Jian Gomeshi arrested for sexual assault and choking. Lawsuit against CBC dropped.

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Kifimbo said:
So, Thursday a lawyer showed CBC management texts messages, e-mails and photos of Gomeshi's sexual encounters. And the CBC didn't fire him on Friday.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...cs-decision-to-fire-ghomeshi/article21396998/
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I can only hope that it's because the texts, e-mails and photos didn't show clear proof of non-consent because otherwise the CBC is fucked.

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Actually, you know what, they waited two days and it was probably for legal reasons so they could get their house in order.
 
Kifimbo said:
So, Thursday a lawyer for Mr Ghomeshi showed CBC management texts messages, e-mails and photos of Gomeshi's sexual encounters. And the CBC didn't fire him on Friday.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...cs-decision-to-fire-ghomeshi/article21396998/
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Hold up, I don't think the two executives on Friday had the power to fire him and, to be fair, the lawyer worked for Ghomeshi who presumably provided the most sanitized texts, emails, photos available
On Sunday, Mr. Ghomeshi released a statement, writing, “I have been open with the CBC” since the allegations “ramped up.” But sources with knowledge of the situation say during the spring, and in intermittent discussions throughout the summer about how to respond should allegations go public, his accounts to the CBC were relatively unspecific, even as executives asked pointed questions.

For the time being, the CBC was prepared to stand by him, according to sources with knowledge of the situation. Senior people at the broadcaster had long relationships with Mr. Ghomeshi, he had seemed open, his personal life was sensitive territory, and he was one of the public broadcaster’s biggest stars.
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The popular host of the hit radio show Q with Jian Ghomeshi had been summoned to a meeting with his employer, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, away from its Toronto headquarters and inquisitive staff. Two days earlier, on Friday, he had been placed on indefinite leave, to the surprise and mystification of his legions of admirers.

The meeting on Thursday, Oct. 23, was prompted in part by growing concern among Mr. Ghomeshi and his advisers that a journalist might be preparing to publish allegations of non-consensual and abusive sexual encounters, according to sources. Mr. Ghomeshi’s lawyers, who had been in discussion with the CBC for months, had evidence they believed would prove Mr. Ghomeshi’s sexual partners had consented.

Executives at the CBC, who had long accepted Mr. Ghomeshi’s account, asked to see the detailed evidence. According to sources with knowledge of the exchange, Mr. Ghomeshi’s camp agreed, and a meeting was arranged for Thursday.

At that meeting, a lawyer for Mr. Ghomeshi presented two people from CBC management with texts, e-mails and photos of the radio host’s sexual encounters. The evidence was intended to demonstrate consent, a point Mr. Ghomeshi would later stress in a statement: “Everything I have done has been consensual.”

But the CBC managers were taken aback, and their views on Mr. Ghomeshi’s conduct changed instantly. What they saw, in their opinions, was far more aggressive and physical than anything they had been led to believe during months of discussions.

Although Mr. Ghomeshi wrote in his statement that the CBC agreed “there was consent,” sources suggested CBC officials were not confident in drawing that conclusion. What was certain was the corporation – a public broadcaster, heavily funded by citizens – swiftly decided it had seen evidence of conduct it could not be seen to defend, according to sources.
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Edit: beat while reading the article

Stet said:
I can only hope that it's because the texts, e-mails and photos didn't show clear proof of non-consent because otherwise the CBC is fucked.

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Actually, you know what, they waited two days and it was probably for legal reasons so they could get their house in order.
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DoctorWho said:
They waited two days?

That's not unreasonable at all.
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A lot of people, including progressive feminists, were fooled by Ghomeshi's Facebook post so I don't want to throw the CBC executives under the bus just yet. They should probably have been more proactive in independent investigating the case since his victims included cbc employees (and the power structure at the radio station protected and enabled him acquiring victims in recent years). It's not clear whether the cbc execs were put off by Ghomeshi misrepresenting the nature of his sexual violence or a lack of consent. The women who bravely came forward to tell their stories are largely to thank for bringing him down, particularly those who have done so with their otherwise I think Ghomeshi would have continued to get away with it.

Side note: is there any reports that Ghomeshi abused sex workers (I think hinted by that teddy Twitter account?) I haven't seen a newspaper take that angle yet. Might be important considering the new sex worker bill coming up?
 
Snowdrift said:
The CBC handled it responsibly. Taking 2-days to reach a decision seems reasonable for an organization as large as the CBC.
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Agreed, so far I feel that the CBC has been handling this correctly, at least for these past two weeks.
Whether producers handled previous employee’s grievances correctly is another matter, as more victims come forward.
 
Whoompthereitis said:
Is anyone still defending this guy? I'm afraid to venture into the comments sections of the articles to find out.
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The goalposts will always be moved, but the numbers standing at each set will dwindle. Unfortunately, even self-confessed rapists and murderers have their defenders and groupies.
 
Jian has spent years now cultivating an audience that is extremely against the actions he's now being accused of. He was given the benefit of the doubt to start, but public opinion seems to have swung very quickly.
 
Timeline of events:

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/10/31/jian_ghomeshi_showed_cbc_video_of_bondage_beating_sources.html?app=noRedirect

The craziest part his that Jesse Brown made an announcement that he was working on a story about the CBC that could embarrass 'certain parties', but this was in reference to his story about Glenn Greenwald and his dealings with the CBC.

