June Wrasslin' |OT| ROH! NXT Season Finale! Daniel Bryan!

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eggybob said:
So i've just woken up. . .and am really confused.
Is he gone or is this just storyline?

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Yet another big angle screwed up due to incompetence and petty bullshit? Why am I not surprised..

Must be a work.
Then again if it is a work they're doing a shitty job with it. Good lord it's a mess.
 
If not a work then WWE have dropped the ball, if they drop the storyline because of it even worse.

The guy was on a massive roll and now could go to TNA and give them a major boost.

EDIT: The irony is I Remember Cena choking out both Umaga (with the ropes) and JBL (with handcuffs) in that last few years
 
Dropped the ball? Bryan being gone does take away from the nxt angle a little bit, but the face of the nxt invasion is Barrett, not Bryan.

And nobody gives a shit about Bryan other than internet smarks so I don't see how it would automatically boost tna if he showed up there.
 
Lost Fragment said:
Dropped the ball? Bryan being gone does take away from the nxt angle a little bit, but the face of the nxt invasion is Barrett, not Bryan.

And nobody gives a shit about Bryan other than internet smarks so I don't see how it would automatically boost tna if he showed up there.

You're Michael Cole, aren't you?
 
Lost Fragment said:
Dropped the ball? Bryan being gone does take away from the nxt angle a little bit, but the face of the nxt invasion is Barrett, not Bryan.

And nobody gives a shit about Bryan other than internet smarks so I don't see how it would automatically boost tna if he showed up there.
But Bryan is by far the best worker out of the group the guy out of the group who could be relied on to be able to hang with the top name guys. Losing him really takes away credibility that the group desperatly need.
 
Jeff Albertson said:
If not a work then WWE have dropped the ball, if they drop the storyline because of it even worse.

The guy was on a massive roll and now could go to TNA and give them a major boost.

EDIT: The irony is I Remember Cena choking out both Umaga (with the ropes) and JBL (with handcuffs) in that last few years

My numbers may be slightly off, but I believe JBL was in 2005 and Umaga was at Rumble 2007, which would both be before the Benoit incident, which is where they seem to have the problem with.

And both before their hardcore push towards PG.
 
If real it is a goddamned stupid move.
Bryan has been gold through all of this and has been a nice bit of life in the zombie that is the WWE.
Hell, maybe kids will think that it is fun to handcuff their friends to something and take hair clippers to their bloody skulls.
Rey needs to go too!
 
Well that blows, although it seems like he'll be back eventually. If it took until Friday for him to get fired it means there must have been a lot of people who didn't want him gone.
 
At first I was thinking this was kayfabe to try and get the smarks but the more and more I read, the more I think this may be real. If so...sucks for the E. I will be eagerly watching this situation. IF he goes to TNA, he'll be wasted. Although if they allow him to do some "shoots", things could get quite interesting indeed.
 
Penguin said:
My numbers may be slightly off, but I believe JBL was in 2005 and Umaga was at Rumble 2007, which would both be before the Benoit incident, which is where they seem to have the problem with.

And both before their hardcore push towards PG.

I thought JBL was in their first blood match at ONS 2008 but I may be confused
 
Linkified said:
Yeah but why not remove his account from NXT and wwe universe twitter accounts and recreate a NXT version of the accoiunt and have it linking to that on WWE.com
What the fuck are you talking about? If you don't understand how Twitter works, don't comment on it.

It's also ridiculous to expect the company to have every single connection to Danielson corrected immediately.
 
John Cena's twitter said he suffered a concussion earlier, but then he erased that note and posted this little bad boy:

John Cena's Twitter said:
CeNation. I will not be out of action. I have taken and passed Impact testing, and I can deal with mine hip and spine issues. Never give up

SIGH.

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Seems like such a stupid rule to enforce. I can't see how anybody would relate a WWE wrestler choking another to the Benoit tragedy. Really feel bad for Danielson given the steps he's taken, finally getting to life-goal he's taken out of it because of a rule he didn't know about. I especially find it unfair they're holding Danielson alone liable, if the producer currently controlling the camera's at the time isn't also fired.

With that said I swore Young was was going to choke Cena with the ring-ropes at one point but thought otherwise for some unknown reason. Also the way they edited out just about everything Bryan did was always a little suspect, I even pointed that out here.

Though I'll watch RAW on Monday, if there'd no mention of "Daniel Bryan" then I'll stop watching RAW until there is. Wade is good, and the invasion angle is good; but not enough to make me go through something akin to the 2 hours 50 minutes prior to it starting last Monday again.
 
