Neither did anyone else since the whole industry dropped off after WM17. And despite how much the Invasion PPV drew, the over all disappointment of the angle was a main focus during Austin's heel run and he'd only have about a year left as a competitor anyway. So saying "he never drew as much once he turned heel" doesn't mean a whole lot when you consider everything going on after he turned heel that were beyond his control.
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January Wrasslin' |OT| The Assassination of Daniel Bryan by the Coward Vince McMahon
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Neither did anyone else since the whole industry dropped off after WM17. And despite how much the Invasion PPV drew, the over all disappointment of the angle was a main focus during Austin's heel run and he'd only have about a year left as a competitor anyway. So saying "he never drew as much once he turned heel" doesn't mean a whole lot when you consider everything going on after he turned heel that were beyond his control.
BronsonLee
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So WrassleGAF..
Thanks to Qatar Airways coming to Philly, they're doing huge introductory rates on flights.
So Singapore or Japan.
HELPMEPICKGO
Thanks to Qatar Airways coming to Philly, they're doing huge introductory rates on flights.
So Singapore or Japan.
HELPMEPICKGO
Carnby
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I respectfully disagree. The Attitude Era either started on December 15th 1997 or at Wrestlemania 14. Definitely not at WM 13.
Edit: I did some research. The WWF Attitude logo was used November 1997 to May 2002.
BronsonLee
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Speaking of DX, I expect this promo to be uncensored on the Network.
How did that clip even get out? I remember downloading it on Kazaa in 2000.
Lots of possible launch points:
1. Austin 3:16 promo at KOTR 1996 ("Birth" of the Stone Cold Steve Austin character)
2. Wrestlemania 13 (Greatest match of all time, double turn, Austin is now over as fuck and the fan favorite)
3. Montreal Screwjob (Mr. McMahon character is born, Bret is gone, opening the main event spot for Austin)
4. Vince speech on Raw December 1997
5. Wrestlamania 14 (Austin wins the title, is now officially "the guy", Austin vs. McMahon feud begins on Raw shortly after)
Hard to say, but I think the KOTR 1996 is too early (Raw overall was still cartoonish in 1996). If I had to choose a single point, I'd probably say Screwjob, or a couple of months earlier. The change of direction Vince talked about in that video above was clearly in place during Summer 1997 with Austin's character, DX, Bret loses his shit/Canada vs. USA angle, etc.
It definitely ended with Mania 17 and the... Invasion.
People clearly didn't want to see him as a heel back in 2001, just like Bryan today. At least, from what I understand, it was Austin who wanted to turn heel because he felt his character was getting stale. I find it hard to believe Bryan is vying for a spot with the fucking mid-card wyatt family.
How did that clip even get out? I remember downloading it on Kazaa in 2000.
Lots of possible launch points:
1. Austin 3:16 promo at KOTR 1996 ("Birth" of the Stone Cold Steve Austin character)
2. Wrestlemania 13 (Greatest match of all time, double turn, Austin is now over as fuck and the fan favorite)
3. Montreal Screwjob (Mr. McMahon character is born, Bret is gone, opening the main event spot for Austin)
4. Vince speech on Raw December 1997
5. Wrestlamania 14 (Austin wins the title, is now officially "the guy", Austin vs. McMahon feud begins on Raw shortly after)
Hard to say, but I think the KOTR 1996 is too early (Raw overall was still cartoonish in 1996). If I had to choose a single point, I'd probably say Screwjob, or a couple of months earlier. The change of direction Vince talked about in that video above was clearly in place during Summer 1997 with Austin's character, DX, Bret loses his shit/Canada vs. USA angle, etc.
It definitely ended with Mania 17 and the... Invasion.
People clearly didn't want to see him as a heel back in 2001, just like Bryan today. At least, from what I understand, it was Austin who wanted to turn heel because he felt his character was getting stale. I find it hard to believe Bryan is vying for a spot with the fucking mid-card wyatt family.
Figured something like that would happen after Davey never showed up in Evolve again this weekend. TNA is their last option at this point,and it may do them some good. Get some experience at that level and jump to the E if they become interested again.
BronsonLee
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There's that too. And basically stealing Giant Bomb's THE RAID idea of just rolling down Shibuya and buying everything
Singapore though, I can get to a bunch of other places for very cheap there. And tons to see.
I'll likely make an OT thread later because reasons
I love this. They should let him float around as he pleases. FOX Sports Live guest, UFC Tonight, college sports commentary. The possibilities are endless.
Jim Ross + Brian Stann should be the UFC's B team. Perfect combo.
Hm. Tom Waits did a song called Singapore, and he did one called Big in Japan.
But Shonen Knife did a song called Ah Singapore, and they're FROM Japan.
coin toss, heads is singapore, tails is japan
BronsonLee
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Bronson Lee....I have a question that you might know the answer to. What is the artist - name for Chuck Taylor's current Kentucky Gentlemen theme song. I haven't been able to find that anywhere. All I see listed are his older stuff.
Why would you hate Tom Waits?
