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Seriously, it's not worth doing because you won't read it. You'd rather just complain about the show you love. It wouldn't be constructive because you refuse to learn.
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Seriously, it's not worth doing because you won't read it. You'd rather just complain about the show you love. It wouldn't be constructive because you refuse to learn.
Bluekaveli
Member
You're right, I forgot that correct logic doesn't or hasn't been applied for 16 years or so.
depends on how you see it, maybe some of them would've made it to the main event and stayed there at some point instead of being sent to Vince's limbo for losing to Cena
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Again it's symptomatic of how the losses and booking matter. If they don't give a shit about you, you don't matter, you're irrelevant, you're replaceable. There are 4 guys who are not replaceable.
Cena
Reigns
HHH
Rock
There's a reason you'll never see Rock lose to someone in 6 seconds, or Cena get beat up until he cries and begs for mercy, but Bray can. One of those 3 people doesn't matter, and it shows in the Ls he constantly takes
Cena
Reigns
HHH
Rock
There's a reason you'll never see Rock lose to someone in 6 seconds, or Cena get beat up until he cries and begs for mercy, but Bray can. One of those 3 people doesn't matter, and it shows in the Ls he constantly takes
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Deleted member 47027
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It's easy to say that, but there's no way to know. Historically, nothing was hurt by bringing in the Rock, only helped. Bigger audience. People (not your weekly wrasslin fans, but the more casual fans) wanted to see the Rock again.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Ryback just wrote an essay about how no, it's actually not
I don't think this is realistic. The guys that feuded with Cena never would have been anything more. Not because I don't think they have the talent, but because it seems like the people in charge think there's not enough room at the top of the card.
Where did you get the idea that I wouldn't read it? Because I posted a Scott Hall gif in response to your stupid "pain in the ass" comment? You're doing an awful lot of projecting here in order to maintain your own narrative.
Lightning Count
Member
Getting a bit mad at ticketmaster, where are my NXT tickets assholes? If I have to go to the arena box office to get replacements I won't be happy.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Overnights: NBA highest rated game ever on cable. 4 times what the Stanley Cup game got
Buckle up
Buckle up
slightconfuse
Banned
Which is why WM 29 did less buys than 28?
giancarlo123x
Banned
We don't know yet. Maybe he'll go over the first time like Owens did.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
So what was the HAITCH thing they kept promoing? Was it really just for the new game?
heh I mean you're not wrong, but idealistically you know what I mean
Lightning Count
Member
Rewatching the Angle vs Edge cage match from Smackdown 2002, still a great watch.
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Deleted member 47027
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What do you think it is?
WWE pushing for higher exposure with more outlets. Leveraging Rock's star power. And it worked, as evidenced by the buys.
UberTag
Member
If he does it won't be as clean as Owens' win.
And even that is a dubious proposition. Having backup at ringside sure didn't help Bray get many wins against Cena. Ditto for Barrett.
Casuals don't pay the bills though. Casuals aren't the ones who sub to the Network, or go to house shows, or Raw, or Smackdown, or buy the merch... WM would have "sold out" (I use the term loosely when it's WWE lol) with or without the Rock.
And although it wasn't the main reason Punk left, I'm fairly certain that being fucked over by Rock was a big factor in his decision.
Probably because he thought if he left on good terms he might come back as part time himself...
How bad is it gonna be ?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
lmao Alvarez calling for a "cup on a pole" match for Ziggler/Corbin
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Won't be in till Wednesday due to holiday. That said, TV people already confirming overnights that there was around 35 mil viewers between the two games. If even 3 mil viewers were around for 2 of Raw's 3 hours, I'd be amazed
I wanted them to hit TNA's highest ever rating this year but I thought I'd have to wait till football season.
God is great.
inb4 "ratings dont matter"
Roland_Gunner
Member
This is all true but I still love them when Rusev's involved. He's great and pointing out real problems with the US to get heat. Best heel in the company.
Bluekaveli
Member
I don't understand why wCw didn't pay to have Buff use "Some like it hot" as his theme lol!
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Deleted member 47027
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It was a huge deal. Intense game. Not surprising. No booking of any kind could have changed that. Fortunately it doesn't matter when its a scenario like this, and there won't be a kneejerk reaction, since it had nothing to do with the strength of WWE's show.
Except it doesn't work outside the US.
Like the pro-military speeches Cena makes. They look bad to anyone outside the US and it's pure propaganda. It's bad.
Lightning Count
Member
Cena buries people, which is why I am opposed to this AJ vs Cena feud which WWE is keen to push.
Bluekaveli
Member
Rightfully so I'd fall asleep on the biggest waste of trash known as Stacy Carter. Well one of them.
plagiarize
Banned
It works fine outside the US. We root for the heel. Rusev's war against the US has provided me with hours of enjoyment.
So many people failed America. So many. Cena was never going to, obviously... I knew that from the very beginning because Rusev was clearly on the Umaga path to a Cena loss... but the year or so or whatever it was building up to that. It was gold.
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I think we have just had some issues with communication. When I say Cena elevates people, I don't mean "puts them at his level" or even beyond. He helps people by working with them. He elevated Rusev, who was doing very well on his own but you know WWE booking, he would have had to eat a loss somewhere, sometime, had Cena not come along and wanted to keep him unbeaten. Barrett, while being a part of a hot angle, needed to go to the top with it and did. Pretend Cena was never involved. Then what was the Nexus? What would have happened with Barrett? I don't have many prospects. He elevated Evan Bourne, who turned out to be not worth the paper his contract was written on due to drug use. He brought the best out of Cesaro and helped him, despite his handicap. He HELPS people, I'm not saying he's training his replacements. It's simple.
avengers23
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Don't you know it's all about how many views the clips on YouTube get now (even though YouTube monetization is peanuts compared to the TV contract revenue and the ad revenue)?
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Deleted member 47027
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Different gauge, anything that puts eyes on the product is important to use. It's no replacement for being on tv though. No need to pretend that YouTube is competitive with the advertising contracts on tv, that's just being dense on purpose.
Bluekaveli
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Nocturnowl, why doesn't Kane get his ass on a bike with fire and ride with Taker?
avengers23
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UrbanDandy
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Straight off the first page, and it's a shooting range.
I don't like having someone tell me their country is so good and it has freedom (implying others don't have) and then beating the foreign threat. I find it insulting.
I know Vince loves the US and loves to spew bullshit about it but I would like the WWE to realize that they have fans outside of it and could (should?) be more respectful towards it.
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Good thing they've toned it down a lot. You would have hated this Hulk Hogan guy from days of yore.
avengers23
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Bluekaveli
Member
Good god Sting looks bad here.
Roland_Gunner
Member
Hell, a decent chunk of people in the US root for Rusev. He's awesome and has an amazingly hot valet / fiance. Rusev's a better ambassador for international wrestling than most faces.
FlammableD
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slightconfuse
Banned
US belt so elevated
heh, the US open challenge was fun for the first 1523 weeks, then it got kinda old
What about what Brock did to Cena?