Now that I think about it, I feel like this is why he brought Spider-man into all this. It does feel like the sort of thing he would do.
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Jonathan Hickmans New Avengers / Avengers |OT| Thanos is in this (Spoilers)
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Now that I think about it, I feel like this is why he brought Spider-man into all this. It does feel like the sort of thing he would do.
MHWilliams
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Which would be fine if we didn't spend six issues with Cap time-tripping through a future that seemed just fine. Like Franklin said in Avengers #32, "You can't dodge fate." They do evil that will lead to no gain. We know this and Cap knows this.
I believe the moment in question with probably involve Franklin Richards (or his idol Spider-Man), who stands at the Marvel Universe ideal. He doesn't compromise his ideals for a greater good. Valeria is more of the Reed. Without Franklin, she's bereft of moral compass.
Cap's stubborn, but again killed heroes, blew up planet.
Zeus Molecules
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ok as nice as all this
can't be the end game. The cabal is still out there thats the fight I want to see.
was trapping everybody in a bubble
"If I play dead, Thanos will kill the negros and the woman then leave."
Who is that Beyonder is toying with?
crimsonspider89
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Hank pym is the one the Beyonder is playing with
Only reason I can imagine him being reintroduced at this juncture after his long absence from the run.
Oh boy, that always turns out well...
Of course Doom creating his own universe and trying to be god comes back to bite him in the ass!
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Wow, I feel pretty much the opposite. He's clearly in the wrong at the moment, and totally obsessed with catching the Illuminati, but he's one of the greatest characters in comics: an old fashioned hero in a world full of grey.
Comics would fucking suck without Steve Rogers.
Palette Swap
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So:
- NA #1-3 establish who the Illuminati are and how incursions work.
- Secret Wars #10-12 is the conclusion to the original mini.
- FF #611 exposes Doomverse and Future Val playing with the bridge.
- Ultimate Comics Ultimates #4 is mostly about asshole Ultimate Reed and his City (I guess that mirrors the Doomverse above)
- Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #1 introduced Miles Morales.
Am I missing something?
To be fair, Peter was unavailable before the timeskip, so he has only been absent for a few issues.
He'll probably have a part to play but I wouldn't read too much into his absence up to that point.
Hell, the most surprising part is that he'd be with Cap rather than with Bobby.
Manmademan
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From the look of it he's mostly ignoring AXIS.
Napoleonthechimp
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And his behaviour in that prison.
And then that was made irrelevant.
Mr. Poolman
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A group of evil Avengers came to 616 from a world destroyed by an Incursion. One of them, Thorr, left behind a Mjolnir that could only be wielded if the owner be unworthy and since 616 Thor is now unworthy as of Original Sin he gets to use said hammer and all the powers that come with it.
Mr. Poolman
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As long as it gets rid of Thor moping around with Jarnbjorn, i'll take it.
It was a very cool moment actually. Especially since Hickman set it up months in advance of Original Sin.
Hell do some more messed up stuff, someonea gonna come in and wreck him. Then either someone will manually revert him(as well as havok) or hell have a backup plan to purge his mind again. Everything will go back to the way it was, and noone will ever pick up on not trusting stark.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I thought it was pretty fantastic. Imo, a plot line in itself is neither smart or dumb. It's all about execution, and as usual, Hickman pulled it off fantastically.
I think Thorr came with a slight palette swap too.
Wow, that is just....dumb. Wow.
He didn't pick it up persay. Thorr left it behind and it just appeared again on Thor's back.
How it actually got onto Thor's back without the transformation sequence is another question altogether.
Thorr left his hammer behind way back in Avengers 27.
It isn't until New Avengers 27 that Thor reveals he has it.
nah
Thorr left his hammer behind way back in Avengers 27.
It isn't until New Avengers 27 that Thor reveals he has it.
Doesn't that mean that anyone can pick up Thorr's hammer?
So long as he be unworthy, which could lead to a pretty cool arc in the future.
Zeus Molecules
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maybe.... we won't know until they finally tell us wtf made Thor unworthy. Unworthy could mean a specific deed only thor or his alter earth counterparts are capable of.
I might be remembering this wrong but wasn't the title of the book cover Old Man Thor found his grand daughters reading titled unworthy?