Wrestlemania XXX Main Event:
Daniel Bryan & Sami Zayn d. The Young Bucks in a Russo-esque tag team match for the WWE World Heavyweight Cruiserweight Title.
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January Wrasslin' |OT| The Assassination of Daniel Bryan by the Coward Vince McMahon
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Wrestlemania XXX Main Event:
Daniel Bryan & Sami Zayn d. The Young Bucks in a Russo-esque tag team match for the WWE World Heavyweight Cruiserweight Title.
Lambda Pie
Banned
WM 30 headlined by a F4W between Big E, Ziggler, Cesaro and Generico.
next day WWE announces it's up for sale due to massive losses.
JesseEwiak
Member
Please. Big E has way too many muscles and is too close to John Cena to be in a Wresslegaf main event. Ziggler vs. Cesaro vs. Generico in a 60-minute Iron Man match while Bryan squashes John Cena in three seconds to start the show.
JesseEwiak
Member
You can not like The Rock, but if you don't think the WWE should use the Rock at as many Wrestlemania's as possible, then yes, you're a smark who knows nothing about the business.
Lambda Pie
Banned
i dunno, folks here seem to like Big E in general.
Professor Beef
Banned
"WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS BRYAN CURTAIN JERKING!? WHY DOES HE KEEP GETTING BURIED AND PUT IN 3 MINUTE MATCHES!? FUCKING SHIT."
JesseEwiak
Member
Wait for six months down the line 'til he's taken Daniel's "spot" and teaming with Cena and Roman Reigns in the main event six mans against The Shield and a freshly heel turned CM Punk.
Net_Wrecker
Member
People are selfish, breh, plus most of us don't have any stake in the WWE's bottom line. I couldn't care less about the "business" part of This Business™.
I'd rather watch the WWE die putting on amazing shows that don't draw like the Terminator sinking in lava with a thumbs up than make money with what they've been passing off as "historic" recently. That's the truth of it, and it's why people complain about The Rock vs. John Cena.
Serpentine
Banned
naw, they gotta have ADR/Show vs. Orton/Kane. that's a money match right there
I'd just really prefer they didn't. at least if WWE went out, i'd have more time doing other things, like watching art-house movies and reading books
JesseEwiak
Member
I totally get that. If you want to say, "I don't care, I don't want to see Rock again," that's totally your call. But, when multiple say the WWE shouldn't have done Rock/Cena again or that Rock's been overexposed, those are simply false statements, if you're running the WWE.
I have zero issues with people not liking the WWE product or booking. But, business wise, there's a reason why it's 2014 and Vince stands alone.
So I'm working through the best of Raw and Smavkdown from 2011 4 disc boxset and it has taken me about 4 days to power through it with just about 30minutes left to go and I've already got about 4900 words as a review...I just can't bring myself to finish it and then cull the review into something more readable.
Basically Daniel Bryan was great throughout, Orton vs. Christian was an awesome feud, Punk is great with a mic at all times. Cody Rhodes is featured a lot in the set and we have some really obscure moments including 38 minute segment where everyone had walked out on Triple H as he was in charge.
Basically Daniel Bryan was great throughout, Orton vs. Christian was an awesome feud, Punk is great with a mic at all times. Cody Rhodes is featured a lot in the set and we have some really obscure moments including 38 minute segment where everyone had walked out on Triple H as he was in charge.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Is Alex Riley still employed?
Net_Wrecker
Member
Yeah, you right. I'd like to say I've never said Rocky was the wrong move for their earnings, which is obviously false, but in my numerous rants who knows what manner of nonsense I've spewed. At the end of the day, they're gonna do what makes them as much money as possible so that they can push their huge numbers all year long and make even more the next year. From their perspective I get it. It makes sense, and yes, that's why there's no "Rise & Fall of WWE" book (yet).
I'm still gonna complain though.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Unfortunately.
Somehow
I will admit I was a huge Alex Riley mark back on NXT, but man he's fallen off of a cliff
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
WE KNOW
Net_Wrecker
Member
Quiet down you.
I haven't even been ranting about everything I should've been in the last few months. Don't make ol Stone Cold start stompin mud holes and walking em dry again gimmeahellyeah.
Lambda Pie
Banned
wanna complain about something? complaing about the lack of 4 corners strap matches. what the hell, when was the last one?
Lambda Pie
Banned
wow, don't even remember them having a feud.
Yeah that was the one that came to mind, that and JBL vs...someone I can't remember...Batista?
British Monsoon
Member
When was the last 2/3 Falls match? Seems like forever since there's been a good one in WWE - the last one I remember is Sheamus vs Bryan from 2012.
If you don't like TLOU you're just a jaded smart mark. Do you know how much money that kind of game makes?
* hyperbole
Every week* in NXT which is technically WWE.
* hyperbole
Dark Ninja
Member
Zayn vs Cesaro on NXT. Yes NXT is considered WWE.
Zayn vs. Kruger was even more recent.
Professor Beef
Banned
British Monsoon
Member
Poster for the New Japan Cup;
Any predictions? I'm pretty sure Goto's getting a push this year, but not sure how it's going to happen. Either he wins the title from Okada next month, or gets another shot via the NJC, or more likely via the G1. However, I could also see Okada defeating Goto and then Naito wins the NJC to challenge Okada again, which is what Okada did last year to get the rematch with Tanahashi.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that - hopefully they can repeat the match on the main roster some day.
