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[TrackZ]

I've been gaming since just before the original NES on every console along the way, but have weaved in and out of PC multiple times. Sometimes for PC-specific stuff like WoW, but I've been working the last years to have a dedicated gaming PC in a living room/home theater environment. The linked video is the culmination of how I'm running it right now. There are other videos about this concept on the channel as well.

It works, and quite well in many respects. Having a method to turn the PC off and boot up each time I used it really helped with video and audio issues. I've long fought the buzzing noise the PC introduces as well, but the hum extractor/ground lifter worked to control it. Controller reliability is better now with the long range Bluetooth antenna, but it'll never be 100% in another room and direct connecting sticks for fighters is a pain. It is a hassle when we get the family of four to sit down and play a game, and then something goes wonky and interrupts the session. I only use the PC in the living room as using it in my dedicated theater room brings in a whole different set of hassles, and there's no good way to have the single PC server both zones without more configuration pain.

I've dealt with it because console fidelity and performance has underwhelmed for a long time now. I've long been a proponent of just wanting a $1k super-power console. I am buying a PS5 Pro to try again, and if we can get close enough fidelity and performance with good feelings about PSSR delivering in the long run, I'm inclined to switch back for all the convenience and integration reasons. My son will also be at a point soon enough where will we want to play games together requiring two systems, and I'm not building a 2nd PC. I use a MacBook as my personal computer, so I have no desire for an office PC.

EDIT: I should add that I'm primarily a controller player and generally play more console-type games. So no need for mouse/keyboard for me. I like Sony first-party stuff as well, and getting in to my upper 40s am growing impatient to wait 1 - 2 years for big new games. "Consolized" PC gaming has honestly never been better, but it still is not a console.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

Love PC gaming, but I decided to come to consoles because of the state of gaming on PC are nowadays.

Shader compilation stutters, shader cache, high GPU prices, bad ports, windows going bad.

Windows 11 is a point of contention for me, I'm using Fedora 40 for six months now, and I'm quite enjoying the experience so far, gaming on Linux also impressed me, the performance is similar or in certain cases better on Linux. Shader compilation times are still an annoyance, but shader cache stutters are improved over windows thanks to the pre-cache feature on steam for Linux.

I'm entertaining the thought of building a mini-pc for my living room, using Linux. I love emulation and that is one aspect where I miss PC the most.

As for the PS5, I think it is so easy, fast and hassle-free to play on it. There is no friction, everything works flawless 99% of the time in my experience. The cons are: Paying for online multiplayer sucks, Game prices are higher than PC, closed platform means no emulation, no homebrew, no mods and no translations.

 

[captainpat]

Because it's a pointless jump to most people. Both platforms share 99% the same library and the games already look good enough on ps5.

If you're comfortable with you're gaming situation on either platform there isn't really a point to jumping to the other one.

 

[Shodai]

Steam Big Picture + Sunshine on PC with Moonlight + Xbox controller, all over ethernet to a big OLED in my living room with a sound system. That was a "well this is awesome" moment.

 

[Parazels]

The console vs PC debate gets more interesting as the cost of consoles go up.

The most popular console in the world costs $200-350, depending on a version (Lite, Base, OLED).

PS5 PRO is the most premium gaming device in the world, it can't be cheap by default.

By the way, PS5 DE in 2020 cost $100 less (!),
than Xbox One in 2013.

 

[Games of Today]

I play on consoles and PC and have to admit I just kind of shake my head when I see people here saying PC is as easy to game on as console

Still a pretty big gulf of ease of use for the super casual gamer who wants to sit down on the couch after pulling a 12 hour shift and pick up the controller and jump right into playing their favorite game.

Dude PC's makes me so angry sometimes. You can have the perfect build and it can just randomly fuck you at any moment. I tried for two nights in a row, browsing reddit etc. to find a solution. Even had to go on the Fortnite sub, a game that I don't even play. Still haven't figured it out.

 

[BlackTron]

The most popular console in the world costs $200-350, depending on a version (Lite, Base, OLED).

PS5 PRO is the most premium gaming device in the world, it can't be cheap by default.

By the way, PS5 DE in 2020 cost $100 less, than Xbox One X in 2017.

