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Joe Carnahan confirmed as director of 'The Raid' "reimagining". O.G. dir' to produce
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SuperStiltzkin
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Well I can like both since I can always watch the original and the sequel for great martial arts.
But it's not like the remake will be anything like I want it to be. It could still be shit trying to match the martial arts action of the original. But I prefer to imagine how a remake could work rather than have a knee jerk negative reaction.
I have to imagine that whatever plot excuse is going to be used to stick a white American police officer in an apartment complex full of criminals trying to kill him is going to be insanely racist.
Others have said it first: there is already a Western version of The Raid, and it's called Dredd. Hell, Dredd skated over the optics of white law enforcement officers gunning down scores and scores of slum dwellers with its fictional setting. And it had Olivia Thirlby and Lena Headey.
Others have said it first: there is already a Western version of The Raid, and it's called Dredd. Hell, Dredd skated over the optics of white law enforcement officers gunning down scores and scores of slum dwellers with its fictional setting. And it had Olivia Thirlby and Lena Headey.
That's a good positive attitude but I don't have a lot of faith in Hollywood and I am a huge fan of the raid films so I am not a fair judge. In my perfect world they wouldn't call what ever this turns out to be the raid but I am not objective. I never saw the american old boy for the same reason.
Extra Sauce
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I'll be goddamned if I let a good director reimagine a basic premise without whining about it on the Internet.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Why can't Americans just watch and appreciate foreign movies
Subtitles are to hard and how can people relate to those foreigners
The Raid movies never made a lot of money and are very cult films, so it's not like your getting some big well know franchise name out of it.
Yeah I was gunna say
MetroidPrimeRib
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I don't even know if it's some weird Eurocentricism because it happens to Italian and Swedish films
SaniOYOYOY
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Frank knows jujitsu right?
waiting for trailer of this 'reimagining' before commenting further
edit : it just occurred to me, who will they cast as the mad dog? can anyone fight like that in holywood atm?
waiting for trailer of this 'reimagining' before commenting further
edit : it just occurred to me, who will they cast as the mad dog? can anyone fight like that in holywood atm?
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
I'm with ya
The Raid is probably my favorite action movie of all time. I've got faith in these dudes. Big fan of Frank Grillo
A lot do. But the money is in presenting to all of those (not just American's) that don't.
Frank Grillo is a douche. Best of luck to them either way.
Jeffolation
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The sequel was an overly indulgent and bloated let down so if this series has to continue through sequels, remakes or whatever I'm fine with it as it isn't some sacred thing in my eyes. Plus I've liked some of Carnahan's prior work so I hope it works out.
SuperStiltzkin
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I'd need to see a trailer or at least more information before I can say the remake will go either way.
I'm just saying that if you were to remake it with lesser fighting talent, then what could you expand on? If you strip The Raid 1 of martial arts, then you're still left with a cool and simple concept and action thriller of cops trapped and outnumbered in an apartment fighting for survival. You could theoretically make a successful reimagining of The Raid without as good martial arts.
The Raid 2, however, I think is impossible to remake. If you strip The Raid 2 of martial arts, you're kinda left with a generic mafia crime movie that is too long. It's not a terribly exciting concept in itself. The Raid 2 is not a movie that can survive without its martial arts set pieces.
BlueTsunami
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This and change the world enough to create its own distinct intrigue. If not its gonna come off extremely derivative.
Messofanego
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Good luck on the choreography and cinematography 
El-Pistolero
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What is there to be re-imagined, really? It is a pretty straightforward premise, with a bunch of agents trapped inside a building who realize they were dispatched to die, and have to punch, stab and kick their way out of it. The brilliance of the movie was in its limpid direction, the magnetism of its central character and the brutal, yet splendid choreography that rarely, if ever, graces western action flicks.
Charles Brandon
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Isn't this being produced by the same guy who wrote and directed the original? Who is from Wales btw.
Theu should just not call it The Raid and if it's good then it will stand on it's own merits.
Just because he has a Producer credit doesn't mean he is all that involved in the film. It's just a way to get his name in the trailer and try to attract fans of the original.
The more I've thought about it, the more I don't dislike this idea. The originals will not be going anywhere, this will have no bearing on those for me at all. And, if this is successful it will shine a light on the originals and they will experience more exposure. I'm down for that.
True Savior
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There's nothing to remake about the Raid.
Just do a good action movie instead of trying to capitalize on Evans/Uwais/Ruhian/stunts past work.
Just do a good action movie instead of trying to capitalize on Evans/Uwais/Ruhian/stunts past work.
He literally sold away the remake rights to make another film, so him coming back to work on this doesn't really scream "cashing the check" right off the bat.
Magic Mushroom
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infinityBCRT
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John Wick kinda serves as the English re-imagining of The Raid for me. So I don't think this is necessary.
GuitarAtomik
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Normally I'd say this is a bad idea, but Carnahan + Grillo + Evans on board? Could be good. I imagine it will have less focus on martial arts and more on gunplay and there is an opportunity to improve the actual story. If they play in to that stuff, maybe it can be good as a different thing.
Pretty much this. Funny thing is, Dredd was actually written before The Raid even entered preproduction, but it took a long time before it got a director.
This is sounding worse and worse. Their justification for making it is just sad "Well nobody in North America has seen the Raid so we want to bring that to them". Immediately after spending a page and half explaining how it's completely and utterly different from the Raid.
They can spin it all they want, but it's all talk at the moment. Of course the director of the original would support it since it's easy money for him, just like it was for the directors of REC and REC2 (they trashed the remake afterwards).
I'll still watch it since I'm a sucker for R-rated action movies, though.
I'll still watch it since I'm a sucker for R-rated action movies, though.
Damn this just reads like shitty PR talk. We will zag where they zigged and we'll weaponize these ideas! Come on dude.
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