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Jared's defense blames Subway sandwiches for his pedophilia- He still gets 15 years

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Ms.Galaxy

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5.6 terabytes of child pornography? I feel really sick at the strong possibility that my younger self was in there somewhere. God, I just threw up at the thought too.
 

Majanew

Banned
I'm glad he got 15 years, but he probably could have gotten a lesser sentence if he would have killed a kid instead of watching and touching them.
 

Ms.Galaxy

Member
I hate to ask, but why?

At the age of 7, I was kidnapped, tortured, branded, raped and forced into child prostitution for a little more than 2 months until I was "saved". The men responsible had video taped every interaction I had with their sick clients and I know for a fact that those videos are floating around the dark web.
 
At the age of 7, I was kidnapped, tortured, branded, raped and forced into child prostitution for a little more than 2 months until I was "saved". The men responsible had video taped every interaction I had with their sick clients and I know for a fact that those videos are floating around the dark web.

Wow. That is...I am so sorry. I can't even imagine that. I hope you've gotten as much peace as you can since then.
 
At the age of 7, I was kidnapped, tortured, branded, raped and forced into child prostitution for a little more than 2 months until I was "saved". The men responsible had video taped every interaction I had with their sick clients and I know for a fact that those videos are floating around the dark web.

Oh my god. That's absolutely horrible. I'm so sorry that happened.
 
He is paying out loads of cash to several underage girls he slept with, he also confided in someone he allegedly had sex with a 9 year old.

And he was essentially paying someone to produce and find child porn for him. His entire foundation appears to be a front for a massive child porn ring.

So yeah, maybe read a little before Devils advoderping.

Fair enough. Based on this I think he should go to prison, obviously. And you're right, I probably should have read more about it, but I stand by my original point.
 

Ray Wonder

Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
At the age of 7, I was kidnapped, tortured, branded, raped and forced into child prostitution for a little more than 2 months until I was "saved". The men responsible had video taped every interaction I had with their sick clients and I know for a fact that those videos are floating around the dark web.

Holy crap that's terrible

I'm glad you made it out.

That would be a super creepy thought thinking you're in that 5TB..
 

Ms.Galaxy

Member
Wow. That is...I am so sorry. I can't even imagine that. I hope you've gotten as much peace as you can since then.

Thank you. Flashbacks happen from time to time, and it took until I was 16 to actually get treated for the trauma, but as of now I'm at peace for the most part. This is also why I say "save", because mom thought the best solution after all that happen was to stay quiet about all of it in fear of embarrassment. Oh, and disallowed me from looking or acting like a girl because she thought that's why they did it.

Holy crap that's terrible

I'm glad you made it out.

That would be a super creepy thought thinking you're in that 5TB..

A part of me wants to know, but another part is too horrified at the possible reality if it being there. The possibility of it being there is making me feel sick right now.
 
Thank you. Flashbacks happen from time to time, and it took until I was 16 to actually get treated for the trauma, but as of now I'm at peace for the most part. This is also why I say "save", because mom thought the best solution after all that happen was to stay quiet about all of it in fear of embarrassment. Oh, and disallowed me from looking or acting like a girl because she thought that's why they did it.

Wow.....

I am so very sorry...I am speechless. At what happened to you and your Mother's reaction.
 

JDSN

Banned
Is there any evidence that he actually molested any children, or did he just watch a lot of child porn?

I'll probably get a shit ton of flak for this, but I don't think that watching or having child porn should warrant prison time, just a large fine...

Unless of course there's evidence that he was actually involved in the molestation of any children, be it doing it himself or paying others to do it...

Putting these people in jail isn't going to stop the content from being created

Common bro, dont fullfill the anime avatar sterotype, consuming child porn means that you are directly supporting creating and propagating it, which means its gonna lead to hurting more kids. Please consider that in the future before thinking this way.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
Thank you. Flashbacks happen from time to time, and it took until I was 16 to actually get treated for the trauma, but as of now I'm at peace for the most part. This is also why I say "save", because mom thought the best solution after all that happen was to stay quiet about all of it in fear of embarrassment. Oh, and disallowed me from looking or acting like a girl because she thought that's why they did it.
Holy shit... what you went through is unconscionable enough, but not even getting a minimum of support from your mother, the one person every child should feel completely safe with... I have no words. Ihope you're ok despite all this. :'(
 
At the age of 7, I was kidnapped, tortured, branded, raped and forced into child prostitution for a little more than 2 months until I was "saved". The men responsible had video taped every interaction I had with their sick clients and I know for a fact that those videos are floating around the dark web.

That is horrible and I really, REALLY hope the people responsible got put away for good. I hope you've been able to find some measure of peace after that.

They need to throw the book at assholes like those people and Jared.
 
Is there any evidence that he actually molested any children, or did he just watch a lot of child porn?

I'll probably get a shit ton of flak for this, but I don't think that watching or having child porn should warrant prison time, just a large fine...