So you didn't read the rest of my post and quoted one tiny snippet

 

[cormack12]

You could just do AV over IP and stream the games or get to a box that has steam OS which is managed by a controller. Not for the mainstream but it’s possible for set ups.

All in all it is superior in power and choice, the ability to choose what you want out of a game and the customisation. (Until the game is poorly optimised or have driver problems) Consoles are convenient and do the job that they are meant for. Remember it’s PC - personal computer.

Yeah totally. At that point though I'd be asking why not sub to Geforce Now for 3/4 years personally.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Dude PC's makes me so angry sometimes. You can have the perfect build and it can just randomly fuck you at any moment. I tried for two nights in a row, browsing reddit etc. to find a solution. Even had to go on the Fortnite sub, a game that I don't even play. Still haven't figured it out.

Maybe all in my head but one of my PCs seems to have good days and bad days.

Some days it feels its running great then others not so much

And yes they can be very annoying

 

[Games of Today]

Maybe all in my head but one of my PCs seems to have good days and bad days.

Some days it feels its running great then others not so much

And yes they can be very annoying

They definitely do that sometimes. Though since building what is basically the perfect PC, I don't have any issues with the way it runs, rather I have issues with whether it just decides to fuck me and not boot up a game at all lmao.

 

[mayham2199]

Easiest antitrust lawsuit of all time.

How is that antitrust? Steam has tons of competitors. GOG, Xbox/Windows store, Epic store, Blizzard store, Mihoyo only has one of their games on there. Escape from Tarkov isn't on there.

 

[Astray]

How is that antitrust? Steam has tons of competitors. GOG, Xbox/Windows store, Epic store, Blizzard store, Mihoyo only has one of their games on there. Escape from Tarkov isn't on there.

Using your dominant market position to force competitors to abandon plans for their own storefronts or even minimize them is a flagrantly anticompetitive move.

This is also the reason why Valve allows keys to be generated and sold on key sites without taking a cut, if they charge there or disallow the practice then they risk antitrust scrutiny too.

 

[Fess]

I'm not going to start taking these guys seriously until they start including at least a kb/m in their builds.

Going by the title this thread is skipping the cost issue and ask those who can afford PC gaming why they still stick to consoles. Nobody without cash issues is going to be concerned about $75 extra. Or try to build a PC at the price of a console. That whole thing is just a dumb versus scenario that DF Alex is obsessed about which nobody in real life actually care about.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Even if cost were the same I still wouldn’t switch

I’ve tried PlayStation, Nintendo, PC and Xbox and only PlayStation and Nintendo have consistently managed to keep me engaged over the decades.

I do use my old MacBook for some emulator stuff, but it’s very rare.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Going by the title this thread is skipping the cost issue and ask those who can afford PC gaming why they still stick to consoles. Nobody without cash issues is going to be concerned about $75 extra. Or try to build a PC at the price of a console. That whole thing is just a dumb versus scenario that DF Alex is obsessed about which nobody in real life actually care about.

That's the problem with the whole conversation.

You have people who have no problem affording high end PCs who are peddling lies to people who don't know better into thinking that PC is a legitimate avenue for the budget minded.

Why are they doing it? Because while they don't actually care about the experiences of people with lesser rigs than them, they don't want to see a diminished PC market.

 

[mayham2199]

Using your dominant market position to force competitors to abandon plans for their own storefronts or even minimize them is a flagrantly anticompetitive move.

Isn't this exactly how both consoles are setup though? So wouldn't both PS and MS be flagrantly anticompetitive?

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Isn't this exactly how both consoles are setup though? So wouldn't both PS and MS be flagrantly anticompetitive?

Except you're ignoring the fact that Sony and Microsoft are in competition on the hardware level and there is still competition from physical retail...

Apples and oranges situation with Steam.

 

[Fess]

That's the problem with the whole conversation.

You have people who have no problem affording high end PCs who are peddling lies to people who don't know better into thinking that PC is a legitimate avenue for the budget minded.

Why are they doing it? Because while they don't actually care about the experiences of people with lesser rigs than them, they don't want to see a diminished PC market.

