Books and TV of some sort if his behavior is good.
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Jury has reached verdict in Dzhokhar Tsarnaev trial - sentenced to death
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Books and TV of some sort if his behavior is good.
InfiniteBento
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Exactly. Killing him is only brief satisfaction. Letting him rot in prison for the next 50+ years is far more deserving here. He deserves to think about this every waking moment and be tormented by those thoughts for the rest of his shit life.
mentallyinept
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Thanks for the info, I didn't know the appeals went on for so long as to outweigh the cost of keeping someone alive for 40+ years.
Do you actually believe that?They threw in that change because they could.
They used that charge because it's literally defined as detonating an explosive device to injure or kill people.
Resident_UA
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How is that relevant to what I'm saying? Are you trying to say that all laws are perfect or something? I'm saying that it's ridiculous to have the same definition from legal perspective for pressure cooker and a chemical weapon.
benjipwns
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TemplaerDude
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"You don't even" seem to be able to grasp a single thing I've said.
Zen_Arcade
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No, it's wrong that he would put two people on a level playing field as far as motivations go when considering why someone would want someone else dead. It's one thing to be against the death penalty, it's another thing to accuse people of being as bad as the person who bombed a public space of innocent people because they think that there are criminals whose crimes are so vile that they shouldn't get to keep their life. Not even the law treats everyone who killed someone else with that level of scrutiny, they're smart enough to realize that not every murder is done for the same reasons, and people shouldn't be judged as if they are.
He's attempting to frame everyone who supports Tsarnaev getting the death penalty as bloodthirsty manics that are no better then the criminal they're decrying, when in reality, the motivations of why these people want him dead are completely different then the motivations of why Tsarnaev wanted to bomb a marathon as a terrorist attack.
DontBeThatGuy
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Oh, there's far more reasons why i think that shit should be completely abolished, no half-measures but some people seem to focus on the money aspect quite a bit, often getting it very wrong.
Shake Appeal
Member
No civilized country has the death penalty.
stufte
Member
What didn't I grasp about you equating someone on an internet forum wanting the death penalty for a murder to someone actually murdering and maiming dozens of people? What am I missing?
List of countries that used capital punishment in 2014:
- China
- Iran
- Saudi Arabia
- Iraq
- Yemen
- Jordan
- Afghanistan
- Japan
- Vietnam
- Malaysia
- Palestine
- Singapore
- UAE
- North Korea
- Belarus
- Equatorial Guinea
- Sudan
- Egypt
- Somalia
And the USA. With few exceptions on that list, that's... interesting company to keep.
- China
- Iran
- Saudi Arabia
- Iraq
- Yemen
- Jordan
- Afghanistan
- Japan
- Vietnam
- Malaysia
- Palestine
- Singapore
- UAE
- North Korea
- Belarus
- Equatorial Guinea
- Sudan
- Egypt
- Somalia
And the USA. With few exceptions on that list, that's... interesting company to keep.
Daniel Jackson
Member
Unless he wants to die. Becoming a martyr, a symbol. He could 'volunteer' for death penalty by waiving all of his appeal rights.
benjipwns
Banned
But how else can we force others to dole out short-term vengeance for us?
0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55
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COEXIST bro
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
calling an apartment in San Francisco a cell is unfair
Can you read and understand words? Weapon of Mass destruction. A pressure cooker bomb and a nuke are both this. Your problem is with the dictionary I'm afraid. Have you called Webster?
Don't get me wrong, I agree that it should be abolished as well. But when people bring up money as a reason to keep it around, wrong or not, it makes me think that they're not focusing on the real issues that brought us to capital punishment in the first place.
Resident_UA
Member
OK. maybe I'm wrong. Was Timothy McVeigh changed similarly? I really can't find definitive answer. And I mean specific language ("WMD"). If he was maybe I was biased by all the Iraq reporting. But as of now I'm convinced that that change was added for no particular reason...
Druz
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He faced the exact same charge, among others. Weapon of mass destruction is explicitly defined to include bombs and grenades.
Resident_UA
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OK. I take it back. Sorry
I blame Iraq.
I still don't think a pressure cooker should be called a WMD, but that's different debate.
Said it earlier but no matter what his punishment is once it is rendered media coverage on Dzhokhar needs to stop. He had his fair trial and now he needs to be forgotten.
I'm not saying what happen should be forgotten, it was tragic and a lot of people's lives have changed forever because of this. I believe a life or death sentence won't help the families or victims. Now that he is officially guilty I think the only way for people to recover is time. Time to move past this tragedy and time to forget the convicted individual.
I'm not saying what happen should be forgotten, it was tragic and a lot of people's lives have changed forever because of this. I believe a life or death sentence won't help the families or victims. Now that he is officially guilty I think the only way for people to recover is time. Time to move past this tragedy and time to forget the convicted individual.
benjipwns
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Only $4000 a month!
Hope he gets life in prison. He should have to live with his guilt his whole life, that is actually the harshest punishment IMO. Death would be too easy of an out for him.
This kid had his whole life in front of him and he destroyed it in a moment, it's actually tragic.
Wish his piece of shit brother and the piece of shit Germanwings pilot were still alive so that they could be locked up and rot in prison their whole lives as well.
This kid had his whole life in front of him and he destroyed it in a moment, it's actually tragic.
Wish his piece of shit brother and the piece of shit Germanwings pilot were still alive so that they could be locked up and rot in prison their whole lives as well.
Pretty sure the tv is all black and white bible shows.
...because he pleaded not guilty?
boredofcanada
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Because we have a justice system? Should we go back to 5 minute trials now?
SocksAndShoes
Banned
OK. I take it back. Sorry
I blame Iraq.
I still don't think a pressure cooker should be called a WMD, but that's different debate.
What if it's housing a dirty nuke?
The size of the delivery device doesn't matter. If it causes mass destruction and harm, It's a weapon of mass destruction.
Appealing to all aspects seems like a pragmatic choice. You can get a lot of people to go along with something if you break it down in monetary terms. Morals and ethics are a lot fuzzier than "this costs us X."
Due process is extremely important.
LyleLanley
Banned
OK. I take it back. Sorry
I blame Iraq.
I still don't think a pressure cooker should be called a WMD, but that's different debate.
A pressure cooker isn't considered a WMD. A pressure cooker turned into a bomb is considered a WMD.
Daniel Jackson
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Might just be closed circuit television, showing only very limited programs
freenudemacusers
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HalfBakedProphet
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TemplaerDude
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At no point have I said that asking for the death penalty is "equal" to what he did, for fucks sake man try to read.
Oh give me a break, what a pretentious statement
LyleLanley
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A reporter on CNN was just saying that one of the jurors seemed like they were trying to make eye contact with Tsarnaev. I wonder if that means he probably isn't going to get the death penalty.
Resident_UA
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Sure, but there must be some lines drawn somewhere. Being capable of killing thousands of people vs being capable of killing dozens of people should have huge distinction (at least from legal perspective).
iirc, should be next week.
boredofcanada
Member
Damn I totally forgot that he ran over and killed his brother. They should have a photo of the body hanging in his cell forever.
LyleLanley
Banned
That second sentence was my own thinking.
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