From what I can tell it's probably beyond Future Franklin's abilities as well.
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Jonathan Hickmans New Avengers / Avengers |OT| Thanos is in this (Spoilers)
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From what I can tell it's probably beyond Future Franklin's abilities as well.
Sibersk Esto
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Why not have Legion put them in a box?
I'm feeling objectified by the dudes in this picture hot damn
RockTurtle
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they should get a league of all the classic characters' kids. those little twerps tend to come out OP.
DonasaurusRex
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Why not have Legion put them in a box?
...where the hell is eternity , infinity, and the in betweener when all this is going down.
Well, considering the Living Tribunal is dead I can't imagine they're doing all that well.
RockTurtle
Member
Why not have Legion put them in a box?
objectified men AND women?
yes...yes this is how things should be!
Manmademan
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lol. save it for the next time a "comics are sexist" debate comes up.
didn't you and slayven get banned for the last one?
Sibersk Esto
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Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow
but someday, that picture is gonna come in handy
Manmademan
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nope. the LAST one I steered clear of. The one BEFORE that I got banned for.
there was another one after the one you got banned for? jeez.
Manmademan
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its a pretty common debate. I'm surprised there's only been that many, as often as comic threads pop up.
Manmademan
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I can't help thinking that name is some kind of red herring. Sounds arabic, but it can't be.
I did see some speculation around that it's some kind of alternate galactus that ALMOST got born in FF #600, which coincidentally was written by hickman.
That explanation almost works TOO well though.I didn't read the issue though so I don't have any other context with that scan.
How about doing neither?
I can't help thinking that name is some kind of red herring. Sounds arabic, but it can't be.
I did see some speculation around that it's some kind of alternate galactus that ALMOST got born in FF #600, which coincidentally was written by hickman.
That explanation almost works TOO well though.I didn't read the issue though so I don't have any other context with that scan.
If this is what's going on then everything is fucked. May as well sacrifice everything right now.
Manmademan
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It seems to fit. Same writer came up with the concept, and it wasn't that long ago (2011?) so it's not something long forgotten about.
The "everything dies...sooner" concept seems to fit exactly with what's going on in Avengers/New Avengers. one earth died "prematurely" before it was supposed to, setting off a chain reaction.
There's an explicit reference to that alt-galactus being "born" from a celestial seed, and Rabum Alal's "birth" was explicitly mentioned as the event that destroyed our alternate earth. How many beings are powerful enough to wipe out a planet outright? How many of them are Galactus? exactly.
i would say it's a slam dunk, if it wasn't a perfect fit. It's so good an explanation I'm tempted to discard it.
I don't think many people would make that connection though. I haven't seen anyone notice it until just now. It may be a red herring, or it may just be the answer. Either way it's a damn clever bit of writing.
slightconfuse
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Do we think nick fury killed the living tribunal? Seems the most plausble
its gonna be mostly summers and richards kids. with the occasional summers/richards mix. and mayday to mix it up
Manmademan
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i'm assuming liked means "killed". No, nick fury is nowhere near strong enough to kill the living tribunal. That thing isn't even "alive" as we understand it, the abstracts all use M-bodies.
Already exists.
slightconfuse
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We'll he did kill the watcher? Just a theory
Manmademan
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not really. did you read original sin at all?
i'm assuming liked means "killed". No, nick fury is nowhere near strong enough to kill the living tribunal. That thing isn't even "alive" as we understand it, the abstracts all use M-bodies.
Already exists.
ugh. no thanks. thats not even the 2nd best panther kid
Been following it since the first issue. Took a while, but I am loving how batshit crazy its going with the cosmic stuff. A few high points.
Comic book morality getting exposed. With the situation given, Namor is the only character standing up. Well, and Dr. Strange, but get the feeling that is more him going crazy. No matter what, 616 lives on because of Namor and Namor alone. (Well. Dr. Strange killing the JL helped.) The Illuminati claimed the entire problem for themselves, and then lacked the balls to carry on. Good stuff. Ironman, Reed, and BP looking pretty shallow.
