You don't build your entire company around one guy, for starters. There's nobody who can captain the ship while Cena isn't there, even in the Hogan days there were people who could hold the fort down while he was gone. Hogan still had Macho Man behind him, and later on had Ultimate Warrior. When Bret Hart was the main guy there was still HBK. During the Attitude Era there was both Austin and The Rock, as well as HHH.
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You don't build your entire company around one guy, for starters. There's nobody who can captain the ship while Cena isn't there, even in the Hogan days there were people who could hold the fort down while he was gone. Hogan still had Macho Man behind him, and later on had Ultimate Warrior. When Bret Hart was the main guy there was still HBK. During the Attitude Era there was both Austin and The Rock, as well as HHH.
real_slime
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Or just more simply, when someone has a feud going on, and are on the show with developing segments for 4 weeks straight, maybe they get the next few weeks off, freeing up space to develop someone else's character, letting them rest up and also recharging their potential storylines.
Wyatt's a good example of a guy who is on every PPV and most Raws and almost never has anything important going on. He should've taken a month off somewhere and they could have positioned him better with a meaningful feud rather than Ryback and whoever else he's had this year except Undertaker.
Wyatt's a good example of a guy who is on every PPV and most Raws and almost never has anything important going on. He should've taken a month off somewhere and they could have positioned him better with a meaningful feud rather than Ryback and whoever else he's had this year except Undertaker.
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I have issues with the "Cena doesn't care about wrestling as a whole" as he continues to not only keep the company afloat, but extend its reach, appear on talk shows, and IS advancing the entire medium.
There'll always be ONE that'll rise to the top beyond all others. It's not so homogenous. And then someone says "well why STOP?" because profits, publicly traded company...it gets murky.
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It's never been like this though.
Hogan had macho
Bret had Shawn
Austin had Rock
Cena has No one (maybe punk or HHH)
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Don't get me wrong, I think there's WAYS to continue with one flagship person and still make it an easier schedule without sacrificing any of his dates.
Frecklestein
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WWE 2K15 is on sale for 67% off on STEAM I'd totally get it if anyone else is going to grab it. Could make for some funny shenanigans
It's garbage.
I'd say you should have made more stars than just Cena.
Frecklestein
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Punk would have been the Macho to Cena's Hogan, but WWE fucked that up. Bryan would have been the same way but they never wanted Bryan sniffing a main event.
but it's under $20 ...
My face right now trying to decide to get 2k15 or The Witcher 3 Expansion pass :/
real_slime
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I don't think Cena is as all-encompassing as everyone here seems to think he is. Maybe because I never saw his peak years, but he hasn't been WWE champion in a year now, and hasn't even been in the title picture at all since January. He hasn't opened and closed every show, and since WM he's rarely been opening or closing anything. He gets a good amount of time but that time has been used to show off other guys as much as it has him.
Although, I won't deny he has a frustrating tendency of steamrolling people with more potential than him (we've seen absolutely everything Cena can ever do, or at least all I'm interested in seeing), like Rusev and Kevin Owens (early to call with KO, I guess, so we'll see), who deserve to have moved into holding and competing for championships and trying out new aspects of their character. That's really the problem with Cena, that he is a dead-end for anyone who feuds with him, not that he is constantly the main focus of the show cos that just doesn't seem to be true anymore.
Dean, Roman, Seth and Brock have been the most prominent main eventers this year.
Although, I won't deny he has a frustrating tendency of steamrolling people with more potential than him (we've seen absolutely everything Cena can ever do, or at least all I'm interested in seeing), like Rusev and Kevin Owens (early to call with KO, I guess, so we'll see), who deserve to have moved into holding and competing for championships and trying out new aspects of their character. That's really the problem with Cena, that he is a dead-end for anyone who feuds with him, not that he is constantly the main focus of the show cos that just doesn't seem to be true anymore.
Dean, Roman, Seth and Brock have been the most prominent main eventers this year.