You're dead to me. We're going to drag your coffin around bossman style.
bean breath
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Pretty much every speedometer has Kilometer markings, usually inside MPH and in a lighter color. Unless it's digital, then there should be a button to switch.
Thank you for not bashing our shitty road conditions.
We have 2 liter bottles of soda.
A foot is the size of a ruler, consult your metric ruler, flip it to inches and look for the 12 inch mark. It's also the size of a footlong Subway sandwich.
6 feet is average height for a man. anything below that is short, above is tall.
Your country is the size of Stone Cold Steve Austin's ranch. You have the same temperature everywhere, so I can see how using a scale in which only about 20 degrees is actually used can be convenient.
We have many different climate zones from hot and arid desert, to freezing cold tundras. Zero degrees is cold, 100 is hot. I think the equivalent in celsius is 40 to 42 degrees.
It's better than Stone.
You only have one timezone and weird holidays (which doesn't mean vacation) so just disregard that stuff.
Figure out whether you want to be called Holland or The Netherlands, why you're called Dutch when that word is completely unrelated to the aforementioned names, and why Operation Market Garden missions in WWII video games is your country's biggest claim to fame.
I'm a "Attitude Era started the night after Wrestlemania XIV" guy myself.
Granted, a lot of that has to do with me coming back to wrestling that very night but having caught up on 1997 years later I stand by it. 1997 represents an upswing in WWF and it's not really the new generation anymore, but it's not really the attitude era.
It's a lot like the period between the invasion and the brand split.
Granted, a lot of that has to do with me coming back to wrestling that very night but having caught up on 1997 years later I stand by it. 1997 represents an upswing in WWF and it's not really the new generation anymore, but it's not really the attitude era.
It's a lot like the period between the invasion and the brand split.
bean breath
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Attitude Era began when Kane debuted.
El Pescado
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It was uncensored on a DX VHS tape I have. There's also an uncensored clip of someone's boobs that I always assumed was Sunny.
Nocturnowl
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I can get behind this theory, he had the attitude that's for sure.
Actually this is not true, because one side of the country is at the coast there's actually quite a bit of difference in both the summer and winter between one end and another. Oddly enough.
It's The Netherlands, Holland is just two out of twelve provinces and just plain old wrong. I am not from Holland, Holland fucking sucks, I'm a Limburger, not a Hollander (This is where you post a Biker Mice From Mars pic).
Dutch is a mistranslation from you English speaking folk. I don't really know why, but somehow you mixed up Deutsch (=German in actual German) and Nederlands (Dutch).
Our biggest claim to fame is in fact not WW2, but rather our colonization of the world. Holland was on the forefront and have in fact, played quite a big part in building your country, something to think about. Better respect your elders, son!
Nocturnowl
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His existence was mentioned a few times before the PPV took place by Paul Bearer but the character first appeared at Badd Blood.
slightconfuse
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Hope you guys are ready goths return of the original main event playa
Strobogo hates on Don Bass......
I don't know you anymore Strobogo.
Double J is a poor man's Don Bass. Don Bass was awesome.
Just listen to Don Bass sing.
I don't know you anymore Strobogo.
Double J is a poor man's Don Bass. Don Bass was awesome.
Just listen to Don Bass sing.
Hope you guys are ready goths return of the original main event playa
hes comin back??
Nocturnowl
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Months of hype justified!
British Monsoon
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There's Invasion Attack on April 6th at Tokyo's Sumo Hall, should be a pretty big show.
That actually makes sense. Seems like WWF was actually putting out R-rated VHS tapes back in the late 90s. Which is fucking crazy. Just watch the beginning of this Stone Cold VHS lol
Can I be a Shokan?
You are all wrong. The Attitude Era started in 1994...
The era died with, and this is not a tasteless joke, I'm being serious, Chris Benoit. Sure, technically it started to fade with the rise of babyface Cena, or maybe before, but it certainly went beyond when they bought WCW. I'd say it was born during the Austin/Bret WM match and it grew up during the Montreal screwjob.
The era died with, and this is not a tasteless joke, I'm being serious, Chris Benoit. Sure, technically it started to fade with the rise of babyface Cena, or maybe before, but it certainly went beyond when they bought WCW. I'd say it was born during the Austin/Bret WM match and it grew up during the Montreal screwjob.
Hogan is justice!
Indeed, I go by these hulkamania demandments, saying my vitamins and eating my prayers.
goddamnit Hogan
bean breath
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So you've already crossed "spooning with Sunny" off the list?
BronsonLee
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The one he started using as WrestleCon?
I can ask him. Maybe the normal DGUSA music guy has it too.
Because that pothead Sudeikis does!
WEEEELLLLL
Oh fuck.
Nocturnowl
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Only if you're going shopping.
You can be whatever you want.
BoboBrazil
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Well now that they are dumping all the dead weight they can't afford like Hogan, Bischoff, and probably soon Sting and Angle, they are going to have to try to kiss the ass of the IWC again by bringing in the good talent from the indies. I expect a renewed interest in the X division as well any time now.