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June Wrasslin' |OT-2| Money In The Bank, None In The Stock

What other boards that are so much deeper and cooler? DVDVR?

DVDVR's alright, but with most of the 80's stuff being lost after the crash, I usually read ProWrestlingOnly. Only place you get people arguing that John Cena and Negro Navarro are the top 2 workers of 2010.

On a side note, how did you feel about Paul Ryan?

He's an Ayn Rand-loving hypocritical asshole. Next question?
 

strobogo

Banned
DVDVR's alright, but with most of the 80's stuff being lost after the crash, I usually read ProWrestlingOnly. Only place you get people arguing that John Cena and Negro Navarro are the top 2 workers of 2010.



He's an Ayn Rand-loving hypocritical asshole. Next question?

What are your opinions on socialism and HBO Go?
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
I'm more concerned about who's going to get injured during the G1 and put the booking all to hell.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Duncan stop trying to make Shibata happen. It's not going to happen.

He's one of the most over faces in the entire company. Is this like when people say Naito's not over when his merch is always top 5 sellers?

G1 is pretty crappy this year, unless I'm surprised, honestly. A bunch of matches we've already seen with a similar roster, Shelton Benjamin is still there for SOME reason(can we just get rid of gaijins if they're not in the fucking bullet club? I mean get rid of them too but what's even the purpose of Davey Boy Jr, Shelton, and Lance?), and only a few realistic winners.


I think Tanahashi will win. I honestly do. I'd like Shibata or Anderson, but I think Tanahashi will be the most realistic 'surprise.'
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
All those subscribers will re up for summer slam most likely. But whatever.

I enjoy the product.i enjoy the talent. Cena is far from my favorite but he's been the main face for ten years because he's been the main draw for that long. He still draws and sells merchandise and all the people who boo him specifically when there are lots of other people in a match, out when he on the ring apron in a tag match are keeping him relevant.

I like some faces and heels. I love the effort ask the guys put in to put on a good show.

We hate on Randy but the guy took his licks tonight for our kicks.

Cena's popularity is at the expense of everyone else. The only guys who have come out looking better after feuding with him are probably Edge and CM Punk (and maybe Daniel Bryan, but they've only had 1 or 2 matches). Rub after rub has been wasted on Cena, and the result is that he's sucked up ALL the merchandise sales.

The fact that he draws and sells merchandise isn't the problem. It's that he sucks up all the drawing power and all the merchandise sales because he always ends up burying everyone else.

Remember a few years ago how Rey Mysterio won the title on RAW, then Cena beat him later in the evening? (Think it was after punk beat him in chicago and left with the title). And then they shook hands? It's basically sending a signal to all the little kids that love mysterio, hey, when mysterio's gone, Cena's your guy. Don't go to Kofi. Don't go to Cody. Don't go to these other guys on this diverse roster we have. Join the Cenation.

They have consolidated all the drawing power of the late 90s and early-mid 2000s into one person, Cena.
 
What are your opinions on socialism and HBO Go?

Social democracy is alright, actual socialism, like libertarianism or most other -ism's wouldn't work outside a 100-person society.

HBO Go is cool, I guess? But, people thinking HBO can stay solvent by just charging everybody $25 for HBO Go regardless of whether or not they have a cable subscription don't understand how current day economics for cable channels work.
 
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He's one of the most over faces in the entire company. Is this like when people say Naito's not over when his merch is always top 5 sellers?

G1 is pretty crappy this year, unless I'm surprised, honestly. A bunch of matches we've already seen with a similar roster, Shelton Benjamin is still there for SOME reason(can we just get rid of gaijins if they're not in the fucking bullet club? I mean get rid of them too but what's even the purpose of Davey Boy Jr, Shelton, and Lance?), and only a few realistic winners.


I think Tanahashi will win. I honestly do. I'd like Shibata or Anderson, but I think Tanahashi will be the most realistic 'surprise.'

I do with Shelton Benjamin wasn't there this year as he doesn't have any real direction or reason for being there, or so it feels.

I'd love to see Nagata go a long way. Just as an attaboy.
 

Gorillaz

Member
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Jesus Christ.

He got that Gucci Mane trap belly

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that bitch I might be line still kills me
 
How can anyone defend Chris Hero. Dude is lazy as fuck. HE COULD'VE BEEN A STAR.

Bo's in no better shape than Chris was in NXT. Yet he's given multiple chances, was pushed as the leader of that brand despite being useless at the time, and will never be anywhere near as good as Chris is in the ring. Why should he give a fuck?

The dude was fucking obese in his early career so I'm not sure why he'd start giving a fuck once he put his life into wrestling and was let go whilst worse people (with equally bad physiques) were left on.
 
Social democracy is alright, actual socialism, like libertarianism or most other -ism's wouldn't work outside a 100-person society.

HBO Go is cool, I guess? But, people thinking HBO can stay solvent by just charging everybody $25 for HBO Go regardless of whether or not they have a cable subscription don't understand how current day economics for cable channels work.

