fair enough, I found your reasonings for launch when looking for that quote for my other post. I disagree on Launch, based on my other game with them, they're quite a thorough player. Their 'sloppiness' this game is probably down to their IRL activities, which they have admitted before has made it hard for them to follow and contribute regularly.
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Just Mafia |OT| Sometimes You Don't Need A Reason to Lynch Your Friends
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fair enough, I found your reasonings for launch when looking for that quote for my other post. I disagree on Launch, based on my other game with them, they're quite a thorough player. Their 'sloppiness' this game is probably down to their IRL activities, which they have admitted before has made it hard for them to follow and contribute regularly.
Blargonaut
Banned
and I debunked the possibility in the same post I said it, deal with THAT
Blargonaut
Banned
nah Launch's "'sloppiness'" is entirely "deliberate". I know it, he knows it. He's tricking you, all of you
You're glossing over that it wasn't just real life getting in the way, it was pretty clearly an empty vote to look active. He claimed he had reasons, but as I explained, the reasons don't add up.
Blargonaut
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hah you think you slyly quoting Town's Win condition is gonna save your game? Think again
if you truly believe that then why are you voting for me?
Blargonaut
Banned
Quote the final D1 and D2 vote counts and I'll show you
I know I will egg on my face listening to blarg but fine, I'm at work and bored, let's dance
Blargonaut
Banned
Actually, I'd like to thank LaunchpadMcQ for bringing that up.
"All threats to Town are eliminated," makes it seem like either a) there aren't any Neutrals here and the Arsonist is indeed Mafia-aligned & thus likely x-shot (3? 4?), or b) the Neutral [Arsonist] exists but does NOT exit the game via kill-quota; rather, is just an unlimited killer who Wins with either Faction's Win if they're still alive by game-end, hence Town eliminating them being a Town Win necessity.
Thank you, LaunchpadMcQ.
"All threats to Town are eliminated," makes it seem like either a) there aren't any Neutrals here and the Arsonist is indeed Mafia-aligned & thus likely x-shot (3? 4?), or b) the Neutral [Arsonist] exists but does NOT exit the game via kill-quota; rather, is just an unlimited killer who Wins with either Faction's Win if they're still alive by game-end, hence Town eliminating them being a Town Win necessity.
Thank you, LaunchpadMcQ.
Blargonaut
Banned
alright
Consider D1, yeah
Then D2
Now my scum team is CornBurrito, acohrs, Dusk Soldier and either melonrabbit / Lone_Prodigy / rac as a 4th out of 5th
If there is a Neutral Arsonist, then I'm thinking scum team's more numerous to compensate. 5 members then.
Yet going by the wording of Town's Win condition opening up two possibilities of either Mafia-aligned x-shot Arsonist or Neutral Arsonist variant [NO KILL-QUOTA]; the scum team's likely 4.
But I think it's 5 because I feel like my own justification for 4 via the Town Win's wording is flimsy.
So yeah, 5 scum members including the late Cewyn; CornBurrito, acohrs, Dusk Soldier, and melonrabbit / Lone_Prodigy / rac.
Consider D1, yeah
Then D2
Now my scum team is CornBurrito, acohrs, Dusk Soldier and either melonrabbit / Lone_Prodigy / rac as a 4th out of 5th
If there is a Neutral Arsonist, then I'm thinking scum team's more numerous to compensate. 5 members then.
Yet going by the wording of Town's Win condition opening up two possibilities of either Mafia-aligned x-shot Arsonist or Neutral Arsonist variant [NO KILL-QUOTA]; the scum team's likely 4.
But I think it's 5 because I feel like my own justification for 4 via the Town Win's wording is flimsy.
So yeah, 5 scum members including the late Cewyn; CornBurrito, acohrs, Dusk Soldier, and melonrabbit / Lone_Prodigy / rac.
Blargonaut
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JE N'AI PAS BESOIN D'ESPOIR
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
It's really not...
No sir. You can lynch me if you want, but I will not go down without you having the facts straight, for the benefit of town (because I don't think that's what you are).
I threw out an empty vote because I did not have time to catch up to all the events of the day phase. I was way behind and IRL stuff did derail me, that's why I threw out an empty vote. The best I could do was offer up that I was siding with someone I thought was doing some good things in the game and, this is the important part, my GUT. Frankly, I could sit here and argue with you about the validity of a gut vote vs. whatever anyone else was doing, but it would be stupid because no one in this game knows anything with 100% certainty and you're just wasting town's time by burrowing in on a town player who was caught in a bad position.
That really wasn't my intent....
I was keeping that possibility under my hat, but oh well. It's kind of just speculation at this point.
...goddammit he played me again!
melonrabbit
Member
Give me a bit to catch up.
CrimsonFist
Member
Day Ends:
Majority is 9
weemadarthur
Member
While I have a bonus to aiming for the arsonist, I have already said I will support lynching scum. Achoo and Launchpad top my list at the moment, both of them respond to my summaries of their scummy behavior with 'I'm just playing badly, it doesn't mean anything'.
