Joint Nokia/MS conference next week. *Rumor* Nokia adopting Windows Mobile
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Lagspike_exe
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Riddick said:
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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Riddick said:
If anything I see more adverts for Nokia phones than the iPhone in Taipei.
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wow that would give nokia a real good shot at becoming relevant again, even though they apparently still sell a ridiculous amount of phones to somebody.
Earl Cazone
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isnt apple super successfull everywhere in the world?
whatever, i like nokia and i like wp7 and am looking forward towards this
whatever, i like nokia and i like wp7 and am looking forward towards this
You may whine about my post but it's the truth. Apple is a terrible company that treats its customers like idiots.
1.Make pretty UI and hardware so that the customers can brag about it to their friends (pretty but limited)
2.Bombard customers with ads
3.Sell at twice the value of the product
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4.Profit
1.Make pretty UI and hardware so that the customers can brag about it to their friends (pretty but limited)
2.Bombard customers with ads
3.Sell at twice the value of the product
....
4.Profit
You know what this says? This says that if you're going for volume you *need* other ways of generating profit in the industry.
This is why Windows Phone 7 makes sense for Nokia. They can put out the volume, and assuming they get a cut from Marketplace sales, they're sitting pretty. It's "easy" to make a nice phone, it's not easy to create an eco-system. And that's what Microsoft have managed with WP7 despite relatively low sales - the Marketplace sells.
Nokia's problem is that they're so big and bureaucratic that changing the direction the company is heading takes a lot of time. They know they have a big problem but the process of fixing that is a slow process.
Apparently next Friday the new CEO Stephen Elop is going to reveal the first big changes.
Apparently next Friday the new CEO Stephen Elop is going to reveal the first big changes.
giga said:
Going by my country's operators (smartphone starting prices) :
Bouygues: 1 - 199, iPhone 4: 199/299
Orange: 1 - 149, iPhone 4: 199/299
SFR: 1 - 129, iPhone 4: 199/299
Keep in mind that while you can find one or two phones at 199, 149, and 129, the majority are well under 49. The iPhone is much more expensive, I don't know how you can even debate that.
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Engadget reported on this as well and they claim to have a source that confirmed it.aswedc said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/04/nokia-microsoft-announcing-partnership-next-week-possibly-invo/
The bolded part is important. Nokia won't go exclusively with WP7 (that would be really stupid) and they're gonna keep Symbian or MeeGo. It would make sense to drop MeeGo, then use WP7 for the high-end and Symbian for the lower-end devices. They talked about it on the Engadget podcast and it seems that Symbian is too huge to just drop it like that. MeeGo on the other hand isn't even on one single product. You can only download images for the N900 and Netbooks, but that's it.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is still alive and kicking in the enterprise business. Motorola even released a new WM6.5.3 handset few months ago.claviertekky said:
http://www.pocketpccentral.net/news...bile-enterprise-smartphone-coming-in-october/
btw, I'm expecting something like Silverlight 4 for MeeGo. Would be funny, wouldn't it?
Lagspike_exe
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Riddick said:
I'm sorry, what? This just means they're able to match or exceed other manufacturers' devices, while producing them at much lower prices. What does this tell you? Your argument is invalid. If a company can sell a product in a saturated market for a much higher price than the price of manufacturing, it means they're doing something much better than the competition. See another example: Porsche.
giga said:
Samsung Galaxy S - 99
Blackberry Bold - 119
Samsung Omnia 7 - 129
Blackberry Torch - 149
(Orange prices)
Those are the four most expensive one after the iPhone 4. You can also get a 3GS for 99, but it only dropped to that after the iPhone 4 came out, used to be 199/299 as well. The N8 and Mozart are at 79, and the Optimus at 69. I've never spent more than 100 on a phone, and I've bought an N95, an E71, a Hero, and an Omnia 7 (it was at 99 during launch
). The iPhone is at another level, pricewise.Comparing the hardware of a Bold or Torch is laughable man. The latter is about on par to the 3GS. The Galaxy S and Omnia 7 are more comparable.MagniHarvald said:Samsung Galaxy S - 99
Blackberry Bold - 119
Samsung Omnia 7 - 129
Blackberry Torch - 149
(Orange prices)
Those are the four most expensive one after the iPhone 4. You can also get a 3GS for 99, but it only dropped to that after the iPhone 4 came out, used to be 199/299 as well. The N8 and Mozart are at 79, and the Optimus at 69. I've never spent more than 100 on a phone, and I've bought an N95, an E71, a Hero, and an Omnia 7 (it was at 99 during launch
$100: http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/Phones/cell-phone-detail.aspx?cell-phone=Samsung-VibrantSir Fragula said:
$200: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...skuId=1484107&id=1218262482328&ref=141&loc=01
$200 : http://www.verizonwireless.com/droid-x-motorola.shtml
Seems like you Europeans get far more discounted options than the US then.
The iPhone 4 is free on contract in Hong Kong, China, Japan, and Taiwan (maybe others). And data + voice plans are cheaper.Sir Fragula said:
Carriers in other places could subsidize even more if they wanted to, but customers are willing to pay, so there's no reason to subsidize. (They also act very cartel-like, AT&T just RAISED the price of a contract-free iPhone 4 to match Verizon's price)
Sephiroth said:
I wouldn't put it past Engadget either, the bias towards Apple on that website is just plain appalling, the editor always writes the Apple reviews and they are always glowing and they glaze over glaring faults whilst the competition is always held to a different standard.
soundahfekz
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Good. Symbian fucking sucked. I loved my 6682 though but man was that os an eyesore.
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numble said:
where was nokia?
Lagspike_exe
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crazy monkey said:
You don't want to know.
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Lagspike_exe said:
Is that just in America?
Because Nokia fucking owns Europe and i doubt they hate it.
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They didn't include in survey.Lagspike_exe said:
Apple (iPhone 4); Motorola (Droid 2, Droid X); RIM BlackBerry (Torch, Bold, Curve); HTC (EVO 4G, Droid Incredible); and Samsung (Galaxy S)
jim-jam bongs
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It's about fucking time they adopted something. Symbian is an appallingly sluggish and poorly supported OS. Nokia still make a fair amount of decent smartphone hardware but being stuck with Symbian is going to kill them in the longterm.
Ok.giga said:
I've checked on Orange store in Poland.
Prices for 24month contract 50/25 euro/month
Iphone 4 16GB 146/411
HTC Desire - 0,20*/0,20
HTC Desire Z - 0,20/180
HTC Desire HD - 13/220
Samsung Galaxy S - 0,20/13
Iphone 3GS 8GB - 25/240
Nokia N8 - 0,20/103
*yes, that's 20 eurocents.
iPhone 4 is free on Orange UK plans for an 24 month contract and 50 euro/month.Polk said:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/iphone/choose-your-4g-plan
The prices will be different based on the carriers and market worldwide. Apple sells it to the carriers at standard prices and carriers can gouge or subsidize customers as much as they want, depending on what the local consumer market can bear.
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dream said:
Stockholm (Helsinki?) Syndrome
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markot said:
I just moved from the N97 to the Desire HD and my feelings towards Symbian have nothing to do with thinking that Android is mind-blowing and everything to do with feeling that Symbian is a seriously sub-par mobile OS.
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