RubberLuffy
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Dragon's Dream is awesome because the Stand is all like "I'm totally neutral so I'll just help everybody, I don't care btw let me explain how my power works"
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Jojo's Bizarre Adventure |OT| Get back, Stand up
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Dragon's Dream is awesome because the Stand is all like "I'm totally neutral so I'll just help everybody, I don't care btw let me explain how my power works"
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
The Japanese fans just couldn't relate to the Miami Dolphins.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I would put it more on the Jump audience not really getting Jojo at part 6, considering SBR made a shift too. the stuff they had in SBR and JoJoLion wouldn't be shown in Jump these days.
RubberLuffy
Banned
Well, let's say you just turns 11 and it's 1999/2000, and you start reading WSJ, you and all your friends are gonna be ALL about One Piece and Naruto, JoJo is probably that manga your older brother reads and it's got a girl talking about gross things right from the start???
Yeah, OP/Naruto's immense popularity and the shift in what readers wanted from WSJ and what WSJ wanted to start pushing probably left Stone Ocean behind.
Yeah, OP/Naruto's immense popularity and the shift in what readers wanted from WSJ and what WSJ wanted to start pushing probably left Stone Ocean behind.
Both Vento Aureo and Stone Ocean have increasingly "adult" plots you wouldn't expect from a 90s/00s shounen, like, how many 10 year old kids are going to care about stories like Abbacchio becoming a corrupt policeman? Or Jolyne's entire arc with Jotaro being a shitty dad?
Nowadays you could get away with something like that in a Jump series, but definitely not back then.
Nowadays you could get away with something like that in a Jump series, but definitely not back then.
JadedWriter
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Sounds like Part 6 tackles something Boruto couldn't even get right. Oh god...please tell me dolphin boy gets put on blast.
Joseph was a great dad to Holly and tried to be to Josuke. Therefore, Jotaro was absolute shit trying to be Jolyne's dad.
If you read that theory about Jotaro being an antisocial introvert in the Part 4 anime thread, the way he deals with Jolyne is the most convincing evidence for that being true.
If you read that theory about Jotaro being an antisocial introvert in the Part 4 anime thread, the way he deals with Jolyne is the most convincing evidence for that being true.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Honestly the emergence of mega hits like One Piece and Naruto were naturally going to swallow the almost two decade old cult series. I feel Araki knew this and it's why Part 6 is the "end" so to speak.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Classic no half measures Araki. OBVIOUSLY the series couldn't just end, it had to be wiped from existence.
JadedWriter
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I can totally buy Jotaro having asperger's or having some sort of social autism. He's definitely the least social Jojo I've seen so far, even as a grown up. He just seems to drive around and handles the needed random task. Only really seems to deal with Josuke when he needs to deal with Josuke, he's never just hanging around the kid taking him out for pizza or anything. But hey fuck it "Josuke, there are these fucking rats with stand powers, suit up and let's hunt these fucking things." Jotaro probably doesn't even know who Koichi is.
Probably spoke to Jotaro using dolphin clicks.
I always liked how Part 7 and D4C
retroactively establishes Made in Heaven created the multiverse, and Valentine talks about fucking gravity in the finale. Incredible callback.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Her complete absence from the part was always kind of weird to me because according to Jolyne they were close. When I first read it I thought she would come in later and get a stand because of the whole large female cast thing but it never came to be.
To be honest I can totally understand why Araki would do that, like, could you write a character and make it believable that Jotaro would choose to marry
them? And have them plausibly be Jolyne's mom?
Who'd be able to write a character like that and not have them derail the entire part from her sheer bizarreness?
then divorce
Who'd be able to write a character like that and not have them derail the entire part from her sheer bizarreness?
At least Jotaro is not a cheater.
JadedWriter
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Jotaro's mind was probably just blown at the fact that he had physical contact and sex with another human being and due to being immensely awkward socially he just looked to divorce instead of trying to emotionally process it. I'm pretty sure the speedwagon foundation has good divorce attorneys on hand.
One of the weird things about Part 6: Anasui shows up as a girl in a foreshadowing panel, but he's a guy later on.
I've sometimes wondered whether Araki wanted to write Anasui as a woman obsessing over Jolyne like the final version of Anasui, but was forced to make the character male by editor fiat.
I've sometimes wondered whether Araki wanted to write Anasui as a woman obsessing over Jolyne like the final version of Anasui, but was forced to make the character male by editor fiat.
Didn't he change Anasui cause he thought there weren't enough dudes in the main cast? Not sure if this is true, but I recall reading that somewhere.
Yeah, maybe.
Plus Jonathan/Erina was all about that fated true love, so it makes sense Joseph would do the opposite.
Joseph being a shit husband makes sense when he married Suzi Q on a whim.
Plus Jonathan/Erina was all about that fated true love, so it makes sense Joseph would do the opposite.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
If we look at Jotaro's character it's not the most implausible thing.
