Heckler456
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Tobias and Gob made season 4 alright for me.
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Jason Bateman on Arrested Development S5: "Everybody is in every episode"
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gob is season 4
George Oscar Bluth II
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I absolutely agree.
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you should finish it.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Ooo baby, we got a stew going
Noooo. People are too hard on S4, probably because S1-3 is some of the GOAT comedy.
Its actually gotten better with age because of today's political climate and the rise of the Hello Darkness meme
The latter half of S4 is really good. George Michael episodes are amazing
http://mangoinyourmouth.com/
Noooo. People are too hard on S4, probably because S1-3 is some of the GOAT comedy.
Its actually gotten better with age because of today's political climate and the rise of the Hello Darkness meme
The latter half of S4 is really good. George Michael episodes are amazing
http://mangoinyourmouth.com/
Garrett 2U
Member
It makes me really happy that someone pays money to keep that website and domain alive, for a little joke that very few are going to see.
The Illiterati
Member
The worst parts of the season were the Lindsay and George Sr eps and the over long episodes in general. Cut the fat. There's tons of boring stuff in the episodes. You could make a really good season out of what's there.
SAME.
metalslimer
Member
There is still an amazing show in places of season 4. Unfortunately the newness of Netflix made the team think they needed for episodes to be far longer than they needed to be and the split cast hurt the chemistry.
I can't believe that people can deny the greatness of the GOB episode and Tobias stuff. The worst shit was the Michael and George Michael bullshit. Everything else was tolerable
I can't believe that people can deny the greatness of the GOB episode and Tobias stuff. The worst shit was the Michael and George Michael bullshit. Everything else was tolerable
Lilalaunebaer
Member
Oh my god yes.
I was cautiously optimistic before, but now i´m full on hype mode. Can´t wait.
I was cautiously optimistic before, but now i´m full on hype mode. Can´t wait.
blame space
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do they have an ETA for this? next year?
I saw Bateman's in another Netflix show that's about to come out.
I saw Bateman's in another Netflix show that's about to come out.
Next year.
Bloodporne
Member
Well that's good news, might actually give it another shot then.
S4 was obnoxious and unfunny, I couldn't even make it to the end. It was just...awkward and kind of depressing at points. The only episode I actually enjoyed was GOB.
S4 was obnoxious and unfunny, I couldn't even make it to the end. It was just...awkward and kind of depressing at points. The only episode I actually enjoyed was GOB.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Season 4 is tough because all the worst episodes are at the beginning. It never reaches regular AD heights but it does get good. The George Sr episodes in particular are especially bad.
I believe it's been confirmed for 2018. With production starting in August it'll probably be out sometime in the spring.
March of the Crabs
Member
Say what you want about Season 4, but I Bateman's delivery of "Have you ever even been on a plane, you piece of shit?" is masterful.
Bloodporne
Member
I'm actually in the middle of rewatching the first few seasons and my god, this has to be one of the funniest shows ever made.
That absolutely amazing coffin-trick-gone-awry scene always makes me cry with laughter.
That absolutely amazing coffin-trick-gone-awry scene always makes me cry with laughter.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
So this will be the real 4th Season.
Yeah its not like there was an alternative to season 4 format at the time given actors' schedules. It was either that or no season 4, from what I understand. Looking forward to season 5 though!
I recently watched S4 and was horrified during the first half. But like many have said, it gets much better. The problem is that all the payoffs come in the second half and you have to endure hours of setups. The last few episodes are vintage AD.
There were many issues overall:
-Episodes were too long (that smoking gag...)
-Too many useless cameos, especially in the second Michael episode
-Call-backs were way too obvious and forced
-Michael is completely different character
-More "clever" than funny
-Too ambitious
There were many issues overall:
-Episodes were too long (that smoking gag...)
-Too many useless cameos, especially in the second Michael episode
-Call-backs were way too obvious and forced
-Michael is completely different character
-More "clever" than funny
-Too ambitious
TetraGenesis
Member
I really, really want to watch Mitch Hurwitz's season 4 re-edit. There's no precedent for it but it would be amazing if Netflix let him release it along the original 4 so people could choose.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
The writing in season 4 was just as sharp as it was in earlier seasons, the problems arose from having to separate characters and actors who didn't function well in an ensemble. This is great news.
