Dr Duncan Steel
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without Fergal (i'm using his real name cause i know the business) Neville wouldn't have been signed.
this match was seen by regal and talked with trips to get them signed/noticed.
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without Fergal (i'm using his real name cause i know the business) Neville wouldn't have been signed.
this match was seen by regal and talked with trips to get them signed/noticed.
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WCW actually did have boo/cheer signs when they taped at Disney. Because it is a TV show. Where guys pander for the reactions the bosses want them to have. There is NO difference in Rock saying he did it for the people and Cena/Bryan saying the same thing. Or Hogan doing it for the Hulkamaniacs. Or Sting doing it for the Stingers. Or Warrior for the Warriors. Or Foley doing the cheap pops every week. Or every heel that went for cheap heat on the local sports team.
Punk wouldn't have gotten signed without Foley or Joe. Neither of them work for WWE currently(unfortunately for Joe)
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I don't think that Becky is less important, but I am sure that they do. Which is why they won't torpedo Devitt with a stereotypical gimmick. At worst he'll be in the vein of Sheamus, which in my book isn't bad. And if not assuming the worst all of the time means I am "looking the other way", then yeah, that's exactly what I'm doing.
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Dr Duncan Steel
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but there was never a performance center to the degree of full sail at the time. Hunter wasn't at the helm of all of it.
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Just like Barrett has all those stereotypical British features?
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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Keyser has a Big Bang Theory avatar. Why exactly is he complaining about bad stereotype representation on a television show?
Are you trolling?
He literally comes out to the British flag, god save the queen, and talks about how he fights on the streets, dude.
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I can't watch the World Cup because of all the gross stereotypes playing.
When is the last time he talked about fighting on the streets? And that's playing off his real background, not his being British.
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I mean stereotypes in a negative sense. Things like the flag and such are fine.
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BASINGA
Dr Duncan Steel
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forreal, didn't he almost die from a stab wound or some shit like that?
Pretty sure he had a couple before his Bad News gimmick. Which is kinda redundant anyway bearing in mind this is about terrible Irish gimmicks which the WWE is currently 0/3 on (and shit Hornswoggle aint even Irish and he got slapped with one, he's just short and happened to be trained by Finlay...)
Pretty reasonable grounds for paranoia.
He's a hero to kids around the globe and makes wishes come true.
Every single time they call him the bare knuckle brawler. It's also what Regal was called by, his history of 'fighting in the streets.' Lots of things that people actually did can still be a stereotype. I mean people were just complaining about the 'fighting family' with Becky.
Isn't that Tanahashi? because I remember it being driven into my head a thousand times by the great Steve Corino during his match at the ROH Ippv.
Dr Duncan Steel
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atleast emma doesn't have a pickpocketing gimmick or a crocodile hunter vignette. we just get this.
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Would probably be a step up from what she's doing right now tbhatleast emma doesn't have a pickpocketing gimmick or a crocodile hunter vignette. we just get this.
Jimmy King
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Legit forgot Emma existed.
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See, I don't see it that way. I think Finlay was great and Sheamus has been alright. Yeah, Sheamus is always telling the dumb stories, but he is treated seriously as a competitor. As far as Becky Lynch goes, it is week one. Give it time before you judge. So, at worst, I'd say they are 2/3.
Which is what will happen to Becky. When your NXT gimmick is so bad that they're having Paige feud with Cameron instead.
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No because then people informed me what else a "pink sock" could mean and that's anything but fun and playful
Dr Duncan Steel
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Only good thing Emma has done.
#FunAndPlayful
on the real, it's wasn't as bad as some made it out to be.
it established that Emma was in fact fun and playful. Making her eventual title contention all the more special.
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Everything can be fun and playful depending on your perspective, friend.
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Becky just fucking went for it for her debut. She'll be dancing with the Funkadactyls soon.
Emma?
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speaks volumes that when folks talk about the successive NXT gimmicks bombing on RAW they forget about her.
He's treated as a serious competitor because he's mates with Hunter, not because of his shite fightin' Irish gimmick. With Lynch the river-dancing is never going to get better, acknowledging she's Irish is one thing but dressing in green and trying to dance to the ring is just embarrassingly cringe worthy.
She'd be so much better with out it.
Only good thing Emma has done.
#FunAndPlayful
ugh
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Just like Eugene or Santino were legit title contenders.
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She was having a backstage conversation with Santino and...Sin Cara on RAW last week. So there's that.
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Irrelevant of why, Sheamus is treated as legitimate. So I don't think they are 0/3. And who knows that she'll keep dancing at the level she did? We don't. And my point was more so that projecting what they'll do with Devitt based on what they did with a Diva is ridiculous. Devitt won't be a joke. You can bank on that. At worst he'll be portrayed similar to Sheamus, and I don't think that's bad.
Hey now, Santino's run in the chamber was one of the best things that year in WWE.
Dr Duncan Steel
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Giant Bernard doesn't have an Armani sponsorship.
dude's an irish Christiano Ronaldo in my eyes.
So does what Sheamus do besides the basis for his entire character right now?
He looks like an overgrown baby! /JBLGiant Bernard doesn't have an Armani sponsorship.
dude's an irish Christiano Ronaldo in my eyes.
You know Giant Bernard was the final signing of johnny ace before Triple H took over right? Can't compare that to now where WWE signs all the top Indie talent now compared to the past. Also, Triple H wanted him and kept going after him for a reason which I doubt is to dance.
It's way different than when every week he'd tell a 10 minute story about his uncle McDevergiant who lived on a farm.
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Are honestly comparing Devitt to Giant Bernard right now? You're joking right? If not, then you are too far gone to argue with anymore.
I like a lot of NXT gimmicks, if they are successfull or not on Raw is another thing; even when creative isn't to blame. Sometimes we like stuff that the majority of the audience doesn't.
Seeing people here reacting to Becky Lynch gimmick should be a clue that NXT gimmicks doesn't get an instant approval despiste of what people say. The same goes for Mojo Rawley or The Ascension. I like NXT gimmicks more than I like the main roster usual gimmicks; it doesn't mean I buy them wholesale.
Where does it say this? Because everyone says Kong and Mistico were Triple H's signings, and they were both before Bernard. Or do we retroactively take everything bad away from Triple? Especially considering Bernard and Triple H went to the same wrestling school.
Come on now. There's a qualitative difference between a character playing their character to get a reaction from the crowd and a character breaking character to awkwardly tell an audience "Hey, cheer me!" If there wasn't, we'd have no need for writers as everyone could just go out and say "I'm the good/bad guy, cheer/boo me!"
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Would not be surprised if Triple H is going to hold back talent until he gains more control of the main show. I don't even know if it's up to him who gets called up but I figure he's probably pissed that his NXT call ups are getting shafted, shitty gimmicks or not.