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Japanese Mobile Gacha Games: Gatcha hand on your wallet and I'm never letting go!

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Sölf

Member
commish said:
It's not very highly regarded around here.
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Hm, in that regard, what would Gacha GAF recommend? Here is a list of what I am currently playing (even if that's only daily login) and what I played.

I am playing:

- Kingdom Hearts Union Cross (not much to do at the moment, but it's Kingdom Hearts and I played it for nearly a year now (EU release))
- Fire Emblem Heroes (Also not that much to do, but permadeath update comes in 2 days, and I am hyped for that)
- Granblue Fantasy (I am probably going to stop playing this though. I really, really like the game, but in GBFs case, the game just has too much to do. I have now played it for roughly 1 month twice, back in December/January and now in May/June. The main "problem" I have are the one time events which happen every week with no downtime and you have to farm them endlessly for the rewards, wich distracts me from the main story (chapter 29 at the moment) and then I stop playing. As said, I really like the game, but in this case, it actually takes too much time)

Now games I played, even if not for long:

- Terra Battle (played and enjoyed it back when I got my new phone ~3 years ago. Not sure how long I played, something around chapter 10-20 maybe? I did like the battle system though, it was something new back then. Maybe I should just give it another go.)
- Fantasy War Tactics (I barely played this. Didn't like it that much, but I maybe played for a few hours, if even that and then somehow forgot this existed. Game was easy as heck, but that's probably because I was still at the beginning - does it get better?)

I guess that's it. I wanted to give Phantom of the Kill a try, because it looks like a more complex FE Heroes, but with these constant crashes I have it drains all motivation I have for playing this game from me.

I only have 2 conditions for recommendations though:

- Must be playable on an emulator (because my phone has no space, KHUx requires all of it)
- Must be in english (else I would probably play this Eden game, but that has no global version yet, not even announced D:)



Sooo, with all that, any recommendations?
 
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commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
I know what you mean by a "more complex FE Heroes". That's why I picked up Fantasy War Tactics, which is actually pretty good (but I ultimately dropped, as I drop everything eventually). You might want to check out Logres, which just came out and people seem to like.

Here's the thread for it:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1381149

There are also some other games along this line of gameplay, but my mind is drawing a blank atm. I'll edit this post when I can remember :)

If you are open to trying other types of gacha, there's always the old standbys of OPTC and Dokkan. I personally think OPTC is the best gacha game right now, but YMMV.
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
I downloaded Bang Dream since it was like #13 on the app store and the gameplay looked like Show By Rock except without the idiotic requirement of needing to use more than two fingers simultaneously on the harder charts.

Game keeps randomly stealing focus from other apps on IOS, which I didn't even know was possible
 
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Dandte

Member
Cosmo Clock 21 said:
I downloaded Bang Dream since it was like #13 on the app store and the gameplay looked like Show By Rock except without the idiotic requirement of needing to use more than two fingers simultaneously on the harder charts.

Game keeps randomly stealing focus from other apps on IOS, which I didn't even know was possible
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Sounded like a rhythm game but the gameplay video looked more like a sim. Speaking of rhythm games, i played way to much One Piece Dance Battle and i'm still waiting for a global release. Until then i'm looking for an other flashy rhythm game with rpg elements and ,i have to admit, waifu material.
 
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MiTYH

Member
Sölf;239414769 said:
Hm, in that regard, what would Gacha GAF recommend? Here is a list of what I am currently playing (even if that's only daily login) and what I played.

I am playing:

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Sooo, with all that, any recommendations?
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I always recommend One Piece Treasure Cruise. Best f2p game out there with daily gems everyday, loads of content, great story mode for those not familiar with it, and did I mention content? And there's a sugofest soon (legends can appear) so it's the best time to rerolled

Also recommend Final Fantasy Record Keeper. I only play it semi-casually, but I'm f2p there and it's a blast. I could delve more into it but I don't have the time. Serious content there too
 
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Tidd

Member
aitakute said:
Now I wonder how is rerolling in SINoALICE
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Easy. At least on Android. The very first thing you do is pulling. After that you can just delete your app data and try it again. Takes like 15 seconds.

