
So like the Usos/Dudleyz/Dragons vs The New Day is like 20/80 or it feels like it whenever they had matches against this past year.....
Please Balor/Bullet Club save us. I'm tired of that damn unicorn. I hope New Day drops that, man. It's so forced and I don't mind The New Day, too. My hopes of a final Dudleyz championship run ended when they have job to New Day week after week.
I haven't even seen Bubba do the Bubba Bomb since they returned..... or at least during the nights I've watched.
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Nah. Brock and Taker still don't have opponents, but they won't be facing each other. At least that's what Meltzer is saying. Taker was supposed to face Cena, but Cena's out. After Monday, I think we're looking at Brock vs. Sheamus. I think that match could be fun in and of itself, but as a big Mania match it sounds like the shits.
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I'm still holding out hope for Owens as Brock's opponent. (The only Mania opponent I'd prefer for Owens outside of Brock is Zayn.)
I think Taker's is kind of in flux. Probably see how hot Styles is when he debuts. If they pull the trigger on the Balor Club early, maybe they go that way. If not, maybe they put over Strowman. I suspect Del Rio is another option.
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According to Dave, Owens hasn't even been brought up as a possible opponent for Brock.
Brock/Owens please! We got like three seconds of that this Monday night. I'll mark out if Owen pop up powerbombs Lesnar during the Rumble. Or if Owens eliminates Lesnar and that starts the feud.
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Brock vs Rocksteady
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One thing I really do like about Brock in the Rumble is that we'll get to see him interact with a lot of guys we've never seen him with before. He's only been in televised matches with a total of about five or six guys since he's been back.
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I saw the house show footage of that match. Wasn't too impressed. Hell, I'd rather have Brock square off with the Wyatt family than a Sheamus feud.
All Vince needs to see is Owens and Brock standing next to each other and it's not happening.
He wasn't in character as Rocksteady though.
Brock vs. Wyatts would sound amazing if they didn't book Bray like garbage every time he feuds with a main eventer. Could've had the Wyatts dominate the Rumble and then Brock come out and wipe them out to jumpstart the feud. Alas, it's hard to see Wyatt as a threat to Brock when he loses as much as he does.
Well that might be true because Owens just showed up at the NXT house show thats happening now to confront Zayn.
I wondering about Bray vs Brock because his group teleported when he showed up.
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I mean, to be fair, Owens is only like an inch or so shorter than Punk.
Wow. So not only isn't he facing Brock, but he also got demoted.
Zayn vs. Owens at Mania. Please.
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Owens vs. Heyman promos would be great.
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Yeah, if there's one match that would topple Owens vs. Brock at Mania on my wish list, it's this one.
Wyatt doesn't have to be the threat in this feud, thankfully. Strowman is the threat. Bray is merely the conduit to get the feud over with Heyman.
Make it a 4 vs. 1 gauntlet match.
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You also have to wonder how Styles and/or Nakamura fit into the WM equation. Nakamura is only going to be at the PC for the first few weeks of February until his medical stuff clears, so unless they just plan on keeping him off TV and sit him on the sidelines, you have to figure he is involved in something. Same with Styles, except he's already ready to go and will probably be at the Rumble.
Undertaker will absolutely wrestle on the show. It's just a matter of who he faces. Hell, they'd have him face fucking Strowman before they'd run the show without him on it. He's too much of a draw to be a healthy scratch.
Undertaker will absolutely wrestle on the show. It's just a matter of who he faces. Hell, they'd have him face fucking Strowman before they'd run the show without him on it. He's too much of a draw to be a healthy scratch.
I know they didn't have a backup but I'd be blown the fuck away if taker wasn't on the card at all
Even if he just destroys balor or something
Punk was also an established main eventer, had a connection to Heyman, was the face in the feud and was a clear underdog. Underdog Owens isn't gonna work.
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I know all of that. I'm just saying the pure "lol Owens so short next to Brock" argument isn't exactly the thing that makes that match not happen.
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If it was AJ vs Stache serious Cody then it would be a great match.