Spirit of Jazz said:
With that said I swore Young was was going to choke Cena with the ring-ropes at one point but thought otherwise for some unknown reason. Also the way they edited out just about everything Bryan did was always a little suspect, I even pointed that out here.
I remember one-man-rockband guy(the one who always puckers his lips) seemed to try at one point, then stopped midway as well...hmmm...
 
Much of Danielson's storyline in the WWE so far has overtly been about working the internet fans, so it would not at all suprise me to find that this whole situation is just part of the larger storyline. Even if the stuff about Danielson being a scapegoat because Linda's people found issue with his actions is true, WWE would be insane to lose such a talented worker and i'd bank on seeing him back on TV before too long (maybe after a short return to the indies - so many matches i'd love to see, Hero/Danielson rematch, Fallen Angel/Danielson, Richards/Danielson, Omega/Danielson etc).
 
Meltzer saying that someone very important must have complained makes me think it was probably Mattel. Part of the reason WWE went PG was to get the lucrative toy deal with them.
 
If the E' wanted him back, he will be back. Matt left when the Lita/Hardy/Edge shit blew up in the WWE's face and they brought him back when the heat cooled down.
 
I blame the OP of the June GAF thread for this nonsense due to its initial reference of all things Daniel Bryan. You jinxed the guy. Now look what you've done O Faceless One!
 
avatar299 said:
If the E' wanted him back, he will be back. Matt left when the Lita/Hardy/Edge shit blew up in the WWE's face and they brought him back when the heat cooled down.

That was more to do with Matt wanting to leave though. Just seems really harsh that they fired him if they want him back.

Take drugs, be related directly to what Benoit did (and the vast majority of tragedies when it come to wrestlers), be a risk to yourself and those around you, have a huge negative impression on the company and industry: Have two more goes at it!

Work a guy with a tie when you're told do assault a whole bunch of innocent non-wrestlers, which really can't be related to the numerous wrestling tragedies without a lot of though: Fired!

Just seems like a really stupid policy to have, especially if people are trying to argue kids will try to emulate that and actual wrestling manoeuvres. I mean that's the most compelling reasoning for it being a work, but policies can really be that stupid and the evidence for it being legit is far more comprehensive.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Kusagari, remember when you wrote that this was clearly a work? :)

Hey, you have to admit this was completely out of left field. I'll admit straight up I was wrong. I'm not one of the people on wrestlecrap or something still thinking this is a work. :lol
 
Listening to audio report just now with Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez. Meltzer is saying he was told that there was "no logic" to the decision. The call came from Vince but he was pressured into it by someone from outside of the company who is very important to them. Danielson is supposedly now looking for Indy dates. Still has 90 day no compete clause. Internally people were saying "we just handed TNA a main eventer in 90 days" but Danielson was told by WWE that he will be able to be back with them in the future.
Says that in theory it COULD still be a work but if it is then they are working the entire company (including office guys like Marketing) which would't make much sense.
Says that currently there is a "much bigger situation going on with a much bigger name that would just boggle your mind."
 
smh

DKehoe said:
Danielson is supposedly now looking for Indy dates. Still has 90 day no compete clause. Internally people were saying "we just handed TNA a main eventer in 90 days" but Danielson was told by WWE that he will be able to be back with them in the future.

:lol :lol :lol

If he goes to TNA, he's gonna get a push for 2 or 3 months and then they're gonna forget all about him and spend the rest of his career as a midcarder.
 
Cena Choked JBL with the ring ropes at One Night Stand 2008.

Its okay when other people do it but not okay when you do it.

Its Hassan all over again:lol

or a terrible work.
 
:lol :lol :lol

Every single time WWE gets me back on board they immediately do something to make me bail out again. This whole Danielson saga encompasses everything wrong with WWE nowadays: From the ridiculousness of the PG standards, to the short sighted nature of the people in charge, back stage politics and egos diminishing the product, and of course a complete and utter lack of logic from top to bottom.

It probably would've happened anyway but without Dragon the NXTWO angle is guaranteed to shrivel down to the usual predictable WWE garbage. Eventually Otunga will start to jockey Barrett for the leadership role and the group will split. 3-4 guys will end up with actual WWE futures the rest will receive endeavors.
 
So if this is true, they just gave this guy a massive rub and build up. Hell, the last thing he did on TV was spit on the franchise's face and tell him "You are not better than me!", proceeding to kick him in the head. Imagine how that blows over if the joins TNA.
 
krae_man said:
Cena Choked JBL with the ring ropes at One Night Stand 2008.
ONS was before WWE went PG13. Besides, I think it PPVs and regular tv shows has different guidelines. Hell it it wasn't live on RAW, probably Daniel wouldn't be fired just got some warning.