Which will be solved because he'll be playing off his family every episode. S4 just reinforced that he needs them around to feign superiority.
Gob was dating Her before that though
Oh fuck yes! Way more excited.
I couldn't disagree more with those saying there's nothing to fix with Michael. Yes he was always a shitty person. He's a Bluth. He wasn't absolutely fucking pathetic though. In S1-3 he and Lucille were the only two Bluths who had the strength to deal with the overwhelming stupidity of the rest of the clan. S4 Michael is hopeless.
I couldn't disagree more with those saying there's nothing to fix with Michael. Yes he was always a shitty person. He's a Bluth. He wasn't absolutely fucking pathetic though. In S1-3 he and Lucille were the only two Bluths who had the strength to deal with the overwhelming stupidity of the rest of the clan. S4 Michael is hopeless.
I hope season 5 cuts out those awful side characters from season 4. Like Rebel Ally and Marky Bark or whatever his name was. And all the celebrity cameos were more distracting than anything else.
Not really. S1-3 Michael would have never dated his son's girlfriend behind his back. Hell, Michael had trouble dating women early on because he was worried George Michael wasn't ready yet. S4 Michael was a far worse person than he was before. I don't even know how that's up for debate.
Not really. S1-3 Michael would have never dated his son's girlfriend behind his back. Hell, Michael had trouble dating women early on because he was worried George Michael wasn't ready yet. S4 Michael was a far worse person than he was before. I don't even know how that's up for debate.
I think I'm in the minority on this one but I really dislike Maria Bamford and her brand of wackiness and could do without her character.
Goro Majima
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Season 4 was mostly better on a second viewing like every other season. Especially because I was able to better understand the timeline of events of what happened and when. The first time through it all seems kinda muddled together.
But the second viewing was also when I really noticed how often they were abusing body doubles and camera angles. If anything I was kinda amazed that they made it as good as they did with that limitation.
But the second viewing was also when I really noticed how often they were abusing body doubles and camera angles. If anything I was kinda amazed that they made it as good as they did with that limitation.
There is something "off" in virtually every scene with Henry Winkler and Liza Minelli, be it green screen, body doubles etc. I'm glad that all the characters were in the show but it's all quite messy, the scheduling must have been a nightmare.
Discotheque
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I wish they forced an episode length limit on this too. The fox ones were so tight whereas with the Netflix episodes the jokes were hurt by the editing not being as snappy due to having such free reign
The silliness of AD only works when its snappy. This is what sunk the season even more than the split up cast.
Camper Van Beethoven
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Its not gonna be good, guys. Dont set yourself up for pain.
Season 4 was fine. And even for those that disagree, they must agree it totally redeemed itself when the mariachi band started playing Sound of Silence.
PingPongvonLaserstein
Member
Yeah, the writing was fine. I think another problem is that as a function of the way the story is told in season 4, parceled out by character, things can't really get rolling full steam until the later episodes when all the threads start to come together. I've found that going back to it a second time, I enjoyed season 4 a lot more when I knew where it was heading.
That's neither an excuse for nor a endorsement of the final product, but I guess they were trying to make the best of a less than ideal situation. It's a shame, because I feel like without the scheduling conflicts, there's a really excellent season hidden in there. The gags are still largely on point, you just don't always have the full context for them and they don't work as well without the interplay of the core cast.
Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
Is it possible to love a show you've never watched
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Sounds good. I loved S4, but the previous ones were obviously better, partly because of the structure.
Mitch's recut S4 I think has each episode running closer to the Fox ones, so hopefully he's carrying that over to here too.
Hero of Time
Member
Great news, glad everyone will be together, really missed seeing the classic AD family dynamic in S4.
I'd also really like to finally see the redone S4 already, its been finished for ages but doesn't get released for some reason.
I'd also really like to finally see the redone S4 already, its been finished for ages but doesn't get released for some reason.
Sounds good to me. Get the cast interacting more and keep the episodes below 30 minutes (i mean, as a rule, but mainly to make sure the scenes move quickly), and I think this is gonna be good. Season 4 had a lot of funny stuff in it but that was obscured by these two issues, and also like many people have pointed out, it starts quite badly and gets better in the later episodes, but hopefully that won't be an issue here and they can get the jokes up and running right away.
How do you know this? I take it there's no way to see this recut yet, right?
How do you know this? I take it there's no way to see this recut yet, right?