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My hope is that we get Styles vs. Taker and the Balor Club (Balor, Anderson, Gallows, Styles) forms at Mania to annihilate him and put them over huge.
Have Nakamura debut the RAW after Mania.
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I fucking love AJ, but there's not a snowball's chance in hell that he's getting a marquee match at Mania in his first two months, let alone beating the fucking Undertaker. His best hope is an upper mid-card IC title match against someone like Dean or KO.
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Just look at that Stache friend. Looks like he can kick a MF'er dudes ass.
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The report wasn't that the plans were changed, just that it's possible they could change them because WWE doesn't like it when surprises get out. It's still the most logical place to debut him for a variety of reasons, so I wouldn't be surprised if it happens.
This is something that has been worming its way through my brain space for a few years now, but I guess it's time to put it down in this thread and see what you all think.
Bobby Flay is Food Network's John Cena.
You may be asking yourself why is Man God talking about Food Network again, or why this is interesting in any possible way and I'll explain it to you as best I can.
Bobby Flay is instantly unlikable despite having all of the traits of a likable food personality, good looks, good voice, great skills at messaging a product that can be quite technical at times. But due to being over exposed, oozing big city charm, and being pushed down people's throats for nearly 20 years. Now without looking it up I'd wager he's been the star of 20 or so shows on the network, a great deal of which are perfectly acceptable modern Southwestern fusion straight cooking shows. Now to further this comparison his very first show was a two chef bbq show that portrayed him as a city slicker who used a gas grill and was the butt of the amiable but less talented southern chef and his charcoal rig. But his bread and butter since appearing on the original Iron Chef show was competition format shows.
The first of these was actually quite the big deal where he traveled over to Japan and...experienced a bunch of odd technical glitches on the way to his eventual loss. This is kinda like the booking for the worst year of John Cena's life in that he comes across as a bit of a whiner, though the better wrestling comparison is early heel Bret Hart just returning from his hiatus after WM XII. He does get his heat back by winning the return match in NYC a year later, and someone at the Food Network came up with an idea. Well, two ideas, but one of them isn't all that important to this discussion (Iron Chef America, which Bobby Flay starred on for the early seasons, was largely played straight with none of the drama of the Japanese version) the idea that they came up with was this; Let's cast Bobby Flay as a well meaning but cocky heel cooking champion who challenges local specialists at their own best dish, come into their establishment under false pretenses and have a cooking competition. Judged by a panel of three local judges and despite work shopping the dish beforehand with two likable female assistants Bobby Flay would lose a bit more than he won on these events because the home cooking was just too strong to overcome. Most weeks were basically Money in the Bank 2011 to bring it into context.
Now we come to the real meat of this discussion, that show was Throwdown with Bobby Flay. Note the title. He's the one doing the challenging. He's the one scouting the dish and location out. He's the cocky visitor going in over his head yet overcoming the odds a decent amount of the time. Now more recently someone decided to trot out this idea again, only remixed into Beat Bobby Flay. This time he has the home field advantage...and that's about it. It's basically the John Cena UNITED STATES Open Challenge. Two of Bobby's "friends" sample dishes from two genuine up and comer or established chefs who fight for the right to beat Bobby Flay. These friends make well intended ribs on Bobby Flay but try their best to get the crowd to root for the other guys, generally acting as two heel commentators. The person who wins the qualifier, i.e. the one best positioned to beat Bobby Flay then gets to spring the dish of her or his choice on the chef and they get an hour to cook it. The actual judging of this round is not done by the heel commentators but by three expert judges on the food in question. The competitor is usually the arrogant one this time around and the crowd is always in Cena sucks mode, with the competitor usually throwing smack talk at Bobby and him just taking it.
The interesting thing about Throwdown is though...Bobby Flay almost ALWAYS wins.
Bobby Flay is Food Network's John Cena.
You may be asking yourself why is Man God talking about Food Network again, or why this is interesting in any possible way and I'll explain it to you as best I can.
