Jurassic Park is a true masterpiece

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legend166 said:
Really good movie held back by atrocious editing.

I'd love Spielberg to go back and actually re-edit the thing whilst paying attention. It was rushed so he could go do Schindler's List.
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Actually, i thought he left the editing to Lucas when he started prep on Shindler?
 
SpeedingUptoStop said:
My biggest problem is Linda Hamilton/Sarah Connor. I think Linda can totally sell me on being this badass warrior woman, but whenever she's monologing about something like how the Terminator will be the father John never had and all, it just feels melodramatic and cheesy and even unnecessary. A lot of the things she says just kind of bludgeon the viewer over the head and really should go without saying. Just makes me cringe, I dunno why that kind of stuff felt necessary to Cameron.
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Because whilst Cameron is a great writer, he isn't a subtle writer.
 
The T-Rex roar has to be one of the best sound effects in movie history. It was loud, ferocious, booming and terrifying. I felt like I almost went deaf in the the theaters as a 11-year old.

The best (worst at the time) part was after the movie was over and riding back home with my family. The road back to our house was in the middle of a pretty dense forest. So of course it was pouring rain and due to it being a hugely popular movie it was moving like highway gridlock. I kept watching the water puddles on the side of the road ready to run like all hell at the first tremor as our car inched by the pitch black emptyness.
 
Scullibundo said:
Because whilst Cameron is a great writer, he isn't a subtle writer.
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for all my joshing, I do really like Cameron, but his writing really up to snuff in comparison to a lot of writer/director guys out there. He sure can blow your socks off with a tense action scene though.
 
Messypandas said:
Actually, i thought he left the editing to Lucas when he started prep on Shindler?
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The final 30mins were edited by Lucas
After seeing the CG, he started work on Episode I
 
Owed T'Alex said:
I love the lighting and tightly crafted dialog, but I usually start to get bored with all the dinosaur shit once it starts going down. The first half is all kinds of great
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This... THIS.

I thought I was the only person that felt this way. For me, the movie takes a quick dive once that Jeep gets pushed off the side of the cliff. I usually tend to stop watching after that.

The best scene in the entire movie for me was when they were all sitting around discussing the park over dinner. "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didnt stop and think if they should" is SUUUUUUCH a good moment in that movie.

The whole first half was full of moments like that. When they first see the Dinosaurs, the drive through the park, the sick Triceratops. There were so many. Then is goes all action and I lose interest.
 
Great movie, but it had an unintended bad side effect:

When George Lucas saw the dinosaurs, he realized that the technology had arrived for him to re-do the original Star Wars trilogy and to bring us those god-awful prequels.
 
bill0527 said:
Great movie, but it had an unintended bad side effect:

When George Lucas saw the dinosaurs, he realized that the technology had arrived for him to re-do the original Star Wars trilogy and to bring us those god-awful prequels.
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Lucas was...
...so preoccupied with whether or not he could, he didnt stop and think if he should.
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PrivateWHudson said:
Lucas was so preoccupied with whether or not he could, he didnt stop and think if he should.
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Terribly worn out viewpoint, but excellent execution. :lol


And I love this movie, alongside The Lost World. Both great movies, and great novels to boot.

Lets not talk about JP3 though... Good grief, what a stinker.
 
I wouldn't call it a masterpiece, but surely it's one of those movies I love to watch for pure entertainment. Which is what JP is, pure entertainment
 
The best thing I remember about this movie is watching it not long after I got a new speaker setup, with a huge subwoofer. Man, the T-Rex's footsteps not only shook the mirrors/water, but the whole room. :D Great experience and theme song especially.

I think I was too young when I saw it in theaters, don't really remember it. Love the movie though.
 
Some scenes like the T-Rex breaking out and the Raptors in the kitchen are still very powerfull even today.
However those two stupid kids get on my nerves more and more each time I see it again, especially the girl.
 
.GqueB. said:
This... THIS.

I thought I was the only person that felt this way. For me, the movie takes a quick dive once that Jeep gets pushed off the side of the cliff. I usually tend to stop watching after that.