It had never occurred to me that an arsonist could possibly be mafia aligned. I am used to thinking of them as a type of neutral serial killer. But thinking about this new thought.....I doubt it in a 20-player game. Mafia having 2 killing roles when we haven't seen any evidence of town killing roles sounds unbalanced. Mind you I'm not an expert in game design.
Blargonaut's summary of why an arsonist would claim to be doused....I guess looks probably realistic? It's outside my experience. I've been just sitting here confused at why Karkador would claim doused. I could understand Isaac claiming doused if it turned out Isaac was some sort of charge-up arsonist, but Kark? I had nothing.
But I'm not lying. I really did get doused. My fascinating speech patterns mean only that I enjoy weird speechifying.
It had never occurred to me that an arsonist could possibly be mafia aligned. I am used to thinking of them as a type of neutral serial killer. But thinking about this new thought.....I doubt it in a 20-player game. Mafia having 2 killing roles when we haven't seen any evidence of town killing roles sounds unbalanced. Mind you I'm not an expert in game design.
Blargonaut's summary of why an arsonist would claim to be doused....I guess looks probably realistic? It's outside my experience. I've been just sitting here confused at why Karkador would claim doused. I could understand Isaac claiming doused if it turned out Isaac was some sort of charge-up arsonist, but Kark? I had nothing.
But I'm not lying. I really did get doused. My fascinating speech patterns mean only that I enjoy weird speechifying.
It's easy to say this in hindsight, but no, it was two vague allusions to being doused, for no reason. When I got her to commit, then I knew it was time to counterclaim. If I counterclaimed without that, there would have been an opening for her to back out.
What I did on D1 couldn't really anticipate that I'd be doused on N2. I'd also like to point out that I told no lies on D1, either.
melonrabbit
Member
Okay.
Since we're tabling the arsonist discussion for the moment. But I'm more inclined to believe that one of the two is lying and the other truthful. Presently, I find Kark less believable than Wee but that's more a bias brought on by two no lunch days. So, at least he's trying something new?
Also,
Blarg, this is your D2 scum list:
And today's:
Why check Fran?
Since we're tabling the arsonist discussion for the moment. But I'm more inclined to believe that one of the two is lying and the other truthful. Presently, I find Kark less believable than Wee but that's more a bias brought on by two no lunch days. So, at least he's trying something new?
Also,
Blarg, this is your D2 scum list:
And today's:
Why check Fran?
VOTE: acohrs
you're not wee!
Blargonaut
Banned
Through his tunnelling, I felt franconp was ultimately responsible for the loss of Zubz, so I personally had to be sure of what he was. And now I know.
Yes, it took this long for someone to ask this of me. +5 Townie points to melonrabbit
Blargonaut
Banned
weemadarthur
Member
Wee, you've forgotten to put your daily vote on me. Just thought I'd remind you
It's not that I'm not willing. It's just that I'm being slightly selfish at the moment. If I ended up being a swing vote between you and Kark I would bite my nails to the quick.
It's not that I'm not willing. It's just that I'm being slightly selfish at the moment. If I ended up being a swing vote between you and Kark I would bite my nails to the quick.
If you switch from me to acohrs, it's 3 to 3.
Blargonaut
Banned
Savez-vous quoi? You all know who you are, we're all so old now. How about we ask the interns what they think
kitsunelaine, NeckToChicken; what do you think?
kitsunelaine, NeckToChicken; what do you think?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
This is the second or third time you've misrepresented what I've said. I'm going to ask you nicely to cut that out.
What makes you confident you'd win?
Just am, why aren't you?
Could it be you know something we don't?
weemadarthur
Member
I don't think it's a misrepresentation? Of this quote series? I realize you weren't speaking directly to me, but uh....you are speaking to the game.
Blargonaut
Banned
NOT ANOTHER BLUNDERDOME at least
like?
You're right I do know something! I know that your gambits won't save you in a thunderdome when put under the microscope, especially for how anti-town they and you have been
Also,
Vote: Karkador
After hearing from you, I'm not convinced that you're not scum. I don't think you're the arsonist, although fatdog did have a good point there, I think you're scum that's claiming doused to avoid suspicion. If you're doused then why lynch you unless town goes after the arsonist, that is my guess for why you're doing this douse claim gambit.
Vote: Karkador
After hearing from you, I'm not convinced that you're not scum. I don't think you're the arsonist, although fatdog did have a good point there, I think you're scum that's claiming doused to avoid suspicion. If you're doused then why lynch you unless town goes after the arsonist, that is my guess for why you're doing this douse claim gambit.
I can see a few more options, but I don't think talking to you anymore will sway your mind, will let the others see who they believe
Blargonaut
Banned
ohh this is so tense
The crowd is on their feet
Now they're on their hands
Sitting on their hands and feet
torsos everywhere, heads nodding
The crowd is on their feet
Now they're on their hands
Sitting on their hands and feet
torsos everywhere, heads nodding
Blargonaut
Banned
Blargonaut
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