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June Wrasslin |OT| When you lose, you're a jobber, when you win, you're Cena.
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British Monsoon
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I know it's kind of become a joke now about ROH and face champions - but I'm sure Punk could have had a face title run just fine, considering how over he was at the time. I think the problem lies in a combination of ROH not pulling the trigger fast enough, and a lack of heels the fans truly hated. Sure, fans would boo Aries, Danielson, Aries the second time round, etc, because they were heels, but they still loved the hell out of those guys. But you look at Xavier - everyone fucking hated Xavier, Joe beat him and everyone loved Joe more than they did already. Then you've got face champions the fans turned on, like Nigel, whose reign dragged on and on, but was seemingly set up to put over Tyler Black huge, then, for whatever reason, we got an awful Jerry Lynn title reign no one wanted followed by half a year with heel-Aries as champ. But no one really hated Aries. He was a heel, but the fans loved his gimmick, and he was just so damn good that he was hard to truly hate - but Xavier? He fucking sucked. Nigel? He'd become so stale. Those were the perfect opportunities for a good face run, and they took that opportunity with Joe, but not with Tyler. In fact, the last successful face champ they had was Eddie Edwards - it came out of nowhere, just as people were getting sick of Roderick as champ and just as Eddie's star was rising. It's just a shame they fed him to Davey so quickly.
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On my flight down to Miami for WM this year we switched planes in Minnesota. On the flight from Minnesota just as we were descending into Miami my friend noticed an older dude up in first class wearing a WWE All Stars t-shirt checking the overhead storage compartments.
My friend pointed this out to me and said "Look at the mark in the All Stars shirt", I had to look for a few seconds before responding "That's Roddy Piper...". We were sort of walking near him on the way to baggage deciding whether or not to talk to him.Then as we left the security area he got swarmed by a bunch of d-bag fans waiting with merch to be signed.
I sort of get now why Punk is always complaining about airport fans, fucking vultures.
EDIT: Just read the Piper story at that link. Now I'm really pissed that I didn't bother talking to him.
Kaitlyn, just like my japanese anime!
Arrowgigantic
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Glad they were able to get an interview with him before he went to his remedial English class.
Re: Kenny Dykstra interview,
Not surprising Cena was fucking any woman that sniffed him. Shame that Mickie got stupid over him and after the fall out was mocked on TV before being fired. I also almost want Kenny to out the other diva.
Also not surprising to hear him speak about how everyone is walking on eggshells backstage. Everyone wants them to grow a pair but if they do they'll get "heat" backstage. These guys are boned if they do and boned if they don't.
Not surprising Cena was fucking any woman that sniffed him. Shame that Mickie got stupid over him and after the fall out was mocked on TV before being fired. I also almost want Kenny to out the other diva.
Also not surprising to hear him speak about how everyone is walking on eggshells backstage. Everyone wants them to grow a pair but if they do they'll get "heat" backstage. These guys are boned if they do and boned if they don't.
NihonTiger90
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I kind of figured it out. It's either Torrie or Victoria ... and considering Torrie has a boyfriend at some point when she was married to Kidman, my guess is Torrie.
Kenny's move to Smackdown was the 2007 WWE Draft. Only Divas who went from Raw to Smackdown were Torrie and Victoria. Sharmell moved with Booker, but I can't see it being her because Booker probably would have beat the shit out of Cena if that was the case, and I doubt he'd be back in WWE right now, ya know?
But Edge is awesome.
Net_Wrecker
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It actually seems so random. We've heard tales of CM Punk and Jericho getting PUSHED after lashing out backstage. but guys like Ryder and Low Ki get jobbed/fired for wanting to do something and get over. It all starts to make sense as to why the product is so turrble right now. Back asswards company with SenileVince and nuHogan at the wheel.
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Don't be. Both of those bitches fart in peoples' faces and pee on others. You don't want that.
I foresee a chokeslam in Cena's future, then.
Woah, are you including AJ in there, or just referring to the Bellas?
