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[Brazil]

Fallon would be a great musical-focused sidekick on someone else's Late Night show.

 

[Rival]

I don’t watch any of them very often but Jimmy Kimmel is my favorite. Fallon is corny and Colbert only talks about Trump and it just gets old to me.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

lol whatever

Colbert has blind spots just like anyone else. He though the shock humor value was more important so he went for it and he knew everyone else would just roll with it.

It's possible for someone to be a generally great person and still fuck up sometimes, which he did. You guys kiss Colbert's ass too much

There’s nothing wrong with criticizing what someone did, but the overwrought responses to this event by some people is just silly.

“I’ll never forgive Colbert for what he did!”

Give me a break.

 

[Scuffed]

I don't watch late night talk shows and haven't in years BUT Fallon is the most insufferable out of all of them imo. I'm not surprised he is in last place.

 

[n0razi]

Oh yeah Late Late Ferguson is my fave

 

[zero_suit]

Oh yeah Late Late Ferguson is my fave

His interviews were so good.

 

[MUnited83]

lol whatever

Colbert has blind spots just like anyone else. He though the shock humor value was more important so he went for it and he knew everyone else would just roll with it.

It's possible for someone to be a generally great person and still fuck up sometimes, which he did. You guys kiss Colbert's ass too much

I mean, there is a difference between saying that and "FUCK COLBERT" and "Colbert did LITERALLY THE SAME FALLON WITH BUT WITH SPICER". Those are completely nonsensical statements that ignore actual reality.

 

[SolidSnakex]

2.8 rating on imdb with only 1037 votes is pretty abysmal too.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0305056/

That's why i'm saying The Voice may have a role in it. It's a big deal for NBC

NBC was the top network in Monday ratings, as The Voice led the network to a 2.0 in viewers 18-49, and a 7 share. That topped the 1.5/5s put forth by ABC and CBS.

The Voice did a 2.4 across two hours on NBC, off a tenth of a point from last week, and The Brave was a flat 1.2.

ABC’s Dancing With the Stars slipped 19% to 1.3 from 8-10 p.m. and The Good Doctor was down 21% at 1.9.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/programming/primetime-ratings-nbc-wins-strong-voice/169219

It's also in a time slot that doesn't matter and is likely relatively cheap to produce since they only film around 24 weeks of shows with the rest being repeats and those shows are only 30m long.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

There’s nothing wrong with criticizing what someone did, but the overwrought responses to this event by some people is just silly.

“I’ll never forgive Colbert for what he did!”

Give me a break.

I mean, there is a difference between saying that and "FUCK COLBERT" and "Colbert did LITERALLY THE SAME FALLON WITH BUT WITH SPICER". Those are completely nonsensical statements that ignore actual reality.

I guess if you thought it was funny then there's really nothing else to say.

 

[MercuryLS3]

*fake laughs and hits table*

 

[MUnited83]

I guess if you thought it was funny then there's really nothing else to say.

The base of the joke is fine (Spicer being a lying shithead). Execution wasnt great. It happens. But comparing it to Fallon's literal coddling of Trump and saying "FUCK COLBERT" is ridiculous.

 

[The Last Wizard]

Fuck Jimmy Fallon

.

 

[n0razi]

His interviews were so good.

You know he's good when you never heard of half the people he interviews but still found the conversation to be interesting... whereas Fallon has A-list celebrities and their conversations are like overhearing your annoying office co-workers talk on a Monday morning.

 

[JasonUresti]

Late night shows are pretty dead now after Letterman, Stewart, Ferguson all gone and Conan fired to TBS. Stephen Colbert was great on The Colbert Report i dont like him nearly as much as the replacement for Letterman.

Why was Jay Leno so popular tho.

Leno was a talented guy who grasped that being popular was his job and tailored his stuff to be broadly appealing. Guy was also a real workhorse who was consistent week to week in his performance.

People don't like to acknowledge it, but Carson's show was generally bland and catered to the mainstream as much as anything Jay or Dave ever did.

NBC should have controlled Conan's diva behavior more strongly. They let him dictate the terms of the transition. After he shit the bed and was plummeting in the ratings they should have helped him retool and stuck by him longer.

 

[massoluk]

Good. Guy demonstrated he is fake as fuck.

 

[Cake Boss]

He is the most successful unfunny dudes since Dane Cook.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Oh yeah Late Late Ferguson is my fave

His interviews were so good.