Seems like the severs are still up but very slow right now. :/
 
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chrono01

Member
Tidd said:
Easy. At least on Android. The very first thing you do is pulling. After that you can just delete your app data and try it again. Takes like 15 seconds.

Seems like the severs are still up but very slow right now. :/
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This. This is how all gatcha games should be! Give me my gatcha rolls before the 15 minute tutorial section.
 
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Quonny

Member
Jeffrey said:
whats the gameplay?

is it autobattle, or more timing based or other stuff?
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Seems to be two modes. One is super mindless where you literally just tap enemies and it's a one hit kill. There's some chain element where you chain enemies of the same color but it seems really simple and basically a filler mode when you run out of energy.

And then you have the regular battle system where you have support characters that have stats and skills and weapons that have stats and skills that you equip your character with, and I believe this is the only character you direct control, at least at the beginning. Instead of using a character to attack, there is a "weapon deck" at the bottom that you choose from which are your attacks. Your allies from the gacha that you summon I believe are auto-battling alongside you.

I dunno. Seems pretty mindless. Gacha rates seem to blow. 46 rolls, 7 S, no SS. Nice art though. However, I already deleted it. Way too much text and it's a Yoko Taro game. Without understanding the story I don't see a point in playing.
 
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Stider

Member
Well, I have done a few rerolls on SinoAlice and ended up with 2 SSR's (Fire Hammer and Wind Bow), trying to decide if I should stick with that or try for one of the weapons with the extra jobs.

Edit: Also, make sure to check the silver books that pop up as is seems that the SSR's come out of the same book as the SR's
 
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aitakute

Member
So what I'm getting is that you unlock the characters by playing the game and unlock their other classes by specific gacha weapons?
 
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chrono01

Member
I'm watching some people re-roll SINoALICE on NicoNico. The drop-rates for the character job weapons seem to be really low. 3%, is it, or is that all SS weapons?

I still want to play it, just need that Global release (that's never happening :/).
 
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veloxStrix

Banned
chrono01 said:
I'm watching some people re-roll SINoALICE on NicoNico. The drop-rates for the character job weapons seem to be really low. 3%, is it, or is that all SS weapons?

I still want to play it, just need that Global release (that's never happening :/).
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SS weapon rates are fairly decent. Probably somewhere around 20% off the cuff. The class rates are probably around 3% (or less???). I've been rerolling for about ~3h and I've yet to get a class rare.
 
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chrono01

Member
veloxStrix said:
SS weapon rates are fairly decent. Probably somewhere around 20% off the cuff. The class rates are probably around 3% (or less???). I've been rerolling for about ~3h and I've yet to get a class rare.
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Yeah, I can sense the despair in the people on the stream, haha. One guy has been going for just under 4 and a half hours.

That being said, if we did get a Global version, I'd re-roll for the blunder for Cinderella. She's my chosen waifu this early on. Maybe the Staff for Alice, I haven't decided. MAYBE BOTH!
 
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Stider

Member
Itsuki said:
In Sinoalice, is anyone having problems getting the items on the present box? I'm having an infinite loading.
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texhnolyze said:
Me too. I'll try later but I hope I don't have to click those boxes one by one!
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The game as a whole atm has loading problems, it has taken me 3-4 tries to actually get a stage to start without getting a timeout so the game reloads. I managed to get the items out of storage and got the S-rank class weapon from my 2nd 10 draw.
 
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Rixa

Member
Sölf;239414769 said:
Hm, in that regard, what would Gacha GAF recommend? Here is a list of what I am currently playing (even if that's only daily login) and what I played.

I only have 2 conditions for recommendations though:

- Must be playable on an emulator (because my phone has no space, KHUx requires all of it)
- Must be in english (else I would probably play this Eden game, but that has no global version yet, not even announced D:)


Sooo, with all that, any recommendations?
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Final Fantasy: Brave Exvius | OT4

Works: Nox & Memu, maybe other emulators too.
Gacha rate for base 5* is very low (1,5%). FFBE should have first anniversary in around 3 weeks time. Rerolling for base 5* is advisable (not necessary).

If youre interested, hop to that thread and ask more there :).
 
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FiraB

Banned
Have snow white and the mage girl in alice, both with SS weapons in their character pools.

Only downside is I wish the servers werent running on fcking toasters!
 