Doubt that. She's only been on Raw for a month or so. Besides she looks like she's shy as fuck. Probably takes months to even get to first base with AJ.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I don't know who Doane is referring to as the "other Diva". The only Diva drafted to SD was Victoria and I don't think she's married to anyone outside of the Biz. The only other person I can think of is Torrie who is with A-Rod now and married to Kidman then. I think Kenny should come back as an English professor because this interview sure is clear.
Whatever, I'm not too interested in where Cener's weiners been in the past few years. Unless it's been in large black women.
Whatever, I'm not too interested in where Cener's weiners been in the past few years. Unless it's been in large black women.
funkystudent
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she is a woman involved in the "main event" storyline.
History has shown she has to be banging someone.
British Monsoon
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A bunch of new and confirmed New Japan matches;
NJPW "40th anniversary Tour KIZUNA ROAD", 7/8/2012 [Sun] 18:30 @ Korakuen Hall in Tokyo
(-) CMLL Certified NWA Historic Middleweight Championship Match: [Champion] Prince Devitt vs. [Challenger] Taichi
~ first defense.
Then NJPW will close out the KIZUNA ROAD tour with a big show in Yamagata with 4 title matches headlining the show.
NJPW "40th anniversary Tour KIZUNA ROAD", 7/22/2012 [Sun] 16:00 @ Yamagata City Sports Center
(-) IWGP Jr. Tag Championship Match: [Champions] Jushin Thunder Liger & Tiger Mask IV vs. [Challengers] Rocky Romero & Alex Koslov
~ first defense.
(-) IWGP Intercontinental Championship Match: [Champion] Hirooki Goto vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
~ 3rd Defense.
(-) IWGP Tag Championship Decision Match: Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima vs. Toru Yano & Takashi Iizuka
~ Following the no contest on 6/16, the reigning champions (Yano/Iizuka) were forced to vacate the belts. This will be a rematch.
~ Winner becomes the 60th Champions.
(-) IWGP Heavyweight Championship Match: [Champion] Winner of 7/1 Defense vs. [Challenger] Masato Tanaka
~ Tanahashi vs. Makabe on 7/1.
Then the final show of July will be held on the 29th which will see the IWGP Jr. belt on the line.
NJPW "40th anniversary Last Rebellion", 7/29/2012 [Sun] 12:00 @ Korakuen Hall in Tokyo
(-) IWGP Jr. Heavy Championship Match: [Champion] Low Ki vs. [Challenger] Kota Ibushi [DDT]
~ 2nd Defense.
Kota vs Low Ki is going to be a ton of fun, also, I hope Taichi beats Devitt - Taichi has improved a ton and deserves a title run. Most exciting match there has to be Goto vs Nakamura though, hope it proves to be as awesome as it sounds.
NJPW "40th anniversary Tour KIZUNA ROAD", 7/8/2012 [Sun] 18:30 @ Korakuen Hall in Tokyo
(-) CMLL Certified NWA Historic Middleweight Championship Match: [Champion] Prince Devitt vs. [Challenger] Taichi
~ first defense.
Then NJPW will close out the KIZUNA ROAD tour with a big show in Yamagata with 4 title matches headlining the show.
NJPW "40th anniversary Tour KIZUNA ROAD", 7/22/2012 [Sun] 16:00 @ Yamagata City Sports Center
(-) IWGP Jr. Tag Championship Match: [Champions] Jushin Thunder Liger & Tiger Mask IV vs. [Challengers] Rocky Romero & Alex Koslov
~ first defense.
(-) IWGP Intercontinental Championship Match: [Champion] Hirooki Goto vs. Shinsuke Nakamura
~ 3rd Defense.
(-) IWGP Tag Championship Decision Match: Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima vs. Toru Yano & Takashi Iizuka
~ Following the no contest on 6/16, the reigning champions (Yano/Iizuka) were forced to vacate the belts. This will be a rematch.
~ Winner becomes the 60th Champions.
(-) IWGP Heavyweight Championship Match: [Champion] Winner of 7/1 Defense vs. [Challenger] Masato Tanaka
~ Tanahashi vs. Makabe on 7/1.