You know he's good when you never heard of half the people he interviews but still found the conversation to be interesting... whereas Fallon has A-list celebrities and their conversations are like overhearing your annoying office co-workers talk on a Monday morning.

Craigy Ferg was too good for Late Night. Of course, the fact that he was on so late let him just do whatever the fuck he wanted, which is why the show was so good.

 

[aparisi2274]

I stopped watching Fallon because I couldn't deal with his constant gushing over his guests. It got so annoying...

 

[GuessMyUserName]

lol whatever

Colbert has blind spots just like anyone else. He though the shock humor value was more important so he went for it and he knew everyone else would just roll with it.

It's possible for someone to be a generally great person and still fuck up sometimes, which he did. You guys kiss Colbert's ass too much

I'm confused, the first part of this post is entirely correct but then the ending is about ass kissing Colbert? What?

Yes it's possible for a great person to fuck up and that position isn't a problem to anybody at all. The "fuck Colbert" chunk of people that want to paint him as some asshole all because of that one "fuck up" by a "generally great person" are far beyond that.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

I guess if you thought it was funny then there's really nothing else to say.

This doesn't feel like a response to either of the two things you quoted.

 

[Stiler]

His "fake laugh" at every-single thing his guests says and the constant interruptions and not letting them fully talk irrates the hell out of me. He doesn't come off as genuine or really interested in his interviews and on top of this they do some really stupid "games" on the show.

I wish we could get Graham Norton to do a good late night show over here.

Conan is the best one as far as actually seeming interested in the interviews and knowing how to talk to his guests (just watch his Bill Burr interviews).

Craig Ferguson was great and I wish he still had his show on.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Who's Jimmy Krallon?

 

[Sanjuro]

Can we just hate James Corden more please?

 

[adamsapple]

I'm not surprised. Jimmy Fallon is a seriously unfunny guy.

 

[GuessMyUserName]

Can we just hate James Corden more please?

Literally the only thing I've seen from him is his response to the concert shooting which was great, so nope!

 

[Sanjuro]

Literally the only thing I've seen from him is his response to the concert shooting which was great, so nope!

Did he do it from a fake car?

 

[Megawarrior]

.

This moment single handedly ended any positive thoughts I had about him and I haven't watched it since. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

 

[Codeblue]

Seth Meyers deserves a better lead in.

 

[Puck Beaverton]

james corden fucking sucks

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

This doesn't feel like a response to either of the two things you quoted.

People are willing to overlook how pointless and in some ways insulting it was for Colbert to have Spicer on the Emmys because he usually does good work. This, combined with the reaction people had to Coates being frank with him about his lack of hope for America leads me to believe that Colbert can do no wrong in the eyes of some.

 

[starchild excalibur]

I don't mind Fallon taking the apolitical position in late night TV, but with Kimmel having some really heartwarming monologues this year and Colbert really digging his heels in on Trump I guess Fallon's neutral stance is probably a bit too milquetoast to really garner new viewers.

At the same time I think if he tried to pivot into being super critical and "woke," it'd definitely come off as a charade and backfire on him.

I'm not really sure what his options are here. Personally, I'm not really a huge fan of any of the late night talk show hosts (I probably like Seth Myers the most), but it's clear that Fallon is losing his audience to other, more attention-grabbing hosts.

 

[Sanjuro]

james corden fucking sucks

He rarely uses his show's full title, The Late Late Show Where Reggie Watts Slowly Dies.

 

[Steve Youngblood]

People are willing to overlook how pointless and in some ways insulting it was for Colbert to have Spicer on the Emmys because he usually does good work. This, combined with the reaction people had to Coates being frank with him about his lack of hope for America leads me to believe that Colbert can do no wrong in the eyes of some.

Right, but those posts you were responding to were not questioning whether Colbert can be called out in as much as they were questioning whether the response is proportionate to the perceived offense.

 

[Plinko]

Leno was better. LENO.

 

[odiin]

Seth Meyers deserves a better lead in.

Him and Corden need to swap.

 

[Sanjuro]

Leno was better. LENO.

Kevin Eubanks??

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Right, but those posts you were responding to were not questioning whether Colbert can be called out in as much as they were questioning whether the response is proportionate to the perceived offense.

I think the defaulting to the most extreme responses shows that they felt any response other than praise was unwarranted.

 

[btrboyev]

I'm not surprised. Jimmy Fallon is a seriously unfunny guy.