I think Cena is for advancing the WWE. That's why somebody like him would agree to take the US title on the cache that he had control over the promos. It's why his program has been the highlight of raw whereas the scripted main event has been dragged down by Ambrose being far move over than he should be, Reigns nowhere near over enough to be booked like Hulk Hogan, and Kane's overuse has caused the program to feel stale.
Could you see Cena like Flair of Foley after being forced to retire for storyline reasons going to another place just to wrestle?
Flair never wanted to retire and his retirement was to bolster a weak card. If he just wanted a paycheck he could have stayed with WWE and never went to TNA.
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Macho never sniffed the popularity Hogan did. Shawn and Bret were at a dark period where neither dude was the Guy. Austin far outpaced Rock.
Frecklestein
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Cena has Orton, Edge and Punk. I'm pretty sure Cena has been the top guy longer than all the others you listed, so he didn't really have that one prominent feud like the others did.
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In other news AAA's triplemanaia will be on real ass PPV. PENTAGOD ON YOUR TV!
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You don't believe THAT one?
Frecklestein
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If you've beaten Witcher 3, get the season pass. If you haven't, wait for it to go on sale.
but...its cheap...
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take that balony back to crystal lake, JACK
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Don't get me wrong, I like Macho, a lot. He's important - to wrestling. Hogan transcended that business, Macho never did no matter how many times you snapped into a Slim Jim or bought the Be A Man album.
If you ask a random person on the street who they're more familiar with, Macho Man or Hulk Hogan, they'd probably say Hogan.
But if you asked a random person the street who they're more familiar with, Macho Man or John Cena, they'd probably say Macho Man.
If you become the guy...no time off! Just less house shows
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I would too. Andre was somethin' special.
I dunno, a LOT of folks saw The Marine...
I think house shows are super important to it though. That's where you move that merch in bulk. Not just televised shows.
True...I just bought it and having a blast with it. I'm thinking about getting the pass since the last two games have the dlc to go along with them. I can't shake the completionist side of me :/
BTW...2K15 got them mods though
.Well then maybe not Wrestle every Monday. But we are so used to it now. At least with Cena.
Frecklestein
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True...I just bought it and having a blast with it. I'm thinking about getting the pass since the last two games have the dlc to go along with them. I can't shake the completionist side of me :/
BTW...2K15 got them mods though
we can make our indie personas and run wild online together, brother.
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I still stand by it from a gameplay perspective. I played upwards of 30 hours on the PS4 version (yes, I'm a masochist) and had some great matches during that time. The Showcase mode is work about $15 alone IMO.
What pissed of a lot of people was the ridiculous amount of cut content. No create-a-diva or create-an-arena was terrible. At least the latter can be rectified with mods from the looks of it.
On PS4 the CAW limit was only 25 but I believe it was patched to 50 on PC.
At least with the PC version you can inject titantrons and music updates for your wrestlers. We couldn't even get 2k to give us a fucking update to Seth Rollons or Dean Ambrose theme on PS4.
What's interesting though is that modders actually fund Seth and Dean's update titantron and music in the code/files of the PC version. Never actually added to the final game though.
There is still a chance that 2k16 may get a PC version. Hopefully it comes at launch.
Edit: MyCareer mode is terrible. Don't touch it. Just stay away from that. It's boring as fuck. Even in my 30 hours on PS4 I never bothered to finish it.
Macho absolutely transcended the business
This is another good point. Basically Hogan always had at least one really great talent with him
This is another good point. Basically Hogan always had at least one really great talent with him
Don't get Piper started
lol
Piper couldn't carry a promotion while Hogan was gone though. Macho and Andre both could.
But can I wrestle as Tailor Swift?
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Laughable that the interview was probably recorded before Smackdown considering we know the result of the match.
Man Cole looks kind of rough.
Thats about it
The Elite
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This is basically it. Over and over again.
It's weird that the top 3 grossing movies of all time aren't necessarily giant IPs. Such a difference from video games.
FlammableD
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You build people up so there's more than one fucking guy, it's not that complicated