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July Wrasslin' |OT 2| Monday Night Raw and Thunder Live!

Glad to see I'm not crazy re: ZSJ. He doesn't need to tip the scales at 245 or anything, but in the context of cruiserweights he jumps out as particularly skinny. A year at the Performance Center if he has the work ethic and he'll be fine.

If he doesn't, maybe he'll be a reverse Chris Hero and return to the indies thinner than ever. Would make for a visually amusing odd couple tag team.

Oh totally, like I said I 100% think he's fine as is, but some PC bulk would also do him good.
 
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Oh totally, like I said I 100% think he's fine as is, but some PC bulk would also do him good.

All he needs to do is roll out to his meals with Albert and he'll get on the gain train.
 

Recall

Member
Sorry guys but I'm fine with people looking different.

Why have muscles when your matches are just do a move, walk to a different part of the ring do a move? So many muscle guys in CWC and they all do nothing with it.

Kendrick vs Raul was great fun, favourite match of week 3 CWC.
 
It's in his contract that he can't be suspended AND can't be tested 😂😂😂

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but it's not like she's virtually unknown. Other NXT call ups have gotten at least SOMETHING.

If they weren't going to have her character evolve after Enzo and Cass got called up they should've just put her on Raw with them. But the crowd didn't seem to give a shit about anyone in that terrible segment, the audience now knows what Thunder crowds felt 16 years ago.
 
If they weren't going to have her character evolve after Enzo and Cass got called up they should've just put her on Raw with them. But the crowd didn't seem to give a shit about anyone in that terrible segment, the audience now knows what Thunder crowds felt 16 years ago.

Let's not go that far bub. Not like they trotted out Glacier
 

bjork

Member
Her entire NXT run was with Enzo and Cass other than the last 4 months. It's not really fair to act like she should have a different gimmick.

They really should have put her back with them. She was an entertaining part of the act even if she wasn't necessary and she got pops by association.

I didn't say anything about giving her another gimmick, though. My issue is with having everyone "debut" in the same segment, especially when that was built to showcase Eva. It fell flat when Steph did the diva revolution thing, and this did as well.
 

bjork

Member
I wouldn't mind if they made him a special attraction. hides his weaknesses, too. make that big bastard making an appearance a big deal.

Is it too late for that? I haven't seen much of him, but it seems like any time he comes up, someone shows that gif of Brock taking him down.
 
WWE® Reports Record Revenue and Q2 2016 Results

WWE® Reports Record Revenue and Q2 2016 Results

Second Quarter 2016 Highlights

* Revenue increased 32% (13% excluding the timing impact of WrestleMania1) to a record $199.0 million as WWE’s Live Event and Network segments achieved their highest quarterly revenue in Company history
* OIBDA2 of $7.5 million was in line with the Company’s guidance
* WWE Network reached a record of 1.52 million average paid subscribers over the second quarter 2016, which represented a 25% increase from the second quarter 2015
* SmackDown transitioned to a live format on USA Network. Since July 25, WWE’s flagship programs, Monday Night Raw and SmackDown, have and will continue to feature unique talent and storylines
* Through the first six months of the year, digital engagement metrics continued to grow with video views up over 100% to nearly 8 billion and social media engagements up 39% to 570 million versus the prior year
* The Company announced a multi-year content distribution deal in China with PPTV, the return of a WWE live event to Shanghai in September and the signing of the first-ever Chinese talent

Select WrestleMania Highlights

WrestleMania (April 3, 2016) achieved record breaking attendance, ticket sales, viewership, and social media activity. WrestleMania broke WWE's attendance record, attracting 101,763 fans at AT&T Stadium. WWE Network reached a record 1.82 million total subscribers following WrestleMania (April 4). During WrestleMania Week, WWE Network featured 19 hours of prime-time, premier programming and subscribers watched nearly 22 million hours of content, averaging 12 hours per subscriber. WrestleMania generated more than 2.5 million mentions on Twitter in one day and over 250 million video views across WWE digital and social platforms during WrestleMania Week.