It’s not that he’s unfunny, he relies way too much on skits and he sucks at interviews.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

I think the defaulting to the most extreme responses shows that they felt any response other than praise was unwarranted.

Even though the quote from me that you quoted literally said “there’s nothing wrong with criticizing” Colbert.

 

[broncobuster]

Craig Ferguson was the only late night show I watched regularly for interviews, while Conan always has incredible remote sketches. Of the current crop, occasionally I’d check out a YouTube video of Colbert, Meyers, or Kimmel talking about a news story. But their interviews and sketches are fairly weak.

With Fallon, uh, there’s nothing appealing about his show. News stories, interviews, games, and sketches are weak. The guy after Colbert (blanking on his name) seems to try doing the Graham Norton thing or having all guests on at once? Also didn’t find anything appealing there.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Even though the quote from me that you quoted literally said “there’s nothing wrong with criticizing” Colbert.

Yes, after your initial post about purity tests

 

[Kickz]

TIme for Conan@@@@@@

 

[PositiveGamer]

It is indeed a shit ride. It replaced the Twister Experience so at least we didn’t lose too much.

Meh


I like the ride. My kids and wife love it as well. It is okay.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Yes, after your initial post about purity tests

But what you quoted clarified my original post. I have no issue with someone being unhappy about that Emmy thing. My personal issue comes from how overboard some have gone with their displeasure.

As Steve Youngblood put it, the reaction doesn’t fit the supposed crime, imo.

 

[rekameohs]

NBC still deserves it, with the Conan thing

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

But what you quoted clarified my original post. I have no issue with someone being unhappy about that Emmy thing. My personal issue comes from how overboard some have gone with their displeasure.

As Steve Youngblood put it, the reaction doesn’t fit the supposed crime, imo.

Consider this: you're one of the many groups targeted by the Trump administration, the mouthpiece of which was Sean Spicer. You watch and enjoy Colbert, then hear he's going to host the Emmys, so you tune in. Then you see Colbert bring out Spicer and find out it was in fact his idea to have him there.

Maybe you have a pretty strong reaction to that, and most likely a stronger one than someone not in the crosshairs.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Consider this: you're one of the many groups targeted by the Trump administration, the mouthpiece of which was Sean Spicer. You watch and enjoy Colbert, then hear he's going to host the Emmys, so you tune in. Then you see Colbert bring out Spicer and find out it was in fact his idea to have him there.

Maybe you have a pretty strong reaction to that, and most likely a stronger one than someone not in the crosshairs.

And I’d understand being upset or disappointed. But angry? Over what was, at worst, a tasteless joke that landed poorly?

Not every perceived slight is a declaration of war.

 

[Wamb0wneD]

Consider this: you're one of the many groups targeted by the Trump administration, the mouthpiece of which was Sean Spicer. You watch and enjoy Colbert, then hear he's going to host the Emmys, so you tune in. Then you see Colbert bring out Spicer and find out it was in fact his idea to have him there.

Maybe you have a pretty strong reaction to that, and most likely a stronger one than someone not in the crosshairs.

Or maybe some of the people finding those reactions over the top are in the crosshairs as well?
I find it a bit presumptuous to assume anyone who points out that the stuff that went down with Spicer doesn't negate everything good Colbert has done over the years is not targeted by Trump and his abministration in some ways.

 

[EBreda]

I think Jimmy Fallon is a perfect subject for a crass Family Guy episode. Maybe it already happened, it's been some time since we I last saw it.

The way he forces his obnoxious laughter into every sentence a guest throws is his ridiculous trademark. It's beyond embarrassing. His set pieces offer some entertainment , but he's a really unfunny guy. And all of his jokes sound the same.

Conan deserves a better platform. He's both a funny guy and a terrific writer.

And Colbert is , despite insisting on Trump jokes , on fire.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

And I’d understand being upset or disappointed. But angry? Over what was, at worst, a tasteless joke that landed poorly?

Not every perceived slight is a declaration of war.

So you see it differently, that's fine.

Or maybe some of the people finding those reactions over the top are in the crosshairs as well?
I find it a bit presumptuous to assume anyone who points out that the stuff that went down with Spicer doesn't negate everything good Colbert has done over the years is not targeted by Trump and his abministration in some ways.

It obviously doesn't negate everything Colbert's done and I'm not going to pretend that's the argument.