Unless of course there's evidence that he was actually involved in the molestation of any children, be it doing it himself or paying others to do it...

Putting these people in jail isn't going to stop the content from being created

Ok I'm going to break this down for you in three easy steps.

People make money off of child pornography.

The sexual exploitation of children is then bought by people, supporting the sexual exploitation of children to continue.

He had over five terabytes of child porn, his friend was producing child porn and Jared was viewing it.

Bonus Step Four: There are other rumors and alligations that he had sex with minors, not sure if they were convictions or if he just plea bargained his way out of them.
 

Mengy

wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Just read the guy had 5.6 terabytes of the stuff between him and his friend. That's like a mindblowing huge amount. That much regular porn would be insane.

Holy shit, 5.6 TB of child porn? That's an incredibly insane amount, was he hosting a streaming site or something?

I've stopped eating at Subway completely, for two reasons:

1. they covered this up, so fuck them
2. I don't want to catch the "mild" pedo that their sandwiches apparently cause
 

Garlador

Member
Just read the guy had 5.6 terabytes of the stuff between him and his friend. That's like a mindblowing huge amount. That much regular porn would be insane.

Just checked our company's harddrive. We have a large online business with over 60 stores and thousands upon thousands of product photos, videos, and marketing material.

Yeah, we don't have 5.6 TB of stuff on there. He had more of that stuff than we do merchandise, commercials, and advertisements combined.

Lock him up and throw away the key.
 
I think this part warrants more attention than it's receiving:



What the fucking fuck

and here's a photo of them together.

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At the age of 7, I was kidnapped, tortured, branded, raped and forced into child prostitution for a little more than 2 months until I was "saved". The men responsible had video taped every interaction I had with their sick clients and I know for a fact that those videos are floating around the dark web.

Holy fuck, and then your mom's awful reaction... what a fucking nightmare.

I'm so glad you're okay now.
 

Symphonia

Banned
At the age of 7, I was kidnapped, tortured, branded, raped and forced into child prostitution for a little more than 2 months until I was "saved". The men responsible had video taped every interaction I had with their sick clients and I know for a fact that those videos are floating around the dark web.
This world is a fucked up place. I'm so sorry to hear that.
 

Ms.Galaxy

Member
Holy fuck, and then your mom's awful reaction... what a fucking nightmare.

I'm so glad you're okay now.

Oh trust me, it gets far worse from there. The police, or any law agency for that matter, didn't know that I was kidnapped because she never called them. She told me later on that she didn't know what to do because she was still new to this country (We just immigrated from Portugal to seek refuge from my abusive drunk father). She spent 2 months praying to God that I would come back instead. I was only saved because a 17 year old boy who was forced to teach me how to pleasure those bastards managed to smuggle me and 2 other kids in a truck so we could escape from that hell and dropped us off at a hospital.
 

Garlador

Member
When does the other guy get sentenced? he is just as sick and disgusting if not more so for being the one that recorded all the stuff, even his own children.
they both should rot in jail for the rest of their lives

His case is on-going... because, while Jared was high-profile, the other guy's involvement was far, FAR worse and far more extensive.
Under the plea agreement, Taylor cannot ask the court for a prison sentence under 15 years in imprisonment. The court will have to approve the agreement — under which the government will recommend a sentence of up to 35 years in prison plus supervised release for the remainder of Taylor’s life.

Taylor’s downfall began in late April, when Indiana State Police detectives got information that former charity head possessed illegal pornographic images, according to the U.S. attorney’s statement. They uncovered a cache of sexually explicit photos and videos produced when Taylor secretly filmed minors at his home.

Investigators found more than 400 child pornography videos on computers, cell phones and other devices in a home office, according to federal prosecutors. The videos were produced in his Indianapolis residences between March 2011 and January 2015.

A dozen minors were involved, including some related to Taylor, according to a complaint.

Taylor and Fogle discussed the secret production of the videos in Taylor’s homes, and Fogle obtained a significant amount of the material, according to prosecutors.

In addition, Taylor provided Fogle with child pornography he downloaded from the Internet involving children as young as 6, prosecutors said.

This was the guy MAKING the material... involving his own children in his own home. If Jared is the equivalent of Darth Vader, then this guy's the Emperor of the child porn empire.
 

KHarvey16

Member
When does the other guy get sentenced? he is just as sick and disgusting if not more so for being the one that recorded all the stuff, even his own children.
they both should rot in jail for the rest of their lives

In addition to the info above, his sentencing is scheduled for next month. As it says the most the prosecution can ask for is 35 years but as in the Fogle case it wouldn't be surprising if he was sentenced for longer then that.
 
Oh trust me, it gets far worse from there. The police, or any law agency for that matter, didn't know that I was kidnapped because she never called them. She told me later on that she didn't know what to do because she was still new to this country (We just immigrated from Portugal to seek refuge from my abusive drunk father). She spent 2 months praying to God that I would come back instead. I was only saved because a 17 year old boy who was forced to teach me how to pleasure those bastards managed to smuggle me and 2 other kids in a truck so we could escape from that hell and dropped us off at a hospital.