STAMFORD, Conn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- WWE (NYSE:WWE) today announced financial results for its second quarter 2016. For the quarter, the Company reported Net income of $0.8 million, or $0.01 per share, as compared to Net income of $5.1 million, or $0.07 per share, in the prior year quarter.

“I continue to be pleased with the execution of our strategy to optimize the long-term value of our content,” stated Vince McMahon, WWE Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. “Progress on this objective is evidenced by the continued year-over-year growth of WWE Network, the transition of SmackDown to a live format every week and the completion of our first exclusive content agreement in China.”

George Barrios, WWE Chief Strategy & Financial Officer, added “We achieved a 25% increase in average paid subscribers to WWE Network and generated earnings that were in line with our guidance. Over the past 12 months we delivered record revenue of $703 million. Additionally, for the first half of 2016, we delivered revenue growth of 13% from the prior year period and our digital video views increased by more than 100% to nearly 8 billion and our social media engagements increased 39% to 570 million.”

Q3 2016 Business Outlook

For the third quarter 2016, the Company projects average paid subscribers to WWE Network of 1.49 million (+/- 2%), representing a year-over-year increase of approximately 27%. The third quarter subscriber forecast represents a sequential decline of 2% from the second quarter 2016, which compares to the 4% decline from the second to the third quarter 2015.

The Company also estimates third quarter 2016 Adjusted OIBDA3 of approximately $24 million to $28 million. This range represents an expected year-over-year increase from $23.4 million in the third quarter 2015 primarily due to the increased monetization of the Company’s video content and the continued strong performance of its Live Events business.

2016 Perspective

WWE management has previously indicated that if the average paid subscribers to WWE Network increases at a rate between 20% and 25% in 2016, 2016 Adjusted OIBDA could be in a range of approximately $70 million to $85 million. If recent overarching trends regarding the acquisition and retention of subscribers continue over the remainder of 2016, management continues to believe average paid subscriber growth would be at the upper end of its range and 2016 Adjusted OIBDA would be between $80 million and $85 million. The range of 2016 Adjusted OIBDA includes the previously communicated incremental investment of $15 million to $20 million in content, technology and emerging markets. As recent historical data may not offer a comparable basis for projecting future results and future results may differ from the range provided, management offers these ranges of 2016 subscriber growth and financial performance to provide further perspective rather than as guidance.

Comparability of Results

WrestleMania 32 occurred on April 3, 2016 and is reflected in second quarter 2016 results, whereas the comparable prior year event occurred on March 29, 2015 and was included as part of first quarter 2015 results. Despite the shift in timing, WrestleMania had a significant impact on subscriber growth in the second quarter of both years. Therefore, the timing impact of the event on second quarter 2016 results is best estimated by measuring the direct contribution the event generated from ticket, merchandise and pay-per-view sales and production costs (excluding any attribution from WWE Network subscriptions). In aggregate, these items increased second quarter 2016 revenue by $29.4 million and reduced OIBDA by $0.2 million with no net impact on EPS. Refer to the Supplemental Information - Pro Forma Income Statement & Reconciliation to GAAP Measures in this release for a pro-forma analysis excluding WrestleMania from second quarter 2016 results.

Three Months Ended June 30, 2016 - Results Overview

Revenues increased 32% to a quarterly record high $199.0 million, with the increase driven, at least in part, by the timing impact of WrestleMania. (On a pro-forma basis, excluding this timing impact, the Company’s overall revenues increased 13% from the prior year quarter.) North American revenues increased 39% from the prior year quarter primarily due to the impact of WrestleMania ticket and merchandise sales as well as by the growth of WWE Network subscribers and the escalation of television rights fees. The quarter also reflected higher ticket sales and prices at other North American events and increased digital advertising revenue, which were partially offset by lower video game revenue due to the timing of a lower effective royalty rate (discussed below). Revenues from outside North America increased 15% driven by the increased monetization of content, as reflected in the Media Division, and by higher Live Event revenue from the EMEA region.

Seems like their giving WrestleMania away should've generated more people to jump on than that though...



Let's not go that far bub. Not like they trotted out Glacier

I wish Smackdown had Glacier, at least he had a cool entrance. Though with how Smackdown looked Tuesday night they probably couldn't afford it.