Bobby Flay is instantly unlikable despite having all of the traits of a likable food personality, good looks, good voice, great skills at messaging a product that can be quite technical at times. But due to being over exposed, oozing big city charm, and being pushed down people's throats for nearly 20 years. Now without looking it up I'd wager he's been the star of 20 or so shows on the network, a great deal of which are perfectly acceptable modern Southwestern fusion straight cooking shows. Now to further this comparison his very first show was a two chef bbq show that portrayed him as a city slicker who used a gas grill and was the butt of the amiable but less talented southern chef and his charcoal rig. But his bread and butter since appearing on the original Iron Chef show was competition format shows.
The first of these was actually quite the big deal where he traveled over to Japan and...experienced a bunch of odd technical glitches on the way to his eventual loss. This is kinda like the booking for the worst year of John Cena's life in that he comes across as a bit of a whiner, though the better wrestling comparison is early heel Bret Hart just returning from his hiatus after WM XII. He does get his heat back by winning the return match in NYC a year later, and someone at the Food Network came up with an idea. Well, two ideas, but one of them isn't all that important to this discussion (Iron Chef America, which Bobby Flay starred on for the early seasons, was largely played straight with none of the drama of the Japanese version) the idea that they came up with was this; Let's cast Bobby Flay as a well meaning but cocky heel cooking champion who challenges local specialists at their own best dish, come into their establishment under false pretenses and have a cooking competition. Judged by a panel of three local judges and despite work shopping the dish beforehand with two likable female assistants Bobby Flay would lose a bit more than he won on these events because the home cooking was just too strong to overcome. Most weeks were basically Money in the Bank 2011 to bring it into context.
Now we come to the real meat of this discussion, that show was Throwdown with Bobby Flay. Note the title. He's the one doing the challenging. He's the one scouting the dish and location out. He's the cocky visitor going in over his head yet overcoming the odds a decent amount of the time. Now more recently someone decided to trot out this idea again, only remixed into Beat Bobby Flay. This time he has the home field advantage...and that's about it. It's basically the John Cena UNITED STATES Open Challenge. Two of Bobby's "friends" sample dishes from two genuine up and comer or established chefs who fight for the right to beat Bobby Flay. These friends make well intended ribs on Bobby Flay but try their best to get the crowd to root for the other guys, generally acting as two heel commentators. The person who wins the qualifier, i.e. the one best positioned to beat Bobby Flay then gets to spring the dish of her or his choice on the chef and they get an hour to cook it. The actual judging of this round is not done by the heel commentators but by three expert judges on the food in question. The competitor is usually the arrogant one this time around and the crowd is always in Cena sucks mode, with the competitor usually throwing smack talk at Bobby and him just taking it.
The interesting thing about Throwdown is though...Bobby Flay almost ALWAYS wins.
It's been known to happen on some of the next food network star type of shows.
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I'm pretty sure he's saying D-Lo is the best 😁
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You're being worked buddy.
Anyone have that gif of Vince profiling himself from the first Raw of the year when he's flexing?
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Those nails are #DONE during a match.
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Ciampa is wrestling NXT house shows. That's neat.
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The only thing that could save this Mania is if they push the Daniel Bryan button but that isnt happening and they are just going have him sit out his contract so yeah... I think this year is finally the WM of the modern age where they dont have a panic button to save it.
Also I am calling it. Brock Lesner versus Big Show at mania.
Also I am calling it. Brock Lesner versus Big Show at mania.
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That NXT Dude with the Muscles Some Guy Posted Here a Little While Back... his name was Huge Knox or Hugo Pecs or something
It doesn't matter that Owens is the best natural heel on the roster.
He doesn't have muscles. He doesn't make Vince orgasm. He doesn't do Olympic lifting. He's not a bodybuilder.
He's a big fat tub of lard. He's also more talented than all of the people I listed up above put together.
He should count his blessings he's white and not Swiss.
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Sheamus is literally a bigger star. He's bigger. He's tall. Owens is short.
Goddammit don't you get it?
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