Any predictions? I'm pretty sure Goto's getting a push this year, but not sure how it's going to happen. Either he wins the title from Okada next month, or gets another shot via the NJC, or more likely via the G1. However, I could also see Okada defeating Goto and then Naito wins the NJC to challenge Okada again, which is what Okada did last year to get the rematch with Tanahashi.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that - hopefully they can repeat the match on the main roster some day.
They're repeating it for the NXT Network Live show at least. I'm so happy with that I could poop.
Serpentine
Banned
There was also Neville vs. Graves 2/3 falls, but it was pretty forgettable. it's Graves's most recent appearance
Net_Wrecker
Member
What rants? new year, new N_W. The only thing I care about in The E is seeing Brock conquer. He needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to the WWE Championship. And whenever he's not on screen, all the other wrestlers should be asking, "Where's Brock Lesnar?"
Lets wait and see how it plays out.
Lambda Pie
Banned
RAW should be 3 hours of following Lesnar around as he stares at people.
i wonder why doesn't cut awesome heel promos anymore.
https://myspace.com/the_greenbook_t...-interview-after-frank-mir-gettingko/60401509
Biography channel had Hulk's on it, so I watched some of that. It was pretty good. Hulk pre-WWF was rough though. He was just 'heel guy' up until Thunderlips. It was also funny to see just how much bigger he was than all those dudes in the territories. You kind of forget that when you see him wrestling guys like Andre.
Then it got me thinking, people compare Cena to Hogan. But Hogan almost never got booed. Not noticeably. Even when he wrestled other faces, even when he wrestled 'serious fan favorites', Hogan always got pops. So what was it that made Hogan able to maintain that and what was it that makes Cena get booed? Was it because there was no internet? Eh, maybe. But people were cheering certain heels back in the 80s on less popular matches. I watched a bunch of promos, and I figured it out.
Hogan, the character, wasn't a fucking asshole. Hogan the character was one dimensional, but the dimension was completely over the top. His goals were clear--cut which made most people relate to him, you hurt the hulkamaniacs, you get the Hulk. It was a simple comic book hero, and it worked. I watched a bunch of 80s era Hogan promos. Not once did he call a woman fatty mchamburgers, not once did he Ted Dibiase's car for no reason other than him having a title, not once did he call Virgil a poor dude man slave and imply homosexuality.
Hulk Hogan might be a hot dog(yeah, you're a hotdogger, hogan), and he DEFINITELY has the jealous eyes, but he was a simple character written perfectly as a simple character. Cena is like super-man written by some edgy 90s writer who thinks he needs more spunk, and it just backfires. He's Superboy. Cena might be a better person out of the ring, but that don't mean shit. Hogan was a better person, character-wise, in the ring. He also injured Inoki because he couldn't control the pythons, brother jack.
Then it got me thinking, people compare Cena to Hogan. But Hogan almost never got booed. Not noticeably. Even when he wrestled other faces, even when he wrestled 'serious fan favorites', Hogan always got pops. So what was it that made Hogan able to maintain that and what was it that makes Cena get booed? Was it because there was no internet? Eh, maybe. But people were cheering certain heels back in the 80s on less popular matches. I watched a bunch of promos, and I figured it out.
Hogan, the character, wasn't a fucking asshole. Hogan the character was one dimensional, but the dimension was completely over the top. His goals were clear--cut which made most people relate to him, you hurt the hulkamaniacs, you get the Hulk. It was a simple comic book hero, and it worked. I watched a bunch of 80s era Hogan promos. Not once did he call a woman fatty mchamburgers, not once did he Ted Dibiase's car for no reason other than him having a title, not once did he call Virgil a poor dude man slave and imply homosexuality.
Hulk Hogan might be a hot dog(yeah, you're a hotdogger, hogan), and he DEFINITELY has the jealous eyes, but he was a simple character written perfectly as a simple character. Cena is like super-man written by some edgy 90s writer who thinks he needs more spunk, and it just backfires. He's Superboy. Cena might be a better person out of the ring, but that don't mean shit. Hogan was a better person, character-wise, in the ring. He also injured Inoki because he couldn't control the pythons, brother jack.
Lambda Pie
Banned
this gets my vote.
also, Hogan had some matches in Japan in the early 90s that were better than anything Cena has ever been involved.
Mr. Luchador
Member
It was his initial run in WCW in the early 90s when he started to get booed, and certainly during his feud with The Dungeon of Doom. They even did a faux-Heel turn when he saved his mustache off and wore black for a week!
Not sure how much of the booing was due to him being from the WWF and beating Ric Flair though.
Rock as a face
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH6bHcxcnFM (Jericho's rant at 5:06 describes today's show lol)
Loved that feud between Jericho-Michaels in 2008. Probably my favorite WWE feud in the past ten years.
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I think Hogan no-selling Vader's powerbomb is the first instance I can recall. It wasn't even just a regular hulkup after a beatdown, either. He laid there for maybe ten seconds, tops. Then he just stood up and started wailing away. Basically erased Vader's entire reputation in one shot.
Though, I'm in no way sticking up for Rock. One of my least favorites to watch, behind Road Dogg and not many others.
I don't have it handy so I can't be sure, but I feel like he got booed in 1993 WWF. Maybe not on RAW, but for sure at WMIX?
this is the first I heard of this. No one should comfortably walk away after a vader bomb. Not even Hogan.
You have to remember Hulk Hogan followed the three demandments of Hulkamania, chief among them the prayers, the training, and the vitamins and was, thus, impervious to harm and moral decay.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8q71z_hulk-no-sales-a-vaderbomb_fun
Even though no one was watching WCW, it seems everyone tuned into this one episode by chance.