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Jimmy Fallon Cratering in the Ratings, Skirting Near Third Place in "Late Night Wars"

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Having seen this GIF surely a couple of thousand times now, one might think I'd have become desensitized to it, but it still makes my blood boil.
 

Joe T.

Member
Call me crazy, but I like the fact that Fallon doesn't spend all damn night talking about Trump. He's the polar opposite of Colbert. Kimmel's my happy center, not that I spend much time watching any of the late night shows these days. I miss Letterman.
 

Nokterian

Member
Seth Meyers, Trevor Noah, John Oliver ,Samantha Bee and Colbert make quality tv, they bring the facts and fun in a blending that i really like.
 

louiedog

Member
Does he do anything but music skits?

Does he still play games very poorly with celebrities where he can't help but break into laughter constantly? Those used to always bubble up in YouTube recommendations for some reason, I guess because his show was more popular, and anytime I bothered to watch because the guest was someone I liked it seemed horrible. It wasn't like he was letting the guest win or anything, it was more like he was just really bad at the creative games.
 
I feel like Seth Meyers is much more funnier than Jimmy Fallon but I guess the public doesn't agree with that opinion. That being said, I never was really a fan (he had a few nice bits eg the Nicole Kidman thing and the Breaking Bad parody) but when he tried to normalize glorious orange leader was when I said i'd never watch his show again.
 
Colbert and Kimmel aren't afraid to get political. Fallon still is for some reason.

Because he's pretty bad at it? It's not really his thing, and he really doesn't have a stake in it. The biggest reason Kimmel is getting political now and it's hitting is because he has a stake in it (health care because of what happened with his son, and then being from Las Vegas when talking about the terror attack).
 
I feel like Seth Meyers is much more funnier than Jimmy Fallon but I guess the public doesn't agree with that opinion. That being said, I never was really a fan (he had a few nice bits eg the Nicole Kidman thing and the Breaking Bad parody) but when he tried to normalize glorious orange leader was when I said i'd never watch his show again.

Seth Meyers is great. Its a shame he doesnt get as much love as he should.
 
Fallon's problem is that none of his personality shines through at all. He's constantly so neutral other than laughing at things or making a few sterile quips, you don't see any of him shine through.

The good hosts all have core aspects of their personality shine through to make themselves into characters along side their bits and guests.

Jimmy just feels like pure genericism, and maybe 20 years ago that would fly and he'd be okay, but I have quite literally limitless entertainment at my fingertips almost every minute of every day. He needs to allow himself to shine through, if there's even anything there to shine, if he wants to survive.
 
Trump aside, Fallon is a terrible interviewer. All he does is fake laugh at everything the guests say. His gimmick has always been playing games with them, but even that gets old after awhile. He gives the impression that he's trying to playing both sides to be safe, but I don't think that works given how divided america is today.
 
Fallon on any given night, and a big reason why I can't watch him.

Half of what comes out of his mouth during an interview is a compliment. You're the best, we love your new album, we love you so much, oh you're so great in so and so, we just love you here on the tonight show, I'm a huge fan, this is one of my favorite songs of all time, oh my gosh, I'm a huge gamer....Just, tone it down a bit Jimmy. I do think he is a genuinely nice person, but he is over the top where it comes off as insincere.

He seemed a completely different person with the Late Night, the gig should have gone to Conan as it was supposed to.
 

Davide

Member
I didn't make a big deal out of his Trump interview but I'm just not as interested in watching him as much as Colbert or Kimmel, and lately I've just been watching Kimmel.

I never watch Seth Moore, Trevor Noah, or John Oliver.
 
Fallon on any given night, and a big reason why I can't watch him.

Half of what comes out of his mouth during an interview is a compliment. You're the best, we love your new album, we love you so much, oh you're so great in so and so, we just love you here on the tonight show, I'm a huge fan, this is one of my favorite songs of all time, oh my gosh, I'm a huge gamer....Just, tone it down a bit Jimmy.

He needs to let himself be himself more. Stop being "generic late night talkshow host" and just be Jimmy Fallon, the weird guy who made "The Man Show" on a $500 budget.
 

Instro

Member
He doesn't strike me as a bad dude, but I feel like you could sub in any half decent presenter on his show and lose nothing. Being completely behind the curve on politics, and having nothing meaningful to add to the conversation on anything didn't/doesn't help him either.

Might as well stick car pool karaoke guy in there at this point.
 

iammeiam

Member
Call me crazy, but I like the fact that Fallon doesn't spend all damn night talking about Trump. He's the polar opposite of Colbert. Kimmel's my happy center, not that I spend much time watching any of the late night shows these days. I miss Letterman.

I think Fallon wants to be the escapist host that lets you escape from the shitshow of US politics by just not dealing with it for a night.

I don't think this works in the Trump era, though, because the Trump admin is an all-consuming waking nightmare always waiting in the wings to depress or outrage us. Escapism in the Trump admin isn't a world where politics aren't mentioned for many of us, it's just a world where the batshit insanity going on in the federal government is called out for what it is.

Fallon's approach is probably the smart middle-of-the-road one that works like 90% of the time, but the current climate has made it all but impossible to be neutral and people want catharsis.
 
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