Then the final show of July will be held on the 29th which will see the IWGP Jr. belt on the line.
NJPW "40th anniversary Last Rebellion", 7/29/2012 [Sun] 12:00 @ Korakuen Hall in Tokyo
(-) IWGP Jr. Heavy Championship Match: [Champion] Low Ki vs. [Challenger] Kota Ibushi [DDT]
~ 2nd Defense.
Kota vs Low Ki is going to be a ton of fun, also, I hope Taichi beats Devitt - Taichi has improved a ton and deserves a title run. Most exciting match there has to be Goto vs Nakamura though, hope it proves to be as awesome as it sounds.
Ah nice detective work Nihon.
Bipolar execs. But it's probably because Punk and Jericho "paid their dues."
im scared to even THINK That.
Edge is incredibly awesome, even in adultery.
It's amazing what Kane can do when he isn't wrestling Khali or Show every week.
Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels pulled great matches out of big stiffs, why can't Kane? Is he just not good enough?
British Monsoon
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From Aries twitter;
"@AustinAries ....and I've come to a decision. @HulkHogan @REALBobbyRoode, I choose Option C. Option C? @IMPACTWRESTLING, tomorrow 8pm/7c on @SpikeTV...
"@AustinAries ....and I've come to a decision. @HulkHogan @REALBobbyRoode, I choose Option C. Option C? @IMPACTWRESTLING, tomorrow 8pm/7c on @SpikeTV...
You can now order CZW Tournament of Death XI in several packages....the event airs taped delayed on iPPV this Sunday.
Yes.....you can own a piece of the ring canvas used at Tournament of Death XI. There is likely a 1 in 10 chance that piece will contain blood stains.
http://www.hybrident.net/PPSSign-ups/299E058signup.php
Yes.....you can own a piece of the ring canvas used at Tournament of Death XI. There is likely a 1 in 10 chance that piece will contain blood stains.
http://www.hybrident.net/PPSSign-ups/299E058signup.php
Kane is probably the most consistent "giant" in WWE ever. He probably can't keep with a 1-on-1 20 minutes match at high intensity anymore, but for shorter matches, or involving more people, he can deliver better than anyone his size and age.
Even Taker stopped wrestling full time years ago, while Kane probably wrestles 4 or 5 nights a week, in 20-fucking-12, what a man, give him the WWE belt for 1 month.
As good as Bret or Shawn? No, he isn't. However, he is a damn good wrestler, and the best big man they currently have (and has been for a while).
BTW, I don't think either HBK or Bret ever had to wrestle someone as bad as Khali, and if they did, they weren't good matches either. No, HBK/Khali wasn't a good match, either, so don't bring it up, lol.
Now, come on, you are talking about the best wrestler ever, and that other above average, Michaels.
Kane is great, but not in a godly level, which is mostly reserved for Canadians.
Last time Kane got the belt, we got the Kane and Edge Roadrunner Show....I don't want that again.
Absolutely. I've always said that he's their most dedicated worker. He does media appearances, autograph signings, wrestles SD!, RAW, dark matches, house shows, PPVs, whatever. He's in great shape for a 45 year old, has wrestled more matches for them than anyone else over the past decade, and he's stayed consistent doing it (and in some ways, gotten better, as well). He's an absolute professional who has never had a bad thing said about him. He puts over young guys, stays over with the fans, and he hasn't taken any major breaks (except once for a major injury in 2002, and a few months in 2011).
And it required a giant gimmick to cover for things, lol.
We also got some of the best promos ever given during the Taker/Kane feud.
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Yeah but Soul... who'd he ever beat?
Kane has beaten everyone there is to beat. Stone Cold, Rock, HBK, HHH, Taker, Orton, CM Punk, Mysterio, Angle, Jericho, Show, Edge, Foley, Sheamus etc.
The only guys I can't remember him ever beating are Cena and WWE's Batista (he did beat him as Leviathan in OVW).
Mr. Enigma
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Mystery married woman Ken Doane referred to was Candice Michelle.