EDIT: Link fixed.
 

bjork

Member
The Company announced a multi-year content distribution deal in China with PPTV, the return of a WWE live event to Shanghai in September and the signing of the first-ever Chinese talent

PPTV

tee hee
 
To everyone who wasn't that impressed with ZSJ's match here's a better one

https://youtu.be/I_RvrxSdB5E

And that's not even close to his best ones imo
Didn't know Full Sail had a British location lol

I like the style of the entrances though with the British garage/punk music

EDIT: This is already way better than the CWC match. It's faster with bursts of energy instead of just slow the whole time
 

Pikma

Banned
Didn't know Full Sail had a British location lol

I like the style of the entrances though with the British garage/punk music

EDIT: This is already way better than the CWC match. It's faster with bursts of energy instead of just slow the whole time
Painful fun fact: Flash Morgan Webster dislocated his shoulder and tore ligaments in his ankle during that match
 

jmdajr

Member
I can't believe I was being polite saying WWE was merely stupid as shit immediately after Mania.

Like holy hell. Actual feces contain more intelligence than anyone in that front office including Paul.

I don't know if this part-time policy has always existed, or they just had to invoke it.

But obviously The Rock is never tested.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, ZSJ is a tiny dude, but that's a guy who is 100% Cruiserweight Division bound.
 
Worst theme song is The Revival, it's not even close

Ziggler and Miz' interchangeable themes are definitely hot trash though

Agreed on Nia, though I suppose I prefer it to what they'd normally give a character like her (big booming orchestral blah like Samoa Joe's without the dope beats)
 

Anth0ny

Member
I can't believe I was being polite saying WWE was merely stupid as shit immediately after Mania.

Like holy hell. Actual feces contain more intelligence than anyone in that front office including Paul.

i wonder how far the "you can't test me! it's in the contract!" goes. obviously it applies to rock. must apply to cena. used to apply to ryback.

i wonder who else gets away with it.

I mean why have a wellness policy if there a loop hole out of it?

it's a fucking traveling carnival
 

Sephzilla

Member
Worst theme song is The Revival, it's not even close

Ziggler and Miz' interchangeable themes are definitely hot trash though

Agreed on Nia, though I suppose I prefer it to what they'd normally give a character like her (big booming orchestral blah like Samoa Joe's without the dope beats)

get out

i wonder how far the "you can't test me! it's in the contract!" goes. obviously it applies to rock. must apply to cena. used to apply to ryback.

i wonder who else gets away with it.

It makes me think Roman had to have done something really stupid in order to get caught considering the loopholes in WWE's system
 

Kurita

Member
Worst theme song is The Revival, it's not even close

Ziggler and Miz' interchangeable themes are definitely hot trash though

Agreed on Nia, though I suppose I prefer it to what they'd normally give a character like her (big booming orchestral blah like Samoa Joe's without the dope beats)

I'm not like most girrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrls
 

jmdajr

Member
it's a fucking traveling carnival

Well they had to impose it twice.

Once because the government got involved, and second because of Eddie and lunatic Chris Benoit.

They can't have current talent dropping like flies.

But say the Rock, or Lesnar died then I don't know. Maybe they would switch it yet again.
 
I don't know if this part-time policy has always existed, or they just had to invoke it.

But obviously The Rock is never tested.

I'd imagine it's been part of the Wellness policy from the beginning and nobody's noticed because a "big" name didn't need it

Regardless, how the fuck do you put a stipulation in a contract that says that person can not be suspended by you?? Like...don't you think for even an instant that maybe there's a reason he wanted that?

This is red flag as hell. Wouldn't be shocked at all to hear he's been on roids at least since coming back in '12, likely far longer. In fact, it's what I'm calling, because you know he and they will never go on record about it.

Fuck Br*ck.
 

bjork

Member
This makes the Orton/Brock match personal, now.

They redid the wellness thing to avoid firing Orton, but it turns out all he had to do is work like four days a year and it wouldn't matter.

And we as viewers care about doping in fake sports, because why?

I kinda like the idea of guys not dropping dead from enlarged hearts in their 40s.
 
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