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June Wrasslin' |OT| Break Out Naan And Do The Needful, It's Time For MaharaJEEEEEZUSS
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SallyIsNow
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Hope Sony announces name changes before someone takes 420PhatBongRipz
Luschient
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The latest from the greatest feud of the past 20 years
Jim Cornette Challenges Russo To Meet Him Face to Face
Jim Cornette Challenges Russo To Meet Him Face to Face
Best YT comment: Jim Cornette's hate of Vince Russo is one of the most pure things I have seen.
TarpitCarnivore
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you should def watch the Omega / Elgin ladder match from last years Dominion
slightconfuse
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Remember when Billy Gunn won king of the ring
Nocturnowl
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I remember Rock burying him afterwards with that amazing promo.
SallyIsNow
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Remember when Billy Gun beat Tanahashi for the IC strap?
Up until Doom came out, I'd say it was the best FPS campaign of the last decade.
and BJ is an incredibley likeable meathead.
Can't trademark real names to stop people form using them when they leave
I remember being a big Billy Gunn fan for a minute as a youth. When my friend got that terrible WWF Attitude game on PS1, I was all about "The One", daddeh!
I still don't hate his wrassle, really. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Nocturnowl
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The entrance theme that asks the question, "what if Raw was an eighties sitcom?"
SallyIsNow
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You motherfucker. I never noticed this. I just fucking Googled it. Nooooooooooooo
Wow, that was really awful.
And the gimmick that asked the question, "what if we just sent Billy Gunn out there​ without a gimmick?"
I didn't know either when I watched. I remember thinking she looked weirdly pale, but didn't know she had died and it was CGI or whatevz.
P.S. She was a great character.
SallyIsNow
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sf2fanatic
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It's the pit. Anything goes in there. Have OwensIsDone shine your steel toe boots before you go.
excelsiorlef
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Jesus Long Beach... Tana vs Billy Gunn is literally worse than an ROH PPV...
The IWGP US tourney is probably going to be the saving grace of the specials.
But I guess they wanted to make sure Okada vs Cody wasn't going to be the worst title match
The IWGP US tourney is probably going to be the saving grace of the specials.
But I guess they wanted to make sure Okada vs Cody wasn't going to be the worst title match
Sweeney Tom
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I think if we had been asked to give our most pessimistic thoughts on New Japan's US debut, we still would have never predicted something as silly as 2017 show main eventers Cody Rhodes and Billy Gunn
I can't even be happy that "well at least neither will win" because Cody will have likely won the ROH title right before, which will just devalue that belt even more regardless
I can't even be happy that "well at least neither will win" because Cody will have likely won the ROH title right before, which will just devalue that belt even more regardless
British Monsoon
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I don't actually think Billy vs Tanahashi will be that bad - if it was a Korakuen main event I'd even be pretty hyped for it, as Billy pretty much won over the Japanese crowd with his performances in the tag league, but I'm not sure how the US crowd are going to react.
These LA cards are certainly a bit of a strange one, on the one hand this is indeed a New Japan show, replete with meaningless undercard tags and some odd title matches that aren't necessarily the very best they could have produced. On the other hand, I imagine many fans were expecting a supershow, not NJPW B-tier PPV cards.
Also, while I can kind of see why New Japan has gone this route, it could easily backfire. If the shows don't deliver beyond "it's New Japan...but in the US!" I imagine there'll be a few pissed off among the hardcore crowd. But they're after attention beyond that hardcore crowd who are already aware of New Japan and bought up all those tickets so quick. So I don't know if Billy and Cody are the best way to get that attention (perhaps they should've given Berty a call) but we'll see.
These LA cards are certainly a bit of a strange one, on the one hand this is indeed a New Japan show, replete with meaningless undercard tags and some odd title matches that aren't necessarily the very best they could have produced. On the other hand, I imagine many fans were expecting a supershow, not NJPW B-tier PPV cards.
