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Jason Dies! Friday the 13th Reboot Shutdown

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Dram

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Is Jason that big of a box office draw anymore? Wouldn't it be easier just to create a new horror character that they could own the rights to?
 
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Travo

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Fat4all said:
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Well done.
 
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Baron Aloha

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When I was a kid in the 80's we used to joke that the Friday the 13th series would stop after 13 movies. This would have been the 13th if you count Freddy vs Jason. It's going to happen. It is just a question of when.

I really want to see ANOES make a comeback though. The imagery in those movies was something else. Lots of originality. The reboot was awful though.
 
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Sweeney Tom

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BattleMonkey said:
Most the 80's Friday's were done in a few months, less than a years development as it was an annual event pretty much back then.
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This is the most fitting response I can think of:
excelsiorlef said:
Like this isn't surprising this movie has had like 3 directors or more, several scripts, several synopses and has been scheduled to be released on every Friday the 13 fir several years now, and to my knowledge not a single actor had ever been cast in all that time.

This is the Duke Nukem Forever of movies only this one will never get made
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Of course there's going to be another Friday the 13th film eventually. Hell, there's going to be another Saw, so it's not like there can't be another Friday eventually. It just wasn't, and was never going to be, this one. Warner and New Line will start completely over from scratch when they reobtain the rights.
 
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Hero_of_the_Day

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I thought the reboot was the best of the series. Way better than the worthless Nightmare on Elm Street or piece of shit Halloween remakes. At the same time, I'm pretty okay with being done with the series.
 
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BattleMonkey

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excelsiorlef said:
What's important to note is 2009 (which I really enjoyed) made almost all of its money opening weekend. The drop off after week one was epically terrible

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_the_13th_(2009_film)


2009 opening weekend was driven by nostalgia for Jason. Then people saw it, hated it and word of mouth killed it. Take out the crazy week one and this movie would have struggled to gross double its budget. 2009 had goodwill for opening weekend. There'd have been zero goodwill to a sequel to the 2009 version. Hemce why this one that is never happening was slated to be another reboot.
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It did fairly well for a Jason flick internationally though too. Any sequels were not gonna do as much bank for sure, but they kinda missed the boat on this with what could have been easy bank. The series was always typical low budget slasher that easily turned a small profit, if anything they simply got too greedy with the reboots expecting massive numbers when that's not how these movies typically worked
 
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Hero_of_the_Day said:
I thought the reboot was the best of the series. Way better than the worthless Nightmare on Elm Street or piece of shit Halloween remakes. At the same time, I'm pretty okay with being done with the series.
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I thought the reboot was less best and more like a "best of" compilation fitting the most memorable things from the first four films into a reboot. I enjoyed it for what it was.

And while I said I don't mind this I also wouldn't mind if a new one came out and was good, I just don't see a need for it.
 
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Erv

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They should do this just for the fact a new videogame is coming out. The game could help promote the movie
 
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WyndhamPrice

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I often wonder about these attempted reboots of 80s horror franchises, and I think any successful attempt would need to do way more than just be a slasher movie. The climate for moviemaking is just so, so different from back then.
 
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Freddy=Legend

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I can't buy that Rings was totally the reason. If the movie is good, it'll do fine. Lights Out, The Conjuring 2, The Shallows, Don't Breathe; they all did pretty good at the box office this past year. Mostly because they were all good horror films.

I think they probably looked at the script and saw they were half-assing it and it wouldn't fly. Put a little effort into the story and I'm sure a half-decent Jason film will do fine at the box office.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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Transistor said:
After the horrible reboot, I can't blame them
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The remake is better than 3/4ths of the original films

It's always been shit-tier filmmaking in general. Being mediocre at best immediately moves you to the top of the heap.

Friday the 13th started life as a title and good timing. It succeeded not due to quality, but to quantity. Paramount kept going to that hole because nobody buying tickets gave a shit about anything other than tits and kills.
 