I'm still hoping its some kind of work. If not, It's WWE I lost all reasons to watch WWE shows. Once again.
 
Lebron said:
Now this sounds like the WWE I know. Way to fuck that one up, fellas.

Its funny how whenever they actually do something awesome reactions are usually some along the lines of, "Holy Shit this is awesome...please don't fuck this up!"
:lol
 
The whole NXT invasion thing was the best thing I've seen on RAW in a LONG time, and Daniel Bryan is without doubt the best of the NXT rookies, and then this happens? God I hope it's a work.
 
Polk said:
ONS was before WWE went PG13. Besides, I think it PPVs and regular tv shows has different guidelines. Hell it it wasn't live on RAW, probably Daniel wouldn't be fired just got some warning.

I'm still hoping its some kind of work. If not, It's WWE I lost all reasons to watch WWE shows. Once again.

That's not the point. The point is how can you have an anti choke policy if you book a finish to include a choke?
 
Although it isn't recent, Kane hooking a car battery and jumper cables to someone's testicles and frying them is well beyond anything I've seen in WWE. That's borderline terrorism :^/
 
Nameless said:
Or the month before when a 65 year old man was hit with chair shots for 10 minutes?

But the kids watching don't have access to chairs? o_O

To add to all of this - the video from Raw has been removed from WWE.com at some point today
 
I have no problem with Danielson leaving, Barrett has always been the stand-out guy in NXT. Still excited about the angle and Danielson leaving doesn't magically make the WWE writing horrible. The angle was/is gonna succeed with or without any singular wrestler and the writing will be horrible/have it's moments without him.

Just alot of internet fanboys over-reacting.
 
krae_man said:
That's not the point. The point is how can you have an anti choke policy if you book a finish to include a choke?

That was two years ago, they also allowed blood back then.

Its not like this was a PPV last Sunday
 
BigBlackGamer said:
I have no problem with Danielson leaving, Barrett has always been the stand-out guy in NXT. Still excited about the angle and Danielson leaving doesn't magically make the WWE writing horrible. The angle was/is gonna succeed with or without any singular wrestler and the writing will be horrible/have it's moments without him.

Just alot of internet fanboys over-reacting.
Agreed. I also think a lot of people are acting like this isn't a business and is just a place for your dreams to come true. When a sponsor or partner says something was too much, you either drop the sponsor or the person responsible. They made a sensible choice, considering they can just rehire him again in a few months when the heat is off.
 
BigBlackGamer said:
I have no problem with Danielson leaving, Barrett has always been booked to be the stand-out guy in NXT.

Fixed.

They were pretty much equal in every other category, with Wade winning in the looks department. If Danielson was given the same push as Wade, the results would have been better based on ringwork alone. As far as being a breakout star, Danielson has more tools than anyone to debut in WWE this year, hell in recent memory
 
DKehoe said:
Listening to audio report just now with Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez. Meltzer is saying he was told that there was "no logic" to the decision. The call came from Vince but he was pressured into it by someone from outside of the company who is very important to them. Danielson is supposedly now looking for Indy dates. Still has 90 day no compete clause. Internally people were saying "we just handed TNA a main eventer in 90 days" but Danielson was told by WWE that he will be able to be back with them in the future.
Says that in theory it COULD still be a work but if it is then they are working the entire company (including office guys like Marketing) which would't make much sense.
Says that currently there is a "much bigger situation going on with a much bigger name that would just boggle your mind."
No offense but if the crux of your creative programming is at the mercy of outside forces (I'm not talking about shareholders here but people with greater influence than even Vince) then you might as well just throw in the towel.

The hypocrisy in place of this not being a work... in particular after the absolute crapfest that was the first 170 minutes of RAW prior to the one element of the program that was any decent... should rob whatever trust is left from any fan that remains to invest in anyone or any program put forward by the WWE. Why should you care about Cena, Edge or anyone if Mattel or Linda's political allies or some lobby group can get them fired and pulled from WWE programming at any moment simply because they did their jobs well?

A legit Danielson firing that cuts the best angle in 5 years out from its knees coupled with a Heyman signing by TNA (Dixie's endless twittering had better be about that or she's insane) would represent the single most impactful power shift in the industry since WWE bought WCW.

See... I can do hyperbole.
:lol
 
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