Also, while I can kind of see why New Japan has gone this route, it could easily backfire. If the shows don't deliver beyond "it's New Japan...but in the US!" I imagine there'll be a few pissed off among the hardcore crowd. But they're after attention beyond that hardcore crowd who are already aware of New Japan and bought up all those tickets so quick. So I don't know if Billy and Cody are the best way to get that attention (perhaps they should've given Berty a call) but we'll see.
SallyIsNow
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>implying Cody and Billy Gunn won't win
excelsiorlef
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Billy Gunn in 2017.... Christ.
I'm shifting my expectations for those title matches into watching for the lulz category.
Imagine buying tickets for that (long before Dominion) thinking maybe I'll get Okada/Omega, maybe I'll get an IC title match as good as Naito/Elgin with either Naito or Tana.
Only to find you're getting Cody and Billy Gunn.
serenewarfare
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I guess New Japan is banking on the US title tournament being the real draw here and the thing people talk about. But lol at Billy Gunn.
Let's not forget that weeks ago I said Omega would lose to Okada, then they'd make him US champ. He's gonna get a consolation prize.
That's totally going to happen, isn't it?
Let's not forget that weeks ago I said Omega would lose to Okada, then they'd make him US champ. He's gonna get a consolation prize.
That's totally going to happen, isn't it?
excelsiorlef
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The only saving grace is that they're getting Omega/ELgin and Naito/Ishii . Assuming they don't do something fucking stupid like put Juice Robinson over everyone, semi finals in that tourney should be any combinations of Omega, Naito, Lethal, ZSJ... and assuming they're really smart you get a finals of either Omega/Naito or Omega/ZSJ or Naito/ZSJ
Long Beach will live or die on the basis of the US title tourney.
It is incredibly disappointing imo at the level of effort they're putting into these shows. Doesn't make me take their expansion goals too seriously frankly.
ShadowSwordmaster
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I just heard about the US G1 stuff and what the fuck.
excelsiorlef
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Also no Jr Heavyweight Championship match has been announced either... So that might not even be on the line at Long Beach (though it could be announced for the 2nd show as not all those matches are out yet)
FlammableD
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Oliver has a history with graps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIZWK3hnIGo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqDWITDPEI
excelsiorlef
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Unless they're giving it to Jay Leathal/ZSJ most of the guys are mainstay NJPW guys so I'm guessing it'll be defended in Japan and the US
SallyIsNow
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It's an actual Championship that can be defended.
Sweeney Tom
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I'm expecting Elgin to win and Omega and/or Naito eliminated in the first round
That Gunn match is going to be a shitshow no matter what. And yeah you could say "Tana's hurt and needs a rest anyway, he won't have to put in a lot of effort against an easy opponent" which I'd be more inclined to agree with if the whole build for this match
hadn't happened pre-injury
Sweeney Tom
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2017 US wrestling in 3 pictures
Sweeney Tom
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Billy Gunn?
Tested positive for roids in a bodybuilding contest while he was employed as an agent
Because a company with an actual wellness policy busted Billy Gunn for being on the juice
picture of brock here
Wasn't he not an actual 'performer' though? Wasn't he just a trainer or something at NXT? You'd think it'd be ... not as bad if he's not actually wrestling.
He was juicing for some competition.
Wasn't he still a part time performer for the company when he got got?
I guess his contract probably had him like that. If I recall it was wellll after their New Age Outlaws short run
Sweeney Tom
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In that position it honestly does make it worse because not only would he be doing it obviously for bodybuilding competitions, but he'd also at least be in a position to distribute what he takes to the students he trains at the Performance Center. It'd have looked terrible if they kept him after his positive test was made public in that position
British Monsoon
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BUSHI's going to be challenging on the 6/27 Kizuna Road show, so if there is a defence in Long Beach it'll be announced after that. If KUSHIDA retains he could defend against any of the 3 guys he owes title shots to, I guess: Tiger Mask, ACH and El Desperado. If BUSHI wins, they could do a rematch in LA, or an ROH TV vs IWGP Jr. match.