The best scene in the entire movie for me was when they were all sitting around discussing the park over dinner. "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could they didnt stop and think if they should" is SUUUUUUCH a good moment in that movie.

The whole first half was full of moments like that. When they first see the Dinosaurs, the drive through the park, the sick Triceratops. There were so many. Then is goes all action and I lose interest.
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I hate to be one of those people, but with that being the case you should really check out the book. It has action in there still, but a lot more of the intellectual chats between the people throughout the book.
 
Solo said:
I was. 10 years old when it released, and I loved it. But Im not 10 anymore, and it doesnt hold that sense of wonder anymore, so I view it differently now, whether I want to or not. Cant be helped - same goes for all my childhood favorites - some hold up, some do not.
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You know the first attraction I ever built when I came down south from Scotland? Was a Flea Circus, Petticoat Lane. Really quite wonderful. We had a wee trapeze, a roundabout - - a merry-go - - what you call it? A carousel - - and a seesaw. They all moved, motorized of course, but people would swear they could see the fleas. "I see the fleas, mummy! Can't you see the fleas?" Clown fleas, high wire fleas, fleas on parade... But with this place, I - - I wanted to give them something real, something that wasn't an illusion, something they could see and touch. An aim devoid of merit.
 
I was 14 when I saw this in theaters. The theater was in utter amazement and completely on the edge of their seats the entire time. I have never seen a movie completely grasp the audience like Jurassic Park did. The CGI at the time easily rivals today's movies.
 
I was about 6 or 7 when I saw this in the theater. It blew my fucking mind and caused a dinosaur obsession that lasted for about 3 years afterward.

It's still one of my absolute favorite movies. There's just something pure and innocent about a blockbuster movie directed by Spielberg about goddamn dinosaurs.
 
Oli said:
I hate to be one of those people, but with that being the case you should really check out the book. It has action in there still, but a lot more of the intellectual chats between the people throughout the book.
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I don't think there's been many movies better than the books... maybe "To Kill a Mockingbird" or some of the James Bond movies ("Goldfinger" and "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" are better than the books because of some plot tweaks, IMHO).
 
thefro said:
I don't think there's been many movies better than the books... maybe "To Kill a Mockingbird" or some of the James Bond movies ("Goldfinger" and "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" are better than the books because of some plot tweaks, IMHO).
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The Exorcist, awful novel, solid screenplay.
 
stuburns said:
The Exorcist, awful novel, solid screenplay.
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The Road, terrible book, doesn't even have proper grammar, refilmed as The Day After Tomorrow with sweet chase scene featuring cold chasing some people through a library.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
The Road, terrible book, doesn't even have proper grammar, refilmed as The Day After Tomorrow with sweet chase scene featuring cold chasing some people through a library.
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:lol :lol :lol
 
thefro said:
I don't think there's been many movies better than the books... maybe "To Kill a Mockingbird" or some of the James Bond movies ("Goldfinger" and "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" are better than the books because of some plot tweaks, IMHO).
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None that I've read have had superior movies honestly.

I think the reason is that the books get the intended story where movies are changed to create mood for the audience. There's give and take with that, but the book usually wins out in my opinion. Plus you almost always get more story.

But uh, I don't want to start a debate or anything. Jurassic Park is a worthy counterpart to the novel imo.
 
I think it's funny how our vision of the velociraptor has changed since this movie was released.

First we had:

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And now we have:

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Anasui Kishibe said:
I wouldn't call it a masterpiece, but surely it's one of those movies I love to watch for pure entertainment. Which is what JP is, pure entertainment
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Why cant these 2 things go hand in hand? Isn't that the primary goal of movies?
 
Door2Dawn said:
Lost World was better.
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I know it's subjective, but I strongly disagree with this. I do like the first half of that a lot though. The movie is a technical masterpiece, but can't expect much less from Spielberg. I don't understand why no movie has really topped this in terms of visual effects at least IMO with the T Rex. I watched it recently and it's unbelievable, they actually brought it to life.

edit- as for those videos I actually noticed a handful of those, and some bizzare shots in the movie the last time I watched it, but these continuity errors happen in just about every movie and you wouldn't even notice it. I do agree though there is a fair share.
 