That’s why this thread is important. There are already threads where people try to build a gaming PC for the price of a PS5 Pro.
For me that’s only a thought experiment, I don’t see it as something anybody truly into PC gaming would actually do and certainly not be satisfied with.

This thread is asking those who could afford PC gaming - why are you still sticking with consoles?

Then it should be about something else. And going by the talk it seems like it’s either about: 1. Having bad experiences in the past when things were truly bad - and not knowing how much things has improved.
Or 2. Not wanting to sit by a desk and play with mouse and keyboard - and not knowing that you can plug it into the TV and use a controller like a console.

And a diminished PC market at this point isn’t something anybody is concerned about. Things hasn’t been better, at least if you like Steam. 99% of all multiplats are on Steam. Xbox games are on Steam. Playstation games are coming to Steam. Ubisoft is coming to Steam. Gamepass games can be launched in Steam. There is Steam Deck. SteamOS is coming to ROG Ally. Steam big picture mode is super stable. Steam is no1 for early access. No online paywalls. Free cloud storage. Etc.

A dark future could be Steam having a monopoly and a greedy person taking over after Gabe.
But things could also just keep on getting better.
Glass half full and all that

But I’m the first to verify that PC gaming can be extremely expensive. No dodging that here. It can be brutal.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

That’s why this thread is important. There are already threads where people try to build a gaming PC for the price of a PS5 Pro.
For me that’s only a thought experiment, I don’t see it as something anybody truly into PC gaming would actually do and certainly not be satisfied with.

This thread is asking those who could afford PC gaming - why are you still sticking with consoles?

Then it should be about something else. And going by the talk it seems like it’s either about: 1. Having bad experiences in the past when things were truly bad - and not knowing how much things has improved.
Or 2. Not wanting to sit by a desk and play with mouse and keyboard - and not knowing that you can plug it into the TV and use a controller like a console.

And a diminished PC market at this point isn’t something anybody is concerned about. Things hasn’t been better, at least if you like Steam. 99% of all multiplats are on Steam. Xbox games are on Steam. Playstation games are coming to Steam. Ubisoft is coming to Steam. Gamepass games can be launched in Steam. There is Steam Deck. SteamOS is coming to ROG Ally. Steam big picture mode is super stable. Steam is no1 for early access. No online paywalls. Free cloud storage. Etc.

A dark future could be Steam having a monopoly and a greedy person taking over after Gabe.
But things could also just keep on getting better.
Glass half full and all that

But I’m the first to verify that PC gaming can be extremely expensive. No dodging that here. It can be brutal.

Let's not ignore the real reason why this thread exists, it's because Jez is trying to do market research for Microsoft as to why people are choosing PlayStation over PC and why people might choose PS5 Pro over PC in particular.

 

[Radical_3d]

1. Having bad experiences in the past when things were truly bad - and not knowing how much things has improved.
Or 2. Not wanting to sit by a desk and play with mouse and keyboard - and not knowing that you can plug it into the TV and use a controller like a console.

Low quality argumentation.
1.- Having bad experience in the present, acknowledging that things have improved but are still a pain in the ass.
Or 2.- Not wanting to plug a PC into the TV and then update your drivers and then ow fuck this isn’t working. Why the letters are so tiny? Why is not getting the resolution properly? The Bluetooth/wifi/HDR isn’t working properly…

And you can try to deny as much as you want but there are enough PC users in the console side to tell the story, so you’re just fooling yourself.

The thing is that PCMR has a different threshold for what they consider a chore and refuses to acknowledge that other people have other priorities. As a tech savvy guy in my circle I even got asked to program the channels of a smart TV. Go tell a person like that to download the most recent drivers from nVidia’s nightmarish page.

 

[Bond007]

Its just annoying- building, hassle of it running how it needs to with out problems- its a pc at the end of the day. Anything can happen, no matter what anyone says.
For a fraction of the price i can run the same shit hassle free elsewhere. I'm not knocking PC- its just the way it is. PC has it benefits obviously - but to me the hassle and lack of physical will deter me as a primary home to game.

