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July Wrasslin' |OT| ALT+CTRL DELETE DELETE DELETE NERO, IT'S OVAH!

Listening to Meltzer's WM13 recollection.

Nothing is funnier than Vince sending Pat Patterson to HBK's room the night before SS97 to teach him how to get out of wrestling holds in case Bret shoots on him.

This fucking carny ass business.
YES! When I listenwd to that edition, I thought of you 💑


But really, that part slayed me. People thought Shawn would try to shoot on Austin at 14.
 
Yeah, I've heard about AJ Styles and the brand split, good shit. Not sure how the brand split is gonna work with such an awful roster though.

Top to bottom, it's the most talent-rich roster they've had in years.

Shame the same can't be said for the creative team.
 

klonere

Banned
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is...is that suppose to be Big Poppa Pump?
"You know, they say all Governments are created equal, but you look at me and you look at the EU, and you can see that statement is not true!

See, normally if you go one-on-one with another Union, you got a 50-50 chance of winnin'. But I'm a genetic freak, and I'm not normal, so you got a 25% at best at beatin' me! And then you add Boris Johnson to the mix? Your chances of winnin' drasticly go down. See the three-way, at Brussels, you got a 33 1/3 chance of wiinnin'. But I, I got a 66 2/3 chance of winning, cause David Cameron KNOWS he can't beat me, and he's not even gonna try! So, Jeremy Corbyn, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25 percent chance, and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winnin' at Brexit! But then you take my 75 perchance chance at winnin', if we was to go one-on-one, and to add 66 2/3 ch… percents, I got a 141 2/3 chance of winnin at Brexit!

See, Cameron; the numbers don't like, and they spell disaster for you at Brexit! See- but I'm gonna break it down for all you ladies. Would you rather be with me, or would you rather be with Cameron? See, you're one o' those Governments that like EU subsidies. I'm-a talk to all my freaks out there. Would you rather come home to me, a genetic freak, to be satisfied every night, or go home to that fatass!? See, tonight, we're gonna win, and I'm gonna be the World Champion at Brexit."
Don't ask me how I know what happened.
 
Adam Rose would debut on an episode of NXT on March 6, 2014, and was immediately received by the fans. His infectious character, combined with energetic music and party of “rosebuds” made him one of the most must-see superstars on the NXT program. However, this rapid response also did some harm to his growth, as he was called-up to the main roster instead of given time to grow the Adam Rose gimmick on NXT to championship heights.

“We produced him rather quickly on to NXT, and then on to the main roster,” Rose explains. “I think in NXT the character was closer to what me and Dusty has visioned. And once it got to the main roster, I think it became somebody else’s vision and we unfortunately had went from having sort of an edgy vibe to it, to being Sesame Street. And I said that to Paul (Triple H) directly, that it is Sesame Street, and he said, ‘it’s funny, because you become someone’s interpretation of the character instead of the character that was actually produced.’ So that is how it all broke down.” He adds, “I wish we had stayed in NXT longer. I definitely think it had legs there, and to run some sort of course there. It never actually ran any course in NXT because it was pulled up so quickly. But I think it’s my fault and the WWE’s fault that we were called up that quick because we had all gotten into the same place; either go up or leave, at this point, because I had been in developmental for so long and I’m not getting any younger. I had said directly to [Triple H], either let’s do something or let me go, because I have a family to support, and if I’m not going to go anywhere, than let’s leave it.”

During his run on the main roster, Rose never really had the opportunity to gain any steam for a considerable amount of time, and his popularity in NXT unfortunately was not mirrored on the main roster. As a result, WWE Creative decided to turn him heel and feud with the Bunny character. Rose was unhappy from the start that his character debuted on the main roster as a babyface, as he thought being a villain would work better initially.

“I did a commercial, and once I did the commercial, I realized that we were going down the wrong path,” said Rose. “I think on the main stage, it needed to be introduced as a heel, because it was so quirky and so different. I think if it was introduced as a heel, then people wouldn’t have felt forced to love it, and then I felt that they would have naturally fell in love with certain parts of the quirkiness, and it would have naturally evolved to something or someone who people liked. I think that was a big mistake.” Rose adds, “I think one of the hardest things to do in this industry is to get over as a babyface. Some people have a natural connection with the audience. [Someone] like Sami Zayn has a natural connection with the audience. I don’t think Adam Rose had any with the audience because he was completely quirky and over-the-top and ridiculous. And I think that’s why it would have been better introduced as a heel because your automatic reaction to seeing someone like that is not to like it.”

At the conclusion of Adam Rose’s WWE career, he was placed in a misfit group named the Social Outcasts, along with Curtis Axel, Bo Dallas, and Heath Slater. Rose admits that he had no idea about the group until he was given the idea only a few hours before the show started.

“We had no idea,” said Rose. “I think we were told about 5 o’clock on a Monday night that we were now going to be a group. I think we were four guys who the company saw had something, but we were doing nothing. So I think the idea was like, okay, let’s put them together collectively in a group, and these are guys who don’t know each other really well. I think the awkwardness of it was actually one of the reasons [why it worked]. You get all these well-polished teams, and the idea was for the faction to not be well-polished, and the idea was for us not to get along, to almost be bumping heads and trying to one-up each other the whole time. I think the Social Outcasts has talented individuals in it. I don’t think the Social Outcasts is going to be a deal loss; I think it is going to be, given the right structure, could take off. But, it’s all a matter of where you put it.
 

dream

Member
Holy smokes, the Nakamura crowd singing shit was SO CLEARLY PIPED IN at the Japan house show. That is vile.
 