AdventureRacing said:
Why cant these 2 things go hand in hand? Isn't that the primary goal of movies?
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I think they can go hand in hand.

I don't think Jurassic Park reaches the level of masterpiece though. Too many little things hold it back.

However, in terms of something that's pure entertainment as well as being a masterpiece, Raiders of the Lost Ark wins.
 
AdventureRacing said:
Why cant these 2 things go hand in hand? Isn't that the primary goal of movies?
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they can (not saying they necessarly should , since some classics are absolute snoozefests) but not in this case imo. The annoying kids alone are enough to irritate the heck outta me, and a lot of other little things prevent it from reaching that status. Masterpieces are, again imo, flawless or nearly flawless movies like, say, The Insider
 
i have an original JP movie poster over my bed. and when i get a signing bonus or whatever, i am immediately buying the JP pinball machine
 
Spielburg needs to do JP4, have it set on ENTIRELY on the island, and not some bullshit like JP2, and have an Avatar sized budget. I'd die a happy man.
 
As a kid who loved Dinosaurs, this was pretty much the greatest movie ever made back when I was a kid
 
Agreed with the OP.

Disagree that you had to be a kid when JP debuted to feel it is a special film. I was in my early 20's then and certainly a kid at heart. I felt fear during the film, laughed at the big pile o' crap line, enjoyed it tremendously, despite its differences from the novel.

FX and actors are top-notch. John Williams' music bowled me over, I never thought he'd capture the JP-ness like he did. I tire of listening to Star Wars and Raides themes, but the JP soundtrack is always in my car in case I need something during my commute.

anyway, I feel that JP drags a bit after many rewatches - when Ellie and Hammond discuss stuff over melting ice cream, I reach for the remote to FF.

Lost World has many awesome scenes, but I like it the least of the three. It is dull to me, with the worst scene I've ever seen in a film (when Ian's daughter, who was cut from her gymnastics team, uses gymnastics on conventiently placed roofing bars to kill a raptor ... I'm still shuddering from that). Actually I think the extended cut that appears on TV adds quite a bit of necessary scenes for TLW.

JP3 is a different kind of film. If you take it for what it is - a true summer popcorn thriller, I think it is quite nicely paced, often funny, and fun to watch. The character of Alan Grant just makes the movie watchable despite the others.
 
One of my favorite movies. One of the only movies I still have on VHS from when it was first released. I'll be there day one for the hopefully soon Blu-Ray release.
 
I've still got the pirated VHS a friend of mine snatched from the premiere, seems weird but it's got a real special flavour. The echoing audio and strident lights add atmosphere, kinda
 
stuburns said:
Yeah, I think so. Munich, Close Encounters, Schindler's List etc are of course, far better movies, but as a kid who loved Dinosaur crap, it was incredible.
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Agreed. Jurassic Park holds a very special place in my heart. I loved it when I was a kid. I can't bear to watch the movie now as I'm afraid that it wouldn't live up to my expectations.

The special effects in this movie were groundbreaking for its time. I had never seen anything like it before in a film. Another part that resonated with me was the fact that the creatures were dinosaurs. Unlike dragons, King Kong, or other movie monsters, there was a time when these godly creatures actually roamed the earth. They were real, for God's sake! For those reasons, I think Jurassic Park is the perfect kid's film. A boy's dream.

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Also, please excuse this:

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I don't understand why Jurassic Park isn't in the IMDB Top 250

msdstc said:
I don't understand why no movie has really topped this in terms of visual effects at least IMO with the T Rex. I watched it recently and it's unbelievable, they actually brought it to life.
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I think the difference is most films don't have Dennis Muren, Phil Tippet, animators (who really understand how animals shift their weight when moving) and great shot compositors working on them.

Dennis Muren didn't work on Jurassic Park 3, and the CG dinosaurs don't look as good as a result IMO
 
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