Console gaming is like Apple to me - it just works and has what i need.
PC is Android. Sure its potentially more powerful and all this and that- but it doesnt always hit or work. Its open and free though

Atleast thats how i see it in my head lol

 

[kevm3]

Because it's just more convenient and most of my friends game on console anyways. Sure, some games have cross-play, but others don't. It also sucks when having to try to pair the controller to the PC all the time. It also sucks when your hardware is no longer good enough and you have to go hunting for upgrades to get back on the decent performance treadmill.

PC used to have steam sales that spanked whatever was on consoles. Over time, steam sales became less generous and console sales become more, so PC no longer had that advantage of getting games dirt cheap vs consoles.

A lot of games on PC have poor optimization, so while they do look better, they don't look THAT much better for the level of hardware that you have in your PC.

Modding was better in my mind than actual reality. I thought about all the cool stuff I could mod in, but the reality was, I didn't enjoy most mods that much. A lot of times, the art style of some of these graphics mods clash with the art style of the original game and look to be done moreso by technologists than artists.

I just prefer to turn on a console and play. I feel like the cheap game advantage no longer exists to the extent it did and the graphical improvement I'm getting is not significant enough in most games for me to care about having to deal with games crashing more often, having the latest drivers, etc. Wireless controller pairing is also a bit more effort on pc.

 

[Alebrije]

My son left me his Old laptop gamer so I use it basically for internet and office.

The laptop is a MSI Bravo 17 ryzen 7 Radeon 5500M. So due this thread I decided to install Steam on it.

First try was The first descendant , downloaded it and the first stuff asked was Dll 12 so had to update it, then the Game was opening ans suddently asked for Something called "allow stream preferentes Steam M1" no matter if I allowed or not Game stoped. after 30 minutes trying to find solution not found one SO deleted the game ( it seems it's a common trouble since a Lot of people has it)

Second try was Overwarch 2 , downloaded fine , no problem opening and boom You need yo subscribe to some place to be allowed to play,
Well tryed the QR code thinking it Will automatically subscribe with My Steam account data but not , needed to fill some information. Decided to delete te game

So after almost 1 hours after installed Steam I was getting tired but tried with a Game called Dark and Darker

Finally in opened and could play some minutes, but never get used to mouse+key board SO Will install a Xbox control later.

So after almost 15 years no trying to play on PC I can confirm the experience has not changed, You need Time and patience on some games, and also knowledge.

Will keep playing on consoles, they are your best friend for gaming.

 

[Fess]

Let's not ignore the real reason why this thread exists, it's because Jez is trying to do market research for Microsoft as to why people are choosing PlayStation over PC and why people might choose PS5 Pro over PC in particular.

No let’s ignore that, including ignoring the reason why core Playstation fans don’t like PC this generation. Bias shows in 0.5 sec. Don’t waste your time on that and the talk can still become interesting. And removing the obvious barriers gets us closer to the core on why we choose one thing over another. Maybe there is no logic reason. Maybe there is an extremely valid reason. I think it’s interesting.

And removing the cost barrier on PC gaming is brilliant since it is the constant elephant in the room.
I paid $2500 for my graphics card. Was it worth the money? Of course not. But I would still do it again and I regret I didn’t do it on my other PC too. $2500 or $1500. Big deal, it’s expensive and also expensive.

 

[MacReady13]

Every time someone mentions the cost of a gaming PC, you know is coming from someone that never owned or even care about owning a gaming PC. If you are comfortable with a worst, yet easier to setup experience, that's fine. Consoles have come a long way. Just don't try to justify yourself because you sound dumb.

I own a gaming PC and I am telling you that the cost associated with a good gaming PC is bullshit and prohibitive. The troubleshooting is insane at times too. And it is a fucking pain in the ass to own a 14700k CPU and have to update the BIOS numerous times because the CPU might not work anymore cause Intel are fucked. Now what issues like that do I have on my PS5...? Funniest and saddest thing is, that same CPU cost almost the exact same amount as my PS5!

So please, with all due respect, don't tell me or anyone else exactly what and why our feelings towards PC gaming should not allign with yours.

 

[LectureMaster]

The troubleshooting is insane at times too.

That's my main gripe with PC. This is especially common with games that not too new, but not old enough to have dedicated retro community. I actually enjoy troubleshooting and getting things resolved. But it did eat up my actual play time.