....whhhaaat? She didn't call the fucking Police and instead fucking prayed?

Jesus Christ.

What happened to that boy? He's a damn hero.
 

Ms.Galaxy

Member
....whhhaaat? She didn't call the fucking Police and instead fucking prayed?

Jesus Christ.

What happened to that boy? He's a damn hero.

I think he went into hiding because he had nowhere to go and he feared retaliation, but honestly, I think he might have ended his own life after dropping us off. Kiki, that's what they called him, was raised in that environment since birth if I recall. Once he turned 15, he was pretty much used as a personal sex slave for Peter (The man who kidnapped me) and his "job" was to teach the new kids how to perform sexual acts and such.
 
I think he went into hiding because he had nowhere to go and he feared retaliation, but honestly, I think he might have ended his own life after dropping us off. Kiki, that's what they called him, was raised in that environment since birth if I recall. Once he turned 15, he was pretty much used as a personal sex slave for Peter (The man who kidnapped me) and his "job" was to teach the new kids how to perform sexual acts and such.
....... wow.

To this whole story, just, wow.

Was Peter or anyone else ever found and/or prosecuted?
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
I think he went into hiding because he had nowhere to go and he feared retaliation, but honestly, I think he might have ended his own life after dropping us off. Kiki, that's what they called him, was raised in that environment since birth if I recall. Once he turned 15, he was pretty much used as a personal sex slave for Peter (The man who kidnapped me) and his "job" was to teach the new kids how to perform sexual acts and such.
Good fucking gods, this whole story is pure depravity.
 
Thank you. Flashbacks happen from time to time, and it took until I was 16 to actually get treated for the trauma, but as of now I'm at peace for the most part. This is also why I say "save", because mom thought the best solution after all that happen was to stay quiet about all of it in fear of embarrassment. Oh, and disallowed me from looking or acting like a girl because she thought that's why they did it.

I can relate all too well (though I'm sorry your story sounds so much worse than mine). If we're being candid here, my stepfather molested and raped me and my two older sisters from when I was about 4. He was the stay at home dad and my mom was at work all the time and was none the wiser. It went on for 8 years until my oldest sister's boyfriend found out and finally confronted him. I was just getting to the end of Junior High and I was so "broken" going through High School.

I'm 31 now, and I'm in a much better place. Like you though, I get the occasional flashbacks. SO yeah when I say "No sympathy" I'm not just throwing it out there. I know just how these slimeballs think.
 
Is there any evidence that he actually molested any children, or did he just watch a lot of child porn?

I'll probably get a shit ton of flak for this, but I don't think that watching or having child porn should warrant prison time, just a large fine...

Unless of course there's evidence that he was actually involved in the molestation of any children, be it doing it himself or paying others to do it...

Putting these people in jail isn't going to stop the content from being created

This is disgusting
 
Is there any evidence that he actually molested any children, or did he just watch a lot of child porn?

I'll probably get a shit ton of flak for this, but I don't think that watching or having child porn should warrant prison time, just a large fine...

Unless of course there's evidence that he was actually involved in the molestation of any children, be it doing it himself or paying others to do it...

Putting these people in jail isn't going to stop the content from being created

Aside from being wrong, at least read up on the case first.
 
Ok I'm going to break this down for you in three easy steps.

People make money off of child pornography.

The sexual exploitation of children is then bought by people, supporting the sexual exploitation of children to continue.

He had over five terabytes of child porn, his friend was producing child porn and Jared was viewing it.

Bonus Step Four: There are other rumors and alligations that he had sex with minors, not sure if they were convictions or if he just plea bargained his way out of them.

Common bro, dont fullfill the anime avatar sterotype, consuming child porn means that you are directly supporting creating and propagating it, which means its gonna lead to hurting more kids. Please consider that in the future before thinking this way.

On mobile, I may respond in more detail later.

I will say now that a direct involvement warrants improsonment, as I said earlier.

The only possible way to end child porn with real children is to create an alternative with fake children.

Somebody will always be there to make it, you can't stop it. Not saying you shouldn't try, but it's useless to punish the people who are solely viewing because it won't stop the production. You can't hope to imprison everyone, you have to cut it off at the neck, or like I said, create an alternative (robots or cg or something) that keeps children safe, and money out of the producers pockets.

Its absolutely useless to punish viewers unless there's a direct link.

It has been made clear to me that this is not the case with Jared, so I will rescind my statement of this applying to him, but as a general sentiment I believe it to be true.

Unless someone can provide evidence that punishing viewers of child porn with prison has a direct link to the decrease of child porn content, I have absolutely no reason to believe otherwise.
 

Chmpocalypse

Blizzard
Fair enough. Based on this I think he should go to prison, obviously. And you're right, I probably should have read more about it, but I stand by my original point.

Your original point is insane. Consuming child porn continues the cycle of abuse and rape of children used to produce it. It absolutely warrants jail time.
 
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