Jotaro gets lonely, hitches up with some quiet, more reserved woman and finds himself unable to connect with her emotionally.
You just KNOW Jotaro showed up to his wedding in a tuxedo version of his outfit, "Yare Yare Daze"ing through the vows
Oh yeah he gets torn a new asshole about it.
Jotaro gets lonely, hitches up with some quiet, more reserved woman and finds himself unable to connect with her emotionally.
You just KNOW Jotaro showed up to his wedding in a tuxedo version of his outfit, "Yare Yare Daze"ing through the vows
Oh yeah he gets torn a new asshole about it.
RubberLuffy
Banned
One of the little character info pages mentions Jotaro doesn't outwardly show emotions because he figures everyone can tell how he feels just by looking at him, which is the most "has dealt with Joseph Joestar from a young age" type thing I can think of. Like, can you imagine having Joseph as your grandpa, with Holly as your mother, who was raised by Joseph? Yikes. That and being based on stoic cowboy characters.
Also his favorite movie is Never Cry Wolf from 1983, which is about a biologist studying caribou and wolves.
Also his favorite movie is Never Cry Wolf from 1983, which is about a biologist studying caribou and wolves.
RadioHeadAche
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I wonder if he requested cherries on the cake?
I've always liked the idea that Josuke was a total big bro to kid Jolyne.
I wonder how much Jotaro and Josuke had to help with bringing up Shizuka, and if Jolyne met her regularly or something.
RubberLuffy
Banned
The wedding cake had two dolphins on top dressed like bride and groom.
JadedWriter
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Dude's best man was probably ushered in in either a fish bowl or some sort of aquatic tank.
"Dad died having sex with only one woman? I'm not making that mistake. Your next line will be 'Joseph stay loyal to your wife."
Suzie Q: "Joseph stay loyal to your wife."
Narrator: "While Suzie Q says this Joseph is in the process of hopping out of the hotel window and didn't hear a thing Suzie Q said."
RubberLuffy
Banned
Also I know it's because Araki just hadn't written it out yet so she didn't "exist" when writing DiU, but it's still kinda sad to think that Jolyne is like 4 years old during DiU and Jotaro is off hunting Stand users with his uncle Josuke and working on his thesis instead of being with her 
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Also I know it's because Araki just hadn't written it out yet so she didn't "exist" when writing DiU, but it's still kinda sad to think that Jolyne is like 4 years old during DiU and Jotaro is off hunting Stand users with his uncle Josuke and working on his thesis instead of being with her
Well there is that rather adorable "Little Jolyne visits Morioh" fancomic to make up for it for me.
once you go half way around the world to save your mom and most of the only friends you had die in the process you won't be the most social person in the world and the only way to probably deal with that for him is to just take over all Joestar family matters. He could have maybe felt that leaving Jolyne and his ex alone would be better than possibly putting them in danger. He just fell for that classic "I'm doing all this shit to protect you" father approach instead of doing the right thing.
speaking of Part 3 and Jotaro's friends
in retrospect, I appreciate that Araki gave a reason for Kakyoin going on this ridiculous journey with people he'd known for less than a day: Kakyoin didn't deal well with having a crazy tentacle monster that nobody else could see, so he jumped at the chance to go on a journey with people who could see and were totally okay with Hierophant Green
in retrospect, I appreciate that Araki gave a reason for Kakyoin going on this ridiculous journey with people he'd known for less than a day: Kakyoin didn't deal well with having a crazy tentacle monster that nobody else could see, so he jumped at the chance to go on a journey with people who could see and were totally okay with Hierophant Green
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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I think he just wanted to hook up with Holly, but couldn't do that until her stand wasn't killing her.
JadedWriter
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Jotaro seemed a bit off before that even happened though, running around calling his mom a bitch and what not.
RubberLuffy
Banned
Pretty sure that was a front that she totally saw through. Dude loves his mom, he just doesn't want anyone to know it.
JadedWriter
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This is true, I just think he's trying too hard. I guess I just like the Yusuke Urameshi balance...then again Togashi turned that shit on its ear by giving Yusuke a horrible mom. Holly is top tier though.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Wasn't SBR originally "not" Jojo
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
that's why quotations
Yeah it's really suspicious, like it was more of a "testing waters but definitely is Jojo" deal, so denying it originally was weird
JadedWriter
Member
I knew it!
RubberLuffy
Banned
So I saw someone point out that there's crop circles outside the window during the Ending where it shows Shigechi in the school hallway. And yeah, there is and they're definitely the right shape.
Sasuga davidpro
Sasuga davidpro
Yeah, I saw that too. They're on some next level shit.
I think Araki just ended up making it so Jojo that he went "eh, why not".that's why quotations
Yeah it's really suspicious, like it was more of a "testing waters but definitely is Jojo" deal, so denying it originally was weird
I mean, it's not like a Sherlock Holmes-esque situation where an author has to limit themselves to their single popular franchise, Jojo's premise and nature lets Araki do anything he wants.
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