 

[MacReady13]

And removing the cost barrier on PC gaming

No how about we DON'T remove the cost barrier, cause that is the reason MANY people will not get a gaming PC! A 4090 can cost around $3000 in Australia! How is that not an issue when considering what to buy and play your games on? And let's take it down a notch and go a 4070, which still costs around $850! For a fucking graphics card! It costs more than a console! Maybe you can justify it but I'm telling you, many would strongly disagree.

 

[Fess]

Low quality argumentation.
1.- Having bad experience in the present, acknowledging that things have improved but are still a pain in the ass.
Or 2.- Not wanting to plug a PC into the TV and then update your drivers and then ow fuck this isn’t working. Why the letters are so tiny? Why is not getting the resolution properly? The Bluetooth/wifi/HDR isn’t working properly…

And you can try to deny as much as you want but there are enough PC users in the console side to tell the story, so you’re just fooling yourself.

The thing is that PCMR has a different threshold for what they consider a chore and refuses to acknowledge that other people have other priorities. As a tech savvy guy in my circle I even got asked to program the channels of a smart TV. Go tell a person like that to download the most recent drivers from nVidia’s nightmarish page.

Don’t know what to say but it’s not a blind denial I just think the user experience is super stable now.
If I think back over a couple months then these are the issues:
Steam Deck OLED has got stuck on a black screen when starting Elden Ring, had to restart the device. Trials Rising on Ubisoft didn’t start through Steam. The Takeover had lacking controller support, but an overlay using Xbox+stick and RB to click accept once fixed it. Otherwise everything has truly just worked. Power on, start game, play, exit game, power off, rinse and repeat day after day.

 

[Yoboman]

I hate settings management. If a game is even marginally off in performance on PC I spend major chunks of time just fiddling with settings until I am unhappy with all of the options.

My experiences with PC have also been that games are far bigger and crashes far more frequent

Even on console I hate the decision between performance and quality modes. Just feels like I am missing out on one or the other

Take the decision out of my hands and it's not an issue

So any mid range PC is out of the question I would need to brute force with a PC that is 4 times the price

 

[mayham2199]

That's my main gripe with PC. This is especially common with games that not too new, but not old enough to have dedicated retro community. I actually enjoy troubleshooting and getting things resolved. But it did eat up my actual play time.

I work in IT tsing issues so for me it can get personal. Arkham City would not work for me. I spent most of my day trying to fix it. A full reinstall of windows was the only fix I found. Even though the error had plenty of post everywhere of people dealing with it but none of the fixes worked except a reinstall. The worst part is I played it for a bit and decided I didn't want to play it anymore and then updating my drivers broke it again with the same error.

Ultimately my controller disconnecting periodically broke me. Then one big picture mode update broke achievement notifications and I'm big on achievements so this really pissed me off.

 

[LectureMaster]

I work in IT tsing issues so for me it can get personal. Arkham City would not work for me. I spent most of my day trying to fix it. A full reinstall of windows was the only fix I found. Even though the error had plenty of post everywhere of people dealing with it but none of the fixes worked except a reinstall. The worst part is I played it for a bit and decided I didn't want to play it anymore and then updating my drivers broke it again with the same error.

Ultimately my controller disconnecting periodically broke me. Then one big picture mode update broke achievement notifications and I'm big on achievements so this really pissed me off.

You are not alone my man, I had pretty much similar issues with those early mid 2010 games, Ori 1, for instance.

I totally agree PC can offer the latest and greatest experience with advanced tech, but it's not without its own issues. Folks should at least acknowledge that when recommending the platform.

 

[Fess]

No how about we DON'T remove the cost barrier, cause that is the reason MANY people will not get a gaming PC! A 4090 can cost around $3000 in Australia! How is that not an issue when considering what to buy and play your games on? And let's take it down a notch and go a 4070, which still costs around $850! For a fucking graphics card! It costs more than a console! Maybe you can justify it but I'm telling you, many would strongly disagree.

It IS an issue for most of us but THIS thread is about theoretically not having a cost barrier and asking people if they’re still not interested.

To me that’s an interesting topic. Like I didn’t plan to get PS5 Pro but the Nvidia stock had a rush and suddenly I’m waiting for it to arrive.
If you’re an enthusiast and you can afford something that could improve your gaming experience, would you still skip it? Why? I think it’s a great question.