Jian, having the ego that he does, believes Jesse is, in fact, talking about him, which leads him to try and preempt the story with his Facebook post. As a result, by making that post, this gives Jesse and The Star the launch pad they needed to release their story on Jian, which they had shelved because they lack enough proof to go forward earlier.

Jian Ghomenshi basically created the circumstances of his own undoing.
 
Silexx said:
Timeline of events:

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/10/31/jian_ghomeshi_showed_cbc_video_of_bondage_beating_sources.html?app=noRedirect

The craziest part his that Jesse Brown made an announcement that he was working on a story about the CBC that could embarrass 'certain parties', but this was in reference to his story about Glenn Greenwald and his dealings with the CBC.

Jian, having the ego that he does, believes Jesse is, in fact, talking about him, which leads him to try and preempt the story with his Facebook post. As a result, by making that post, this gives Jesse and The Star the launch pad they needed to release their story on Jian, which they had shelved because they lack enough proof to go forward earlier.

Jian Ghomenshi basically created the circumstances of his own undoing.
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Well, and by beating women.
 
Canadian Singer Lights Drops Jian Ghomeshi As Manager

I dunno if this was posted yet, She States:

I posted my comments about Jian Ghomeshi the day after he was dismissed by the CBC where I rushed to defend my manager of 12 years. I am now aware that my comments appear insensitive to those impacted and for that I am deeply sorry,” she wrote. “This is to confirm that as of now I will be parting ways with Jian Ghomeshi as my manager.”

“I hope everyone can heal from this.”
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The CBC also sent out a public statement over the newswire from their president, Hubert Lacroix:

As you have no doubt heard, since CBC fired radio host Jian Ghomeshi on Sunday, his lawyers have commenced legal proceedings against us. That limits what we have been able to say about the circumstances of his firing, but we will defend our action. In the meantime, there are a few things that are important for me to address.

I have always been proud of the way we at CBC/Radio-Canada represent Canadian values; the way our airwaves are a platform for the promotion of equal rights, multiculturalism, and respect. We have worked hard to cement those values in the way we operate as an organization, and the way we treat each other. As I told a parliamentary committee last year, we have a robust system of training and policy in place to try to create a safe work environment, and to investigate and respond appropriately if incidents occur. This case raises concerns that our systems have not been enough, and that upsets us deeply.

I empathize with those who have felt powerless to speak out, or who have tried to speak out and felt ignored. As the father of two young daughters, I share your frustration.

As you may have heard, we continue to look into allegations of improprieties in the workplace. We will also bring in an outside company with the specific expertise to conduct an independent investigation. We expect that the investigation will allow us to identify improvements that may be necessary to existing systems and assure a healthy work environment. The Executive Vice-President of CBC, Heather Conway, shares my commitment and determination on this. Once the investigation has concluded, we will share the recommendations regarding any improvements to our policies and procedures with our Board, our employees and with Canadians.

We are very concerned by the additional allegations that have emerged in the media since October 26, and about the impact of these events on our employees and on all Canadians. We are committed to ensuring a workplace that is free from all forms of violence and harassment.
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http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/143...-canada-regarding-the-jian-ghomeshi-situation
 
jred2k said:
stet said:
The goalposts will always be moved, but the numbers standing at each set will dwindle. Unfortunately, even self-confessed rapists and murderers have their defenders and groupies.
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Jian has spent years now cultivating an audience that is extremely against the actions he's now being accused of. He was given the benefit of the doubt to start, but public opinion seems to have swung very quickly.
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Agreed, I don't think he has the same type of rabid fanbase as a hypothetical teenage heart throb or a political figure.
 
Kifimbo said:
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Good

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt at first, but, in light of recent events, I hope this piece of shit gets fucked.

CBC made the right call, and firing him two days after seeing evidence is not unreasonable at all.

I find it hilarious that he actually has the balls to even plan to sue the CBC for $50 million after what he's done.
 
GSG Flash said:
Good

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt at first, but, in light of recent events, I hope this piece of shit gets fucked.

CBC made the right call, and firing him two days after seeing evidence is not unreasonable at all.

I find it hilarious that he actually has the balls to even plan to sue the CBC for $50 million after what he's done.
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Someone wrote something earlier mentioning his PR probably came up with the idea to sue to control the information coming out.
 
GSG Flash said:
Good

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt at first, but, in light of recent events, I hope this piece of shit gets fucked.

CBC made the right call, and firing him two days after seeing evidence is not unreasonable at all.

I find it hilarious that he actually has the balls to even plan to sue the CBC for $50 million after what he's done.
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Increased to 55 million, actually, he barely waited a day before the increase. The entire thing is laughable. I hope courts are open so we can hear how his legal team tries to get out of this.
Maybe he'll get beat around by a big dude named Teddy in prison.
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Slackbladder said:
I have absolutely no idea who this person is but I saw this on the Guardian website.
I dated Jian Ghomeshi, Canada's fallen radio star
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I’m just lucky that he never got around to doing it.
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I guess a lot of what she said in the article sheds some light on this. It was similar for all the other girls, except he managed the last stage; that's how he kept them all silent. And now the domino effect has potentially fucked him, depending on how the Toronto Police handle it that is.
 
SRG01 said:
Finally charges are being pressed.
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Charges being pressed is different from victims filing a complaint. A complaint allows the police to open an investigation and if they gather enough evidence, they can then formally press charges and have him arrested.
 
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