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aitakute

Member
Pretty disapointed with SINoALICE so far. I expected the game to have plenty of story content since it's a Yoko Taro game but so far the story is almost... non existence? Each "story" chapter so far is just the portrait of the character saying a single line and then battle. Can't even advance much because freaking server won't let me. Keep getting gate way time out. Can someone tell me if there are more stories later?
 
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FiraB

Banned
aitakute said:
Pretty disapointed with SINoALICE so far. I expected the game to have plenty of story content since it's a Yoko Taro game but so far the story is almost... non existence? Each "story" chapter so far is just the portrait of the character saying a single line and then battle. Can't even advance much because freaking server won't let me. Keep getting gate way time out. Can someone tell me if there are more stories later?
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Judging by it he seems to have done the concept of the game and established the basis but other then that its SE mobile written all over it.

Have snow white, alice and ibaraki now with SS weapons. My luck is unreal of these pulls, no reroll and three 10 pulls for victory.

Wish my granblue luck wss this strong.
 
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aitakute

Member
FiraB said:
Judging by it he seems to have done the concept of the game and established the basis but other then that its SE mobile written all over it.

Have snow white, alice and ibaraki now with SS weapons. My luck is unreal of these pulls, no reroll and three 10 pulls for victory.

Wish my granblue luck wss this strong.
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If this was all it has then I guess I'll skip it. Too bad it really has nice artworks. I was really hyped for this game. Another Eden is way better than this.
I understand your Granblue pain though. I spent like 500k yen on that game
 
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Itsuki

Member
I managed to get the items from the present box. I'm still getting a lot of timeouts. Hopefully it gets fixed soon. Maybe S-E didn't expect to have a lot of players in the first days?
 
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aitakute

Member
SINoAlice gacha rate
Alice's job unlock SS weapon 0.666% (Rate boosted)
Cinderella's job SS unlock weapon 0.666% (Rate boosted)
Gretel's job unlock SS weapon 0.034%
Pinocchio's job unlock S weapon 3% (Rate boosted)
Kaguya Hime's job unlock S weapon 0.361%

Damn rates.
 
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Draxal

Member
The one thing I like about Sinoalice so far, is that the art is internally consistent (like Granblue).

The art in games like Feheroes and say something like FGO or Kancolle where they use multiple artists really hurts the game. I know that's there is a few that share the same opinion as me, but looking at the success of FGO, I would say not many.
 
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Lostconfused

Member
FE Heroes looks fairly consistent to me when disabling combat animations and none of the units level up.

Just you know get rid of everything that isn't sprite art. And then lose a bunch of sales when people don't get to ogle their waifu but whatever.
 
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Jeffrey

Member
Never understood the appeal of ridiculously low rates. Turns me off the game. Free gold is useless if I don't have a fighting chance to pull the good stuff.

No desire to open the wallet either lol.
 
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Kreed

Member
Anyone know how the Japanese version of Dragon Poker is doing? The SEA version (Dragon Ace) with English translation is shutting down this month so I am tempted to switch but I don't want to waste my time if both versions are likely to shut down.
 
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casiopao

Member
aitakute said:
SINoAlice gacha rate
Alice's job unlock SS weapon 0.666% (Rate boosted)
Cinderella's job SS unlock weapon 0.666% (Rate boosted)
Gretel's job unlock SS weapon 0.034%
Pinocchio's job unlock S weapon 3% (Rate boosted)
Kaguya Hime's job unlock S weapon 0.361%

Damn rates.
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Wow to think there is other game with gacha rate as bad as FGO early time lol.O_O OMG.
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
Kreed said:
Anyone know how the Japanese version of Dragon Poker is doing? The SEA version (Dragon Ace) with English translation is shutting down this month so I am tempted to switch but I don't want to waste my time if both versions are likely to shut down.
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they're adding a new Tower Dungeon (and canceling the Casino Dungeon that had been listed as "coming soon" for like three years) so it's still chugging along. Definitely hasn't been as high atop the Top Grossing list as it had been when I first started playing though
 
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Sölf

Member
So, after trying some thing, I found Super Monster League and have been playing that for most of the day. So far (end of chapter 4) I really like it. Let's see how long I will play it though. xD
 
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