And there are plenty of threads already where cost is the main topic. I’ve been there moaning as well.

 

[Radical_3d]

Don’t know what to say but it’s not a blind denial I just think the user experience is super stable now.
If I think back over a couple months then these are the issues:
Steam Deck OLED has got stuck on a black screen when starting Elden Ring, had to restart the device. Trials Rising on Ubisoft didn’t start through Steam. The Takeover had lacking controller support, but an overlay using Xbox+stick and RB to click accept once fixed it. Otherwise everything has truly just worked. Power on, start game, play, exit game, power off, rinse and repeat day after day.

Ok. Can anybody who reads this quote me with the problems on their consoles in the last couple of months?
I’ll start: none.

 

[Crayon]

Ok. Can anybody who reads this quote me with the problems on their consoles in the last couple of months?
I’ll start: none.

Back when GT7 came out, I found that it didn't want to play off of my add-in ssd. Seemed to be semi-common. That's the only pc-like (hmmm, what could it be... Maybe I'll try this? Oh that didn't work. Maybe this?) issue I've had.

My linux pc is pretty bulletproof but in the last year I've had a few things. A power supply that wasn't very old started causing those mysterious problems you get from a bad one. Should have known to check that bastard first. Had to do some investigation to get a switch controller to stop disconnecting. DS5 still disconnects on one game in particular every 4-5 hours. Lightning returns didn't start at all, prompting a refund. Something is up with big picture mode where is rapidly builds up input lag and is so bad after a couple minutes that I can hardly get to the exit option. All minor, but typical pc-like things.

 

[Radical_3d]

Can anybody who reads this quote me with the problems on their consoles in the last couple of months?

Back when GT7 came out

 

[Crayon]

Well that's how far I had to go back for a console issue! >:O

 

[Redeeming Casualty]

I have grown up with consoles and the convince of plugging them in and turning and just going to play is mainly what I like about consoles gaming along with each consoles unique libraries that show off their personality. I had a computer growing up to play pc games and never understood having to constantly upgrade your rig or drivers and whatever technical voodoo you have to do to get games running properly. I personally thought it was a pain in the ass mostly. I also like to keep my video games and computer separate because I mainly work on a computer. I recently have played some old PC games but getting them to run a iMac has been a pain in the butt also, but its been worth it so I can play Half Life and Diablo 1. Other than that I have so many consoles games at this point moving to an entirely new platform is something I really just don't care to do personally.

 

[mayham2199]

I totally agree PC can offer the latest and greatest experience with advanced tech, but it's not without its own issues.

Yep when games worked on PC man is it a great experience but it's not worth the rest of the issues. My game time is so limited as it is that even 10 mins of having to mess around with something gets very annoying.

Ok. Can anybody who reads this quote me with the problems on their consoles in the last couple of months?
I’ll start: none.

I had one recently with that Throne and Liberty game not letting me log back in because I closed out of it during an instance. That's the only thing this whole year. The funny thing is as it happened I just started thinking "man this is like the shit on PC".

 

[mckmas8808]

Ok. Can anybody who reads this quote me with the problems on their consoles in the last couple of months?
I’ll start: none.

I've had none also. Well.......one. I couldn't get onto PSN for 1.5 days when Playstation Network had that brief outage lol

 

[Radical_3d]

Steam Deck OLED has got stuck on a black screen when starting Elden Ring, had to restart the device. Trials Rising on Ubisoft didn’t start through Steam. The Takeover had lacking controller support, but an overlay using Xbox+stick and RB to click accept once fixed it. Otherwise everything has truly just worked. Power on, start game, play, exit game, power off, rinse and repeat day after day.

So…

I’ll start: none.

Well that's how far I had to go back for a console issue! >:O

I had one recently with that Throne and Liberty game not letting me log back in because I closed out of it during an instance. That's the only thing this whole year. The funny thing is as it happened I just started thinking "man this is like the shit on PC".