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JDHarbs

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WyndhamPrice said:
I often wonder about these attempted reboots of 80s horror franchises, and I think any successful attempt would need to do way more than just be a slasher movie. The climate for moviemaking is just so, so different from back then.
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I dream of what a Fury Road caliber reboot of Friday the 13th would be like.
 
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Enk

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They were going to call it "Friday the 13th Part 13" and the Jason design was supposed to be based off of Part 3! Dammit...
 
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Sho_Nuff82

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Can this franchise stay dead? The only good ones were the first two and FvJ.

There's only so many ways to iterate on "teens get ripped to shreds by bulky guy in mask". At least with something like Your Next or The Purge there is potential for surprises and fuckery.
 
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Biggest-Geek-Ever

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Freddy=Legend said:
I can't buy that Rings was totally the reason. If the movie is good, it'll do fine. Lights Out, The Conjuring 2, The Shallows, Don't Breathe; they all did pretty good at the box office this past year. Mostly because they were all good horror films.

I think they probably looked at the script and saw they were half-assing it and it wouldn't fly. Put a little effort into the story and I'm sure a half-decent Jason film will do fine at the box office.
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As I mentioned above, I think you can blame the anemia of the genre on Scream 4: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=slasher.htm&sort=date&order=DESC&p=.htm

Plenty of decent sized hits, especially after Rob Zombie's Halloween got the ball rolling on remakes. And then Scream 4 disappoints and there's been fuck all since except for a truly godawful Texas Chainsaw film. Ironic considering the Scream franchise revitalized slasher flicks in the late 90's.
 
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Fury451

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Dram said:
Is Jason that big of a box office draw anymore? Wouldn't it be easier just to create a new horror character that they could own the rights to?
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Like the Bye Bye Man?

Or the memorable Sinister/Insidious icons?

No, lightning struck at the right time to create the classic slasher horror icons. It's hard to replicate.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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JDHarbs said:
In terms of of time, love, and dedication to the property by it's creator. Not style.
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It's creators made it specifically to draft off the slasher trend that was rising at the time. There was no real artistic intent on display by anyone not named Tom Savini.
 
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DeathoftheEndless

Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
As much as I enjoy the franchise, it's a product of its time. It wouldn't be the same made today and audiences don't care about slashers anymore.
 
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BattleMonkey

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Biggest-Geek-Ever said:
As I mentioned above, I think you can blame the anemia of the genre on Scream 4: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/genres/chart/?id=slasher.htm&sort=date&order=DESC&p=.htm

Plenty of decent sized hits, especially after Rob Zombie's Halloween got the ball rolling on remakes. And then Scream 4 disappoints and there's been fuck all since except for a truly godawful Texas Chainsaw film. Ironic considering the Scream franchise revitalized slasher flicks in the late 90's.
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Well Scream 4 also fucked up with having a 40 mil budget for a friggin slasher. F13th 2009 was pushing it already with a 19m budget, but 40 was ridiculous.
 
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Spine_Ripper

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I just wanted to see a winter themed Friday. Still remember seeing Friday 09 on opening night. The whole room went nuts when the title card popped up. I want more :(
 
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Ridley327

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BattleMonkey said:
Well Scream 4 also fucked up with having a 40 mil budget for a friggin slasher. F13th 2009 was pushing it already with a 19m budget, but 40 was ridiculous.
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I know that Neve, Courtney and David are the faces of the franchise, but they would have saved so much money if they just did a fresh start, or maybe stick to having just one of them in the elder statesman role before getting their long overdue gutting. You could make at least four other horror films on that budget.
 
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Fancyarcher

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Not surprised. It's been in development for so long it was bound to get the axe or something else similar was going to happen. Guess this mean it's probably the end of Jason, for the time being anyway.

DeathoftheEndless said:
As much as I enjoy the franchise, it's a product of its time. It wouldn't be the same made today and audiences don't care about slashers anymore.
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The last FT13 opened pretty big actually. Shame it was largely "boring" though.
 
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