Adam Rose would debut on an episode of NXT on March 6, 2014, and was immediately received by the fans. His infectious character, combined with energetic music and party of “rosebuds” made him one of the most must-see superstars on the NXT program. However, this rapid response also did some harm to his growth, as he was called-up to the main roster instead of given time to grow the Adam Rose gimmick on NXT to championship heights.
Yeah, the Adam Rose gimmick was pretty much ruined the minute he was brought up to the main roster. Also I don't think the whole party train worked in a arena full of thousands of people compared to the smaller Full Sail space. He was brought up pretty quickly, which seemed to be the issue. All the supposed proposed plans as well on the Bunny thing was wild. Justin Gabriel gave the idea of a Donnie Darko thing with the Bunny being revealed ultimately as Vince himself. This is what he wanted the evil Bunny to look like.

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Yeah, the Adam Rose gimmick was pretty much ruined the minute he was brought up to the main roster. Also I don't think the whole party train worked in a arena full of thousands of people compared to the smaller Full Sail space. He was brought up pretty quickly, which seemed to be the issue. All the supposed proposed plans as well on the Bunny thing was wild. Justin Gabriel gave the idea of a Donnie Darko thing with the Bunny being revealed ultimately as Vince himself. This is what he wanted the evil Bunny to look like.

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"Why am I gonna be a Bunny rabbit for some guy who no one knows? That's a waste of my time and money. This guy isn't even big enough to be on the screen with me. Hire a bunny from the local mall to play him. The kids will love it."
 
"Why am I gonna be a Bunny rabbit for some guy who no one knows? That's a waste of my time and money. This guy isn't even big enough to be on the screen with me. Hire a bunny from the local mall to play him. The kids will love it."
Vince being revealed as the Bunny would be way better than his reveal as the Higher Power.

Suit was gonna be designed by the people who did the zombie make-up on the Walking Dead. Apparently according to Gabriel they also did Kane's masks.
 

klonere

Banned
Yeah, the Adam Rose gimmick was pretty much ruined the minute he was brought up to the main roster. Also I don't think the whole party train worked in a arena full of thousands of people compared to the smaller Full Sail space. He was brought up pretty quickly, which seemed to be the issue. All the supposed proposed plans as well on the Bunny thing was wild. Justin Gabriel gave the idea of a Donnie Darko thing with the Bunny being revealed ultimately as Vince himself. This is what he wanted the evil Bunny to look like.

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Instead we got sexual assault bunny.

Fuck the Vince McMahon.
 
Vince being revealed as the Bunny would be way better than his reveal as the Higher Power.

Suit was gonna be designed by the people who did the zombie make-up on the Walking Dead. Apparently according to Gabriel they also did Kane's masks.
What I'm saying is, Vince doesn't/didn't give a fuck about an Adam Rose or his fucking ideas. The ideas didn't come from his steroid jacked up brain so he DOES NOT CARE.
 
What I'm saying is, Vince doesn't/didn't give a fuck about an Adam Rose or hours fucking ideas. The ideas didn't come from his steroid jacked up brain so he DOES NOT CARE.
Oh yeah, I get what you meant. I feel a little bad for Gabriel, guy seemed to have a million ideas and even the ones Vince liked were shot down by someone else. I have to admit, the guy never stood out to me, but I always feel bad about the way character direction went for every original member of the Nexus outside of Bryan, Barrett and Ryback.
 

Zach

Member
I might watch a movie tonight. Let's have a vote. Here are the choices:

Apocalypse Now
Casino
The Deer Hunter
Inland Empire

I haven't seen any of them.
 
Oh yeah, I get what you meant. I feel a little bad for Gabriel, guy seemed to have a million ideas and even the ones Vince liked were shot down by someone else. I have to admit, the guy never stood out to me, but I always feel bad about the way character direction went for every original member of the Nexus outside of Bryan, Barrett and Ryback.
Gabriel should've been the next Kidman. I think with the way they're turning things around be could always return. Hell with his creativity, he could be on the writing crew.
 

Zach

Member
Casino and Apocalypse Now have two falls a piece.

You're gah dang right Josh Matthews is awful, pantsattack.
 

Zach

Member
Casino. But Marlon is forgettable in APN. Actually go APN!
Apocalypse Now is the winner! My god what a war!

Wait, wait...

The original referee is back up in the ring and... he's declaring Casino the winner! He saw Bluekaveli pick Casino first and has reversed the decision! Casino will (maybe) be watched tonight!
 

kirblar

Member


I guess this was the last Russo Era WWF pay-per-view. I thought Chyna was going to beat Double J for the IC straaap and send him packin', too, but I guess Jarrett hangs around for another month or so.
You're about to hit the Chris Kreski era, aka the peak.

You'll know immediately when it ends.
 
Apocalypse Now is the winner! My god what a war!

Wait, wait...

The original referee is back up in the ring and... he's declaring Casino the winner! He saw Bluekaveli pick Casino first and has reversed the decision! Casino will (maybe) be watched tonight!
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MG310

Member
Apocalypse Now is the winner! My god what a war!

Wait, wait...

The original referee is back up in the ring and... he's declaring Casino the winner! He saw Bluekaveli pick Casino first and has reversed the decision! Casino will (maybe) be watched tonight!

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