I agree with most of this. BP has a large, very vocal fanbase on the Internet and since AvX its been aimed at Namor. Seen it ruin other forums. Annoying stuff. I don't know if I'd call it character assassination, as a Namor fan I like how he's the one that stuck to his ideals over hiding behind morality. No matter what, they puts him ahead of the rest of the Illuminati members.
It'll be interesting to see where it goes. Regardless of how it turns out, Namor saved the world when the others wouldn't. No amount of BP tears can undo that. Even Thanos is technically saving the world with murder. And Doom will likely have to clean it all up.
Comic book morality getting exposed. With the situation given, Namor is the only character standing up. Well, and Dr. Strange, but get the feeling that is more him going crazy. No matter what, 616 lives on because of Namor and Namor alone. (Well. Dr. Strange killing the JL helped.) The Illuminati claimed the entire problem for themselves, and then lacked the balls to carry on. Good stuff. Ironman, Reed, and BP looking pretty shallow.
I agree with most of this. BP has a large, very vocal fanbase on the Internet and since AvX its been aimed at Namor. Seen it ruin other forums. Annoying stuff. I don't know if I'd call it character assassination, as a Namor fan I like how he's the one that stuck to his ideals over hiding behind morality. No matter what, they puts him ahead of the rest of the Illuminati members.
It'll be interesting to see where it goes. Regardless of how it turns out, Namor saved the world when the others wouldn't. No amount of BP tears can undo that. Even Thanos is technically saving the world with murder. And Doom will likely have to clean it all up.
namors proven not to have any problems killing masses of people. a world was second nature. he cant even fake morality
You know, part of me thinks the Black Priests may just be Stranges from multiple universes who have just given up and want to end it all.
slightconfuse
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Dr. Fate dude was wearing a black preist helmet. And they kind of lookalike the eye of agamotto
so how many fucked up groups of heroes have we seen so far if thats true? xaviers and richards? anyone else
I would have to go back and reread past NA issues, but wasn't Strange the only one of the Illuminati that Black Swan was outwardly hostile towards? It might be for a reason.
Manmademan
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I vaguely remember someone mentioning that those things are not technically alive at all- just some kind of construct or gestalt being. Don't remember who it was though.
We don't know who the Ebon King is yet. With the way these parallel universes work, it could be someone familiar.
Well, who knows what the dark magic Strange has started using will do. He did say there are consequences.
crimsonspider89
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Remember Infinity. What was so important about Thane that Ebony Maw was obsessed with?
I would assume it was his power set. Thane is broken as shit.
RockTurtle
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i hope Dr. Strange becomes the magical version of Sentry.
now THAT would keep everyone on their toes
now THAT would keep everyone on their toes
Learned my lesson on being in those things
Is that why we've never seen him since?
Hickman plays the long game, we'll see him again at some point.
DonasaurusRex
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This is what im talking about, when did Namor become that? He wouldn't even kill Attuma , now this, such a change.
Well. The world and everyone in it wasn't going to die if he didn't kill Attuma. This is the plot their now in. Kill worlds or let your world and every one in it die. Blooding his own hands to save those under him is keeping with his themes in my opinion. He's always been more about being a protector/defender (har har) than a hero.
dont know, laying waste to a country is random as shit.
he flooded a whole country, had no remorse in doing so, and then went to gloat about it. there was no reason to do any of that
DonasaurusRex
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you had to do it, though the illuminati is almost the defenders sans the Silver Surfer. Namor has been both protector and hero imho but thats because i have so many old issues from peoples collections. This NA arch is crazy good but it is a departure for T'Challa, Namor, 616 Reed...after he had his kids...and met the council of Reed's, and Beast. The rest of those dudes well we saw what they did in other meetings and with planet hulk.
DonasaurusRex
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I do , and thats another recent departure but wasn't he under the influence of the phoenix when that happened , Cyke killed Prof X, and Colossus beat down spider man when under the Phoenix's power so....I dont know if that counts.
the phoenix doesnt make you do things you dont want to do, it just amplifies the desire to do so. thats why they all seem to take responsibility for their actions.
