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June Wrasslin |OT| MADNESS
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Oh fuck. I like this one!Jamie OD said:
Bootaaay said:
So the reruns of Raw had part of Punk's promo edited out? Was shown in full in Australia, so they certainly had the chance to edit it out in time for International viewings.
... Now that I think about it, maybe a part or two was edited out. Mainly the jab at the USA Network? Regardless, all which had substance was still there.
... Now that I think about it, maybe a part or two was edited out. Mainly the jab at the USA Network? Regardless, all which had substance was still there.
EraldoCoil
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"Breaking the fourth wall"
Net_Wrecker said:
Never
Can we not be jaded for one minute and forget about the Nexus angle of last year? Even if Super Cena wins, there are ways to play this angle out in favor of both Cena and Punk and get this business back on track. They aren't dealing with green as goose-shit FCW rookies where at the end of day, they just lost faith in their credibility.
Oh and ..July Wrasslin |OT| Hey, Colt Cabana, How Ya Doing?
Speaking of Colt ..
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/30/2292336/colt-cabana-thanks-friend-wwe.html
Former WWE star Colt Cabana was interviewed this week by the Miami Herald and had a lot to say about CM Punk's shoot promo from RAW. Colt says that Punk's rant was almost entirely reality-based and reflected the frustrations Punk has felt in WWE since his first days with the company.
That whole thing has been building up forever, Cabana said. Personally, for almost forever, his whole time there, he is able to say this to me in the comfort of my house or his house.
"From being laughed at by the trainers in Ohio Valley Wrestling to Paul [Heyman] finally bringing him up and everybody treating him like dirt, telling him he has an attitude problem and calling him the King of the Indies. Just looking down on him, he just felt shunned his whole time there. It was a complete struggle.
Many are still under the impression that this angle is a storyline and that Punk will remain with WWE following his contract expiring the day after his title shot at Money In The Bank on 7/17, but Punk has been burnt out for a long time and is at the point where he just wants out.
The power of him not really caring because he was ready to leave I always said the power of not giving a s--- is so important, Cabana said. He is really at the point where he just wants to get out of there. Its too frustrating for him. If he said anything that made anybody mad, what are they going to do to him? Not re-sign him? He doesnt want to be there."
So I think that idea is so powerful. He is so strong in his beliefs with the straight edge lifestyle. By being how strong headed that he is, he was able to have the power to go out on television and say what probably every other wrestler has wanted to say. He made unbelievable television. He made unbelievable history in wrestling."
Punk may be on his way out of WWE, but Colt thinks his promo from RAW has the potential to change entire industry:
He almost has the ability to change professional wrestling as we know it. It has been so stagnant and vanilla. It kind of shook up the wrestling world because of his real life frustrations.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/30/2292336/colt-cabana-thanks-friend-wwe.html
Former WWE star Colt Cabana was interviewed this week by the Miami Herald and had a lot to say about CM Punk's shoot promo from RAW. Colt says that Punk's rant was almost entirely reality-based and reflected the frustrations Punk has felt in WWE since his first days with the company.
That whole thing has been building up forever, Cabana said. Personally, for almost forever, his whole time there, he is able to say this to me in the comfort of my house or his house.
"From being laughed at by the trainers in Ohio Valley Wrestling to Paul [Heyman] finally bringing him up and everybody treating him like dirt, telling him he has an attitude problem and calling him the King of the Indies. Just looking down on him, he just felt shunned his whole time there. It was a complete struggle.
Many are still under the impression that this angle is a storyline and that Punk will remain with WWE following his contract expiring the day after his title shot at Money In The Bank on 7/17, but Punk has been burnt out for a long time and is at the point where he just wants out.
The power of him not really caring because he was ready to leave I always said the power of not giving a s--- is so important, Cabana said. He is really at the point where he just wants to get out of there. Its too frustrating for him. If he said anything that made anybody mad, what are they going to do to him? Not re-sign him? He doesnt want to be there."
So I think that idea is so powerful. He is so strong in his beliefs with the straight edge lifestyle. By being how strong headed that he is, he was able to have the power to go out on television and say what probably every other wrestler has wanted to say. He made unbelievable television. He made unbelievable history in wrestling."
Punk may be on his way out of WWE, but Colt thinks his promo from RAW has the potential to change entire industry:
He almost has the ability to change professional wrestling as we know it. It has been so stagnant and vanilla. It kind of shook up the wrestling world because of his real life frustrations.
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Let's cast our lots right now. Vote. Who thinks the WWE will fumble this angle (Cener wins, Punk leaves, and all our hopefulness is gone) or who thinks they'll knock it out of the park (any ending different than the previous)? Vote!