I've had none also. Well.......one. I couldn't get onto PSN for 1.5 days when Playstation Network had that brief outage lol

Your experience has been worst in the last two months than literally 4 other people combined. I know there is something beautiful about tinkering. I earn my wage with computers. But PC is monstrous compared with console. You’re stuck with Windows which is another kind of monster itself. And yes, it’s been better. But this isn’t an experience for everyone. Or some people all the time.

 

[deriks]

Primary because I see my PC as a work tool, not for gaming

But at the same time, when I buy a console, it's dedicated to gaming and I don't want to worry about specs or any weird updates that can fuck or not my machine. I just want to turn the console on and play my shit with a stable level of quality

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Back when GT7 came out, I found that it didn't want to play off of my add-in ssd. Seemed to be semi-common. That's the only pc-like (hmmm, what could it be... Maybe I'll try this? Oh that didn't work. Maybe this?) issue I've had.

My linux pc is pretty bulletproof but in the last year I've had a few things. A power supply that wasn't very old started causing those mysterious problems you get from a bad one. Should have known to check that bastard first. Had to do some investigation to get a switch controller to stop disconnecting. DS5 still disconnects on one game in particular every 4-5 hours. Lightning returns didn't start at all, prompting a refund. Something is up with big picture mode where is rapidly builds up input lag and is so bad after a couple minutes that I can hardly get to the exit option. All minor, but typical pc-like things.

What SSD did you buy?

 

[Crayon]

What SSD did you buy?

Can't remember the name. It was recommended on here. I know the heat sink actually looks like it was styled to match the ps5, and that sony is somehow invested in the company.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Can't remember the name. It was recommended on here. I know the heat sink actually looks like it was styled to match the ps5, and that sony is somehow invested in the company.

Nextorage?

 

[Crayon]

Nextorage?

Yes!! That let me search it up in my email. 7300MB/s.

 

[ArtHands]

Agree with you guys regarding the continuous diminish reasons to stay on consoles in the future, especially with what has transpired in the past few years.

 

[Wingnut]

Oh there a many reasons.

- I don’t want to hazzle around with hardware components
- I don’t want to work with many different launchers
- I don’t want to have anything from windows in my household
- I care about power consumption
- I just want to play games on my couch

 

[EDMIX]

I rock the PS, Nintendo and PC combo and I want to make clear, its not about money.

The most expensive hardware I own are those gaming PCs lol I did like 3 fucking builds last year, 6950XT build for my sister (who also games), a 4090 build for work (but also games) ,but also built a form factor build cause I really liked the one I did for my sister earlier that year and the 6950XT is pretty beast and silent lol

regardless, its not a money thing, I love gaming on PC still as lots of titles I still prefer on PC, like The Sims, Company Of Heros, CRPGs etc but I'll buy PS5 Pro next year, I buy Switch 2 next year, I'll PS6 day 1 etc

I still like what Sony and Nintendo put out, I still like the titles that release on those platforms that I grew up playing, so I still play FF on PS, Tekken, Metal Gear Solid etc, just cause they release on PC, doesn't mean that is the place I want to play those games

I also want to just effortless pick up and play, I don't feel like going thru some fucking workaround for some Vsync issue, I don't feel like going on Steam, Tom's Hardware etc to just play a fuckign game, I don't wish to have to do that with my entire gaming set up, thus I still own and will forever still buy consoles

I don't give a fuck what anyone says, just cause you CAN plug in a controller like PS5, plug it in to a TV, doesn't mean you are getting the exact same experience, in fact to even fucking game that same thing, you have to do a series of workarounds that sound so annoying, it doesn't even sound worth it, as that controller support isn't some 100% plug in play thing, connecting on a tv can some times have latency issues (although its much better today then generations prior)

I'd just rather have all options.

The main reason of course is convenience. I never worry about playing a game day 1 if it will work. The only time that was ever an issue was also with the most refunded game in history with CP2077 lol

That brings me to my next issue with PC gaming, it doesn't have a solid standard like you get with MS, Sony, Nintendo etc, they have their process to have games be allowed on their platform, with PC that shit is the wild west, if a game releases broken, you don't know if its just bad developers or your card or CPU, ram issue you don't fucking know, then you have compare notes with everyone annnnnnnnd turns out developer is on crack lol

That process is much faster on PSN, XBL and Nintendo online......it gets removed if it even is allowed on in the first place.