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Jojo's Bizarre Adventure |OT| Get back, Stand up
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Shmuppers
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lol. Glad I posted here then.
Yeah now that I know that I might read over certain volumes again, like the one with White Album fight.
JadedWriter
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Bruh still died over a sandwich.
RecRoulette
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A rare case of Araki letting the dog win.
Rereading the White Album fight with a proper translation is highly recommended. The old scans messed up a surprising amount of things.
JadedWriter
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Not evil enough to let a dog die, but douche bag enough to play electric guitar with a half dead woman's leg.
I was waiting until the entire arc was retranslated but I might change my mind in that case.
Why did you edit out the rest of the post, where I pointed out that the manga said nothing about that?
Oh man, please don't try and make it sound like "removed from causality" is a perfectly common expression that doesn't require any further elaboration. :þ
(Also, as I pointed out, I find it a bit odd to argue that the bullets "weren't really there", only to then add that Diavolo "wasn't really there" either, but that's another matter...)
Clearly, the author doesn't know either.
Captain Rage Quit 69
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Holy shit I had forgotten what happened at the end of White Album, poor Narancia lmao
Sibersk Esto
Banned
It seems to have payed off, since Jojolion sells really well.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Maybe one of the mods has Killer Queen as a stand and is deleting posts and making sure nothing happens.
Also I was confused how there's suddenly a group talk. Like, why would even Cinderella suddenly be involved with the gang.
Also I was confused how there's suddenly a group talk. Like, why would even Cinderella suddenly be involved with the gang.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I think it breaks it up with the mob stuff a little more. It goes fight-fight-revelation/ new assignment.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
The bullets 'weren't really there' isn't the explanation. That's what people are trying to explain it to you because you don't know what 'Removed from Causality' means. Causality means 'The effects of cause and effect'. Diavolo was removed from that moment the bullets would've struck him, because while King Crimson is time skipping, Diavolo can move within this time, but the bullets would continue along their path. To everyone else, this time is 'skipped', they just see the beginning and end.
Shmuppers
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It helps that the stands in part 5 are waaaay more interesting than those in part 3, in my opinion at least
Can never make them happy.
They are. They're definitely more batshit crazy, but that's part of what makes them more interesting.
RubberLuffy
Banned
I watched the Baoh OVA, and a bunch of dogs get beaten up/killed in the opening scene.
Sasuga, Araki.
Sasuga, Araki.
Er.
If that's not what you guys meant, maybe you should have phrased that (very) differently.
There you go again, trying to make it sound like that's a common expression... C'mon, man. It's not a real phenomenon. It may sound cool, but it sure as hell doesn't really mean anything by itself.
Gee, thanks...
Diavolo didn't move out of the way. During that scene, he explains that everything disappeared during half a second, and that's why he wasn't hurt by the bullets.
And as I've been saying for a while now, if that's how it works, if "everything disappears" during the time skip, then there shouldn't have been paw prints for Giorno to notice (that was before the Risotto fight), or extra blood drops for Polnareff to count (that was after the Risotto fight).
As I put it in that post I linked to earlier (for nothing, it seems):
When I point that out, some seem to argue back that "Diavolo is an exception", but the manga doesn't say that only Diavolo disappears, it says that everything does.
PatThePassive
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I thought it was because stand users are attracted to each other.
PatThePassive
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Narancia is part 5 waifu also!
BreezyLimbo
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If everything disappeared during the timeskip nobody would have clothes.</bad logic>
You're trying to use semantics to make your argument(Because 'Removed from causality' isn't a common phrase, as if that nulls the argument being made). I explained what causality is. You're nitpicking semantics.
Let's make it easy for you. "The bullets skipped hitting Diavolo". The pawprints and the blood drops are going to be there because, surprise, neither Polnareff or Giorno control King Crimson.
There. Easy. Bullets skipped Diavolo because time skip. Why? Because King Crimson erased the instance where they would've hit him. He didn't erase the paw prints or blood drops because King Crimson don't give a fuck about paw prints or blood drops.
Bad logic indeed. Is there a point in there somewhere?
No, I'm trying to use words to explain that it's kinda shitty of you to keep going "lol you don't know what being removed from causality means".
No, I don't know, because "being removed from causality" isn't a thing. I can try and infer what you might mean by that based on what seems to happen in the manga, but that's about it.
It's also kinda silly of you, considering your own explanations are actually quite inconsistent.
First, it meant that the bullets weren't really there:
Then, it's not the bullets that weren't there, it's Diavolo and only him (again, never mind the fact that the manga actually says that everything disappeared during the time skip, nothing about it being about Diavolo and only him):
And later on, you suddenly started talking about Diavolo being able to move during the time skip (which actually seems pretty damn superfluous based on your previous explanation: why would he need to move?):
You keep trying to make it sound like the problem is that I don't understand. I think it's rather that you can't explain. For a good reason: it makes no sense, as I explained several times already.
And you didn't need to. I was talking about the expression "removed from causality", not the word "causality".
In the first paragraph, your argument seems to be that the bullets skipped Diavolo because the very fact King Crimson is his Stand makes him (as in, his body) an exception.
But in the second paragraph, your argument now seems to be that Diavolo actually gets to choose what disappears. The reason the paw prints and blood drops showed up no longer is that Giorno and Polnareff weren't the users of King Crimson (what you argued in your first paragraph), but that Diavolo simply didn't care about those.
Like I said above, you don't seem to be able to explain yourself properly, sorry.
Not that any of that is ever stated in the actual manga anyway... Again, you're conveniently ignoring what's actually stated in the manga, i.e that everything disappears. Nothing about natural exceptions, nothing about getting to choose.
It's okay to just admit there are inconsistencies in the series, you guys!
Tizoc
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watch it be Norio Wakamoto.
D
Deleted member 231381
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It's hard to feel sympathy for Shigechi when he is so damn stupid. The moment a mysterious villain started taunting me about what his Stand was just about to do, I'd have used Harvest to slit the carotid that it was right on top of and be done with it. That fight felt more than a little contrived.
i'm also a little disappointed by Killer Queen's stand. Explosions just feel so tame in a Jojo context. RHCP felt like a more imposing antagonist with a cooler ability.
i'm also a little disappointed by Killer Queen's stand. Explosions just feel so tame in a Jojo context. RHCP felt like a more imposing antagonist with a cooler ability.
Sibersk Esto
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Shigechi thought that he had nothing to worry about since Killer Queen had a short range and he had him at his mercy. Probably thought capturing him was better since having a dead guy with a slit carotid and a seperate severed hand isn't a good look.
Sibersk Esto
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I also like the sweeping 'sad music' that played during Shigechi's struggle and death.
The soundtrack is amazing.
Here's the song that plays during Shigechi's death. Feels like the sequel to this.
Here's the song that plays during Shigechi's death. Feels like the sequel to this.
JadedWriter
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Since Kira has conversations with these hands do we ever get to hear what Kira imagines the hand is saying to him?
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