Based on WWE's track record, I think they'll fumble. They've burned me too hard in the past for me to believe they'll do right.
Based on WWE's track record, I think they'll fumble. They've burned me too hard in the past for me to believe they'll do right.
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Sunflower said:
British Monsoon
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Odds will be overcome.
funkystudent
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The July cm punk thread of wrestling, shooting and inevitably jobbing.
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DMczaf said:
Hey we don't pay the bills either...often.
funkystudent
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Everyone said the same about nexus last year.sajj316 said:
funkystudent
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Sunflower said:
Maybe Vince needs a lamp?
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sajj316 said:
God DAMN.
Dork Knight
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Man, you guys are cynical. Not that I blame you (haha!), but shit!
Of course, looking at the WWE's track record the past 2-3 years, logic says they'll fuck this angle up. Sure, can't argue that.
But think about it: Sometimes (keyword: *sometimes*) they actually do something right (HBK/Jericho, HBK/Taker, etc.). So I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Especially because this particular angle has gotten the most buzz since Nexus, and unlike Nexus, it's centered around a wrestler who isn't green as grass.
PPV numbers are down, SmackDown numbers are down, the product is stale -- something has to change eventually.
Or not.
LOL!
Of course, looking at the WWE's track record the past 2-3 years, logic says they'll fuck this angle up. Sure, can't argue that.
But think about it: Sometimes (keyword: *sometimes*) they actually do something right (HBK/Jericho, HBK/Taker, etc.). So I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Especially because this particular angle has gotten the most buzz since Nexus, and unlike Nexus, it's centered around a wrestler who isn't green as grass.
PPV numbers are down, SmackDown numbers are down, the product is stale -- something has to change eventually.
Or not.
LOL!
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JdFoX187 said:
What? The Tornado Tag match was pretty good as well as Evan Bourne's match vs Sin Cara.
worldrunover
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sajj316 said:
Call me crazy but I think Canaba is in on the work (at least for this interview). CM Punk is staying! Believe!
As for the angle, I've said it before, stay or go, it just makes too much sense NOT to have Punk win at MitB.
Stay: Punk starts a feud with Cena and gains incredible heat (moreso than now)
Leaves: Punk wins the belt, then the MitB winner cashes in on him and becomes so ridiculously over it'd be crazy.
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I wanna say that Punk wins the belt, then he loses it the next night on Raw when the MitB winner cashes in.
Do we know who's gonna be in the Smackdown match yet? I can't see anybody in the Raw match winning the belt right now.
Do we know who's gonna be in the Smackdown match yet? I can't see anybody in the Raw match winning the belt right now.
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Alright, who thinks Punk has signed a new contract or extension? We all know the WWE -can- keep secrets when it wants to.
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There's been nothing in the last few years that shows that WWE creative is interested in anything resembling an interesting, long term storyline, so what will happen is Cena Wins Lol. Or, Punk wins and then gets MITB winner cashing in and taking the belt off him before the show ends.
It would be great to see Punk win and leave with the belt. Vince declares the title vacant on Raw the next night and it's Cena vs Del Rio for the vacant title. Punk defends the title against scrubs at indie shows for a few weeks and the footage "leaks" online and on Raw. Build to Cena vs Punk at Summerslam for the "real" championship. Throw in some great promo work by Punk and even The Rock showing up to taunt Cena that he isn't really the champ.
Or.......Cena debuts a new shirt. And overcomes odds.
It would be great to see Punk win and leave with the belt. Vince declares the title vacant on Raw the next night and it's Cena vs Del Rio for the vacant title. Punk defends the title against scrubs at indie shows for a few weeks and the footage "leaks" online and on Raw. Build to Cena vs Punk at Summerslam for the "real" championship. Throw in some great promo work by Punk and even The Rock showing up to taunt Cena that he isn't really the champ.
Or.......Cena debuts a new shirt. And overcomes odds.
Is more money and a semi main event push really worth it when you hate the current product and working environment?Sunflower said:
It's like patching up giant holes with band aids, the main issues will still be there. But who really knows where Punk stands right now. He has no wife, no kids, doesn't seem like a big spender, so he could be very comfortable as far as money is concerned, to just not give a shit and turn down more money from WWE.
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Jamie OD said:
Gets my vote. (Edited out the unneeded comma.)
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evil ways said:
He also owns the rights to his name, so he could work a much lighter schedule on the indie scene, sell his own t shirts (@ 100% profit on a website) and chill out for a year or two.
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All Wheels Wrestling results;
Lol, 5 minute iron man matches? Shwagg Dutt? Oh dear.
