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Joe Carnahan confirmed as director of 'The Raid' "reimagining". O.G. dir' to produce
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hogendaz85
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Loved both Raid movies will not watch this! Why do this? It's silly. He movie does not need Hollywood or white people to replace the cast. Lame
Flying Toaster
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SuperStiltzkin
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C'mon guys, imagine The Raid, but the guys with AKs and sniper rifles don't disappear after the first 30 minutes.
Yeah if people want Adkins then you want him as a villain, but not a lead. Besides, if it's centered around Adkins then you're guaranteeing it be a watered down version of The Raid.
If you're going to remake this, then you take crucial elements and change the cultural context or the tone or the approach to violence. Make it different and familiar. That is cool. That's what remakes are allowed to be.
If you're going to remake this, then you take crucial elements and change the cultural context or the tone or the approach to violence. Make it different and familiar. That is cool. That's what remakes are allowed to be.
Evans doesn't seem like he's been having much luck with funding recently, especially with how poorly The Raid 2 did at the US box office, and that seems to have stalled any real progress on both a Raid 3 and his other project, Blister. He's allegedly doing a non-martial arts film with Dan Stevens that's supposed to start shooting next month, but details are very mum on that front other than it shooting in the UK and being something of a cult thriller.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Neither of those movies were rip-offs. A good guy stuck in a building full of bad guys is a story that has been done many times and goes back all the way back to Die Hard (at least).
Fancyarcher
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Not a bad choice for the director, I just think this remake is completely unnecessary.
They're both great movies that do their own thing with the concept. It doesn't matter.
CrimsonSquall
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Single shot scenes or no go. This is my favorite action flick. First time me and my dad watched it we both sat up like damn son, where'd u find this at?!
Raylan Targaryen
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"i wouldn't go in with this many guys"
"maybe like 6 or 7"
yeah, cuz that totally conveys that shit is real.
6 cops..
my mom had 6 cops when she got pulled over for an illegal turn. 6 cops aren't being sent to do a raid if it takes 6 of them to give a woman a ticket
The snipers never disappeared but if they did what does any of this add to the raid? It's for the most part a martial arts film. There are plenty of action movies all about gun play like I don't know dredd or watch the goat hard boiled.
Christ, the whole tower thing was already done with martial arts in the form of Game of Death. Any greatness in The Raid is down to the direction, not the story concept.
SuperStiltzkin
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Yeah they did. Windows stopped being a death trap. The only time they showed up is when Rama rode a guy down a fire escape.
The Raid can work without martial arts. The first 30 minutes of the raid is a tense shootout movie about cops being outnumbered and surrounded in enemy territory. You can make that concept work without martial arts. And I think the Raid 1 does it well during those first thirty minutes. But when they introduce martial arts, that feeling of being vulnerable and being killed from anywhere disappears. I don't hate it. It's like oh you guys were doing a good thing, but switched gears to something else which is also good. I wouldn't complain if they stayed with the tone and tension of those first thirty minutes instead of introducing martial arts. But I also like when they introduce martial arts. Basically there are two distinct flavors in The Raid and if the remake decides to stay with the flavor of the first half, I could see it working.
So you just want a different movie which is fine there are plenty of other action movies. Maybe this remake will give your raid sniper movie. I also don't remember any scene later in the movie where they where near windows and the snipers didn't shoot.
sturgboski
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Cant Hollywood just take the money being set aside for this reimagining and fund Dress 2?
Also I want a Raid 3...
Also I want a Raid 3...
Wasn't there something where Will took on some other movies so it had to get pushed back. Maybe I am wrong but I thought so
He's producing this, and from what it sounds like, he's about to get started on a new film himself.
Ah, just found it. It was pushed to November 2018, so I guess it's next and then the Raid starts sometime next year. Then again, the Raid could be slipped in between, too.
I guess Frank Grillo can actually fight somewhat?
http://www.mmaweekly.com/actor-frank-grillo-brings-a-lifetime-of-martial-arts-experience-to-kingdom
http://www.mmaweekly.com/actor-frank-grillo-brings-a-lifetime-of-martial-arts-experience-to-kingdom
Saucycarpdog
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The raid 1 & 2 were pure martial art films. If this "reimagining" isn't martial arts, then what the fuck?
It would be like trying to remake John Wick but in a court room. What's the fucking point?
It would be like trying to remake John Wick but in a court room. What's the fucking point?
SuperStiltzkin
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There are tons of scenes in the raid where they are by windows and don't treat them with caution. The only time the threat of it is back is when Rama is on the fire escape.
Also did you not like the first thirty minutes of The Raid? I think saying it's only a martial arts film is not giving enough credit to the movie's first half at how well it crafts tension and the feeling of being overwhelmed and trapped. It also has good gunplay and shootouts. That's an aspect of the original that a remake can expand upon because it will never match the martial arts.
The beginning was enjoyable, but my jaw only dropped (and stayed open) starting at the first hallway fight.
eot
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NOOOOOOPPPEEE.
I will only accept this "Raid" if they do what made the OG Raid so good; uncut takes of the action scenes and imaginative combat scenarios. Not Gun-Fu a la John Wick, but actual fighting with the occasional moment of gun fights.
I don't want what'll be a cinematic third-person shooter, I want some ridiculous John Woo-style action scenes combined with uncut and longer takes.
NO THIS:
What the hell is this?!!
Magic Mushroom
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He's doing a movie with Iko Uwais as well.
I like all of the raid but I am not hung up on the snipers and the first 30 min. I could easily just say those windows where on the other side of the building and the snipers couldn't see them. What does is matter at all? I don't think the movie changed after 30 min and I think the tension stayed hi and I felt like there overwhelmed and trapped throughout the movie.
If this reimagining and his new project perform well, maybe we can get a third and final Raid movie from Gareth Evans?
Well there was a rumor about Will taking that on that Dumbo movie so it may even be longer if that happens which sucks. My dream fantasy would be Denzel being the villain of Bad Boys 3
SuperStiltzkin
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They were just established as a huge threat that I would have liked that extra layer of traps to stay. And the movie doesn't have to rely on guns and unseen snipers to be tense. Remember the machete in the wall scene? That was a tense scene that didn't rely on martial arts. So saying that the remake would be watered down and shit because it can't match up to the martial arts is overlooking all the good things that The Raid does without martial arts. It's a tense survival film if you look past the martial arts. And Joe Carnahan has kinda done that with The Grey.
That sounds too good, haha, I'd love that.
Your not wrong but you can enjoy your raid movie with out great martial arts and more of a tense survival film and I will like the original which I think has all of that is spades.
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