Your musings interest me. Can you refer me to a board where I can further discuss this in a deeper and cooler manner?
 

Sephzilla

Member
Oh, so Cena won? Glad I didn't tune in then. Not surprised that Vince reverted back to Cena like he always does when ge gets a curveball thrown his way. Can't wait for the inevitable ratings dip and to see the dropoff in Network subs.
 
You guys really think Styles is gonna have the belt until WK?

I think there's two possibilities.

Styles holds it 'til WK and drops it to Nakamura.

Or, Okada wins it back at some point, leading to Nakamura vs. Okada at the Dome.

Either way, I'm 75% sure Nakamura is main eventing the Dome against Okada.
 
Bo's in no better shape than Chris was in NXT. Yet he's given multiple chances, was pushed as the leader of that brand despite being useless at the time, and will never be anywhere near as good as Chris is in the ring. Why should he give a fuck?

The dude was fucking obese in his early career so I'm not sure why he'd start giving a fuck once he put his life into wrestling and was let go whilst worse people (with equally bad physiques) were left on.

Wait what? Hero was never obese. You serious?
 

strobogo

Banned
Social democracy is alright, actual socialism, like libertarianism or most other -ism's wouldn't work outside a 100-person society.

HBO Go is cool, I guess? But, people thinking HBO can stay solvent by just charging everybody $25 for HBO Go regardless of whether or not they have a cable subscription don't understand how current day economics for cable channels work.

I'm more of an anarchist myself. Black bloc 4LYFE.
 
Cena's popularity is at the expense of everyone else. The only guys who have come out looking better after feuding with him are probably Edge and CM Punk (and maybe Daniel Bryan, but they've only had 1 or 2 matches). Rub after rub has been wasted on Cena, and the result is that he's sucked up ALL the merchandise sales.

The fact that he draws and sells merchandise isn't the problem. It's that he sucks up all the drawing power and all the merchandise sales because he always ends up burying everyone else.

Remember a few years ago how Rey Mysterio won the title on RAW, then Cena beat him later in the evening? (Think it was after punk beat him in chicago and left with the title). And then they shook hands? It's basically sending a signal to all the little kids that love mysterio, hey, when mysterio's gone, Cena's your guy. Don't go to Kofi. Don't go to Cody. Don't go to these other guys on this diverse roster we have. Join the Cenation.

They have consolidated all the drawing power of the late 90s and early-mid 2000s into one person, Cena.

this describes him perfectly but it will get no sold because sina,
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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Yujiro's going for ALL the belts
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or Yano is
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either is a better choice than an AJ reign or yet another Okada/Tanahashi/Nakamura deal
 
Don't know if naitos over but he working his ass off.

One thing about dominion was how many people were taped up with injuries . The thing with the G1 is I can see someone winning but not making it to the dome with the briefcase . I think tanahashi will win it but will lose the case to okada or nakamura( whoever is not IWGP champ) due to shibata

Wrestle kingdom will have Shibatan/ tanahashi and okada/ nakamura
 
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Deleted member 47027

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Thankfully they're spacing out the G1 a considerable degree. It'd straight up kill some of the dudes.
 

ghostmind

Member
For this year's G1 is is the young lion Kojima's time to shine.





But really I want Shibata to win it, though I don't know if the politics will let that happen.
 
I think there's two possibilities.

Styles holds it 'til WK and drops it to Nakamura.

Or, Okada wins it back at some point, leading to Nakamura vs. Okada at the Dome.

Either way, I'm 75% sure Nakamura is main eventing the Dome against Okada.

I too would love to see Okada vs Nakamura at the Dome but Okada has to win the title before the end of the year but then where does that put Styles? And Bullet Club. Will be interesting to see what happens.

He really ought to, but it's...not...I dunno man. I just dunno. I think so.



He was a tub of shit in IWA:MS

I'm prolly looking too much into "obese". I'm all for fat or bigger wrestlers, they just have to be proportionate. Hero was never a muscle guy. Combine this with his skinny frame and you have no fucks given Hero. A damn shame too. He was one of my favs. His skinny physique reminds me of Edwards. Like if Edwards got fat, he would look like Hero.
 

KissVibes

Banned
Here's an example of someone that cared and look at him now, signed with the WWE with a gimmick that'll probably be big.

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Bo's in no better shape than Chris was in NXT. Yet he's given multiple chances, was pushed as the leader of that brand despite being useless at the time, and will never be anywhere near as good as Chris is in the ring. Why should he give a fuck?

The dude was fucking obese in his early career so I'm not sure why he'd start giving a fuck once he put his life into wrestling and was let go whilst worse people (with equally bad physiques) were left on.

Bo Dallas is supposed to be a unliked heel because of how unliked he's been for ages. That's why he still has a job.

Chris Hero tried to sell himself as an ass-kicking badass that'll knock you out and looked like a lanky Sears employee.