RPM (Jay Lethal) defeated Dubai (Shawn Daivari) in the first match which was a five minute match where the winner got the most falls during the five minute time period.
The Human Cyclone Aaron Aguilera defeated Schwagg Dutt (Sonjay Dutt) 4 falls to none in another five minute match.
Shwagg Dutt (Sonjay Dutt) defeated Dubai (Shawn Daivari), The Human Cyclone Aaron Aguilera, and RPM (Jay Lethal) in an Ultimate X Match when he grabbed the All Wheels Wrestling Logo hanging over the ring.
The Human Cyclone Aaron Aguilera defeated Schwagg Dutt (Sonjay Dutt) 4 falls to none in another five minute match.
Shwagg Dutt (Sonjay Dutt) defeated Dubai (Shawn Daivari), The Human Cyclone Aaron Aguilera, and RPM (Jay Lethal) in an Ultimate X Match when he grabbed the All Wheels Wrestling Logo hanging over the ring.
Lol, 5 minute iron man matches? Shwagg Dutt? Oh dear.
spindashing
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Okay, excuse my ignorance but what is All Wheels Wrestling? I saw Jay Lethal in some CAW worthy attire and I thought it could have been some sort of a photoshop.
Schwagg Dutt, oh man... :lol
Schwagg Dutt, oh man... :lol
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I want to believe.sajj316 said:
But Stephanie, Vince, and John Laurinitis are simply too inept. This will be Nexus 2.0 and Cena will prevail again. Vince just doesn't understand that the kid-friendly approach is not as sustainable as the smart-friendly approach.
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spindashing said:
No, it's all to real. It's Bischoff's new TNA spin-off for some racing channel. The wrestlers are part of 4 racing themed teams who compete each season for a championship cup.
spindashing
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Thanks for the info, guys.
Where's Sparkplug Bob Holly when you need him? :lol
Where's Sparkplug Bob Holly when you need him? :lol
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Photo from Dick Togo's retirement match;
Japanese fans are crazy with their colour coordinated streamers.
Japanese fans are crazy with their colour coordinated streamers.
The best part about punk is his ability to just out of nowhere propel himself to the main event, even during/after a really, really bad angle.
He did it after he was squashed by taker, he did it when he spent a month or two off injured, he did it this week, too.
Punk has the ability to snatch the spotlight and make himself the talk of the wrestling industry like only a handful of individuals do, especially with the current batch of writers.
I can only imagine the kinds of work he could have done if he were in the WWF or WCW or even ECW during the attitude era instead of the indy scene and IWA Mid-South.
He did it after he was squashed by taker, he did it when he spent a month or two off injured, he did it this week, too.
Punk has the ability to snatch the spotlight and make himself the talk of the wrestling industry like only a handful of individuals do, especially with the current batch of writers.
I can only imagine the kinds of work he could have done if he were in the WWF or WCW or even ECW during the attitude era instead of the indy scene and IWA Mid-South.
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Bootaaay said:
So....
three matches
5 minutes long
(truthfully, a
mini-ironman
GaimeGuy said:
Now that you talk about this, if remeber correctly the best match of Over The limit 2010 was Punk vs Mysterio, and it was preceded by a lose at mania, and win at extreme rules.
My point is, no matter what, this is the only thing i remeber from that PPV and im certain, that many of the only things i rember from raw or Smackdown are from CM Punk itself
So.... Please dont go! Dont goooo
yes im hearing the song
no the lyrics had nothing to do with this
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WWE Logic meme incoming:
OK now that I posted those images out of the way, in regards to a previous discussion a few pages back, I don't have an issue with John Cena.
I think he's a great worker, and of course like every good worker, there are some aspects people will like and some aspects people won't like. I just feel like while he's always overcoming odds all the time, while it'll still sell merch to all the Little Jimmy's out there and get the parents to buy the PPV, it's detrimental to the entire product as a whole, and that's a long term problem. When CM Punk mentioned in that shoot promo on RAW that he hates the idea that John Cena is the "best", that hit all the bases to me as to why I don't like Cena being WWE Creative's core focus for most of RAW.
I mean, to me, at this point in his career, Cena has nothing to lose but the heels he fights against have everything to gain. To me, he's essentially "bulletproof".
I mean honestly, if CM Punk wins this feud, Cena will not look bad at all and the storyline will get a hell of a lot more interesting. People will still buy his shirts, still buy anything with his face on it and things won't revert to the status quo where people cry "same old shit" over and over.
Then again, seeing Creative drop the ball multiple times, I don't exactly have that hope that people still want to hold on to.
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