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Jeff Grubb: Hermen Hulst is now the man running Bungie, dev will lose it's autonomy
mansoor1980
Member
dude was a bungie fanboy all along
Topher
Gold Member
There is a difference between a PS studio reporting to the PS CEO and the PS CEO "running" the studio.
Mownoc
Member
Until now a PlayStation head wasn't in charge.... So.... They had autonomy as part of the acquisition deal which they have now lost due to poor performance.
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Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
Meeting #1:
So ... how do you guys feel about dinosaurs?
So ... how do you guys feel about dinosaurs?
iamvin22
Industry Verified
Exactly. He was their boss from the jump.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
I can 100% guarantee that neither of the PS CEOs are “running” Bungie any more hands on than they do other studios.
My guess is they would have lost that over time regardless. Playstation needing to save them after acquisition only sped it up.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
They had an independent board of directors, they were making their own decisions.
It was likely either a 2 year times deal (2 year anniversary was the 15th of July), or based on profitability that allowed Sony to fully take over.
MDSLKTR
Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Bungie has been trash for 10 years. Maybe sony can help them refocus their efforts into creating Halo caliber game. Destiny quite frankly sucks ass.
Topher
Gold Member
Eh....no idea how you would know that, but that's what Grubb is implying here.
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
I have no reason for this scenario other than to ruin my own day but I pictured him giving Returnal to Bungie to make an online MP only sequel.
begotten
Member
Reading everything it sounds like good news to me, especially since Bungie leadership was fucked.
Some layoffs were made, but people have been reallocated within SIE AND there is a team & project being spawned off Bungie, for a game that might not have seen the light between the juggling of Destiny & Marathon and whatever the hell else.
Some layoffs were made, but people have been reallocated within SIE AND there is a team & project being spawned off Bungie, for a game that might not have seen the light between the juggling of Destiny & Marathon and whatever the hell else.
AltogetherAndrews
Member
I’m not sure I think Hulst has proven himself in his current role. Granted that Bungie probably needs a shake-up at the top, but this guy?
AltogetherAndrews
Member
I have no reason for this scenario other than to ruin my own day but I pictured him giving Returnal to Bungie to make an online MP only sequel.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Truthtellers
Neo Member
Fantastic news.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
They weren’t “running” Bungie at all before. That’s the change.
SportsFan581
Member
I'd bet on the latter there. There were reports swirling that the previous round of cuts was an effort to keep the numbers in check to avoid specifically this outcome. With Destiny losing some steam (in terms of profitability) and nothing ready to take its place, maybe they couldn't hit the numbers they needed.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
It was too late 6-7 years ago and there's no way to save this sinking ship unless they'll cancel all their BS GaaS shit and make a new Killzone or reboot it at the very least.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
He wasn’t before. The purchase stipulated that Bungie had autonomy as long as they hit financial metrics that presumably they did not hit with the past two expansions.
Švejk
Banned
Use Bungie to make a new single player Killzone campaign? I'd be down for that.
The whole plan was for talent retention. They're already starting that by splitting a group into a new SIE studio already developing a new IP along with shifting personnel to SIE. They need games and this is the way. Destiny is shuttering down and I have a feeling Marathon is gearing up for a 2025 release so I fear the COVID cuts are happening.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Yeah I’m guessing a combo of the 2 concepts, the 2 year mark was hit and they had some metrics they had to hit to maintain their independence.
NickFire
Member
Yup.
Bungie Devs Say Atmosphere Is ‘Soul-Crushing’ Amid Layoffs, Cuts, and Fear of Total Sony Takeover - IGN
One month after a major round of layoffs impacted roughly 100 Bungie employees of 1,200, those remaining at the Destiny developer say the cuts, as well as other cost-cutting measures, came alongside an apparent scramble by studio leadership to avoid a total Sony takeover.
If Sony didn't act like a bag of dicks and increase price of online access, I'd almost feel bad for Sony in all this. Imagine spending billions to buy a VIDEOGAME company, seeing the profits trend the wrong way, and also seeing one of the ideas to right the ship was "reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly." Ouch.
Moriarty1889
Member
Get ready for multiple Horizon projects from two studios now.
nial
Member
Yes, because they reported to Jim Ryan, and now they report to Hermen Hulst once he became the Studio Business Group CEO in June.
Jeff Grubb, once again, knows nothing new.
Badlucktroll
Gold Member
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Well that’s what every company does when they go into the red, particularly when interest rates are so high so loans are basically out of the question.Yup.
Bungie Devs Say Atmosphere Is ‘Soul-Crushing’ Amid Layoffs, Cuts, and Fear of Total Sony Takeover - IGN
One month after a major round of layoffs impacted roughly 100 Bungie employees of 1,200, those remaining at the Destiny developer say the cuts, as well as other cost-cutting measures, came alongside an apparent scramble by studio leadership to avoid a total Sony takeover.www.ign.com
If Sony didn't act like a bag of dicks and increase price of online access, I'd almost feel bad for Sony in all this. Imagine spending billions to buy a VIDEOGAME company, seeing the profits trend the wrong way, and also seeing one of the ideas to right the ship was "reducing numerous morale events such as cooking and knitting classes from monthly to quarterly." Ouch.
ChorizoPicozo
Gold Member
Hermen is a Boss. don't disrespect.
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Cuz that's where they were best at doring X360 era and before this BS Destiny was even a thing.
We don't even need to worry about that they'll fuck it up cuz their FPS design skills are one of the best in the industry, so they'll nail that part like it's nothing. As for the story and everything else.... well, Idk. I think they need to go back before the first Killzone and show wtf happened in more detail cuz, I mean, 2 and 3 have great SP campaigns and there's no point in remaking them, so a prequel trilogy I think is the right thing to do here.
If Sony will be smart for once, they'll cancel the goddamn GaaS Marathon nobody asked for and focus on what I just said. It is literally the only way they can save Bungie (if they even want to) and inject new life into them, cuz the way I see it, they are dead otherwise.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
This is reductionist. It’s not as simple as an org chart
Sony will reportedly take over Bungie if it doesn't meet financial targets
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Member
Ugh, he's gonna put more masculine white women in their games isn't he.
I... Think I'm out
I... Think I'm out
Pegasus Actual
Gold Member
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Killzone integration baby!