They were going to move him up to the main roster but he started getting lazy about fitness. They told him to shape up, he didn't. They took him off TV and instead of getting in better shape, he got worse and said "Fuck it, I'm gonna wear long tights and a shirt now."

We had stories of him just not doing gym time at all. Maybe Bo goes to the gym everyday? He may not be making gains but he's willing to try. Unlike Chris Hero, obviously.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Bullet Club's about to disintegrate. They'll get all the gold but AJ will lose at a critical juncture, or they'll ALL lose in one night, or something. It'll be big and quick, the way it oughtta be.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
Did anyone really not expect this to happen? Cena has not had his gold in too long of a period. They needed to re-fill his pool of salty tears so it was bound to happen.

Cena had the WWE championship from April 2013 through August (Summerslam).

Then two months later he was back on top (in late october through mid december), this time as the World Heavyweight champion.

Then he feuded with the Wyatts.

And now he's champion again.
 
I too would love to see Okada vs Nakamura at the Dome but Okada has to win the title before the end of the year but then where does that put Styles? And Bullet Club. Will be interesting to see what happens.

This is BS two second fantasy booking, but Styles can face Tanahashi since Styles is the "leader of the Bullet Club and ole' Hiroshi is the "leader" of the New Japan Army.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Bo Dallas is supposed to be a unliked heel because of how unliked he's been for ages. That's why he still has a job.

No.
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This is why Bo has a job. Bo has been a face with the WWE, in the same shitty shape, since 2008. He did not even turn heel until 2013. Call a spade a spade, we know why Bo is employed still.
 

Gorillaz

Member
Cena's popularity is at the expense of everyone else. The only guys who have come out looking better after feuding with him are probably Edge and CM Punk (and maybe Daniel Bryan, but they've only had 1 or 2 matches). Rub after rub has been wasted on Cena, and the result is that he's sucked up ALL the merchandise sales.

The fact that he draws and sells merchandise isn't the problem. It's that he sucks up all the drawing power and all the merchandise sales because he always ends up burying everyone else.

Remember a few years ago how Rey Mysterio won the title on RAW, then Cena beat him later in the evening? (Think it was after punk beat him in chicago and left with the title). And then they shook hands? It's basically sending a signal to all the little kids that love mysterio, hey, when mysterio's gone, Cena's your guy. Don't go to Kofi. Don't go to Cody. Don't go to these other guys on this diverse roster we have. Join the Cenation.

They have consolidated all the drawing power of the late 90s and early-mid 2000s into one person, Cena.

There is no point in getting mad over it anymore. It will and probably is soon going to come crashing down on them for doubling down on one person like that. I just laugh this shit off because of how flawed thinking it is.

I find it funny friends.
 
Cena had the WWE championship from April 2013 through August (Summerslam).

Then two months later he was back on top (in late october through mid december), this time as the World Heavyweight champion.

Then he feuded with the Wyatts.

And now he's champion again.

It's truly a great time to be a WWE fan.
 
He's one of the most over faces in the entire company. Is this like when people say Naito's not over when his merch is always top 5 sellers?

G1 is pretty crappy this year, unless I'm surprised, honestly. A bunch of matches we've already seen with a similar roster, Shelton Benjamin is still there for SOME reason(can we just get rid of gaijins if they're not in the fucking bullet club? I mean get rid of them too but what's even the purpose of Davey Boy Jr, Shelton, and Lance?), and only a few realistic winners.


I think Tanahashi will win. I honestly do. I'd like Shibata or Anderson, but I think Tanahashi will be the most realistic 'surprise.'

I'm newer to New Japan than some, so I might not have the perspective. Didn't see last year's G1, so I'm excited for this one. It'll be fun. Doesn't matter to me who wins. I just think they are building for Nakamura to get the IWGP title relatively soon. WK at the latest.
 
Mid-00's, Hero was pretty fat. Maybe not morbidly obese by medical terms, but in wrestling terms, guy did not look like a legit guy at all, but a backyarder.

That is the perfect way to describe his early look. Backyard wrestler. Too bad Cesaro didn't rub off of him during their KoW run.

Bullet Club's about to disintegrate. They'll get all the gold but AJ will lose at a critical juncture, or they'll ALL lose in one night, or something. It'll be big and quick, the way it oughtta be.

I really like this idea. Brilliant.

This is BS two second fantasy booking, but Styles can face Tanahashi since Styles is the "leader of the Bullet Club and ole' Hiroshi is the "leader" of the New Japan Army.

Styles vs Captain New Japan. Book it.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
There is no point in getting mad over it anymore. It will and probably is soon going to come crashing down on them for doubling down on one person like that. I just laugh this shit off because of how flawed thinking it is.

I find it funny friends.

I'm not mad. I didn't even feel anything at the end of the match. No excitement, no anger, just... nothing. I didn't care. IT was like ... "oh, okay. Cena's champ. Again. *continues doing other shit on computer*"

I shouldn't be indifferent to a new champion. But I am. Well done, Vince.
 
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