But you were playing against bots, and you lost against bots. You blamed 4 other people when it's completely possible to solo carry it. At first I wasn't even criticizing your play, but then you said, and I paraphrase "when they push as 5 and you're alone defending"
I was Thrall, not a heavy-hitter. It was the desert stage. I can't solo knock out 3 CPU from the laser temple and fight the temple monsters by myself, so the CPU was getting the level objective. If I scare off the other 2 CPU from the lane they are pushing, which is hard to do for long with Thrall, they go get siege and that is a bit much. Meanwhile the other 3 can tare open another lane.
So, by your logic, I am supposed to...
1) Be psychic and know ahead of time that my teammates were never going to come instead of trusting and trying to get their attention or wait at all.
2) Use the not-wasted time to lane push by myself faster than the whole CPU team can with the temple lasers and mercs.
And if I can't do both of those, then I am JUST AS BAD as my teammates who were not making progress on other lanes and not engaging the CPU, and then when there was a big enough fight for them to care about, charge in and get ganked. You're holding very different standards of judgement.
Then I said 1) how do you even let it get to that point. yes it's a team game based on experience gains through all lanes, but you can shove out bots in your lane and prevent them from getting exp and getting a huge level advantage. (PROTIP THEY RARELY HIT YOU BACK)
This is irrelevant because I already explained it even though you keep ignoring it.
2) defending 1v5 is completely pointless, and if you see your team isn't defending just go push a lane yourself, and it might draw the bots to you instead.
As I explained and you ignored, I wasn't hoping to fully stop them myself. If they weren't in my sight, they didn't exist on the map. If I was there behind a gate, I could reveal them on the map and ping them and attack safely. I did manage to kill a couple. That's not enough, but there was no way I was going to be able to solo push a lane faster than they were tearing through to the core, since they already used the laser temples to get rid of the other gates.
You're so adamant about your team being bad, but maybe you played it just as bad.
Again, you are using different standards of judgement. The standard I am saying they failed is "able to work as a team the least bit" and you are using "unable to save an entire game yourself" to say I am "just as bad" as they were. If they didn't suck, they would have made any progress at all on lane pushing while they ignored all these situations. How do I know? From like 50 coop games with obviously new players. I've seen plenty of games where we fought together, and plenty where if we weren't together we all still made progress.
And while you seem to care SO MUCH about me ever judging someone unfairly, you seem perfectly well contented with never dropping your antagonizing when
you didn't even see the match. Do us both a favor and just don't even try next time. Your ridiculous theories about what you didn't see and double standards for judgement will never convince me of what I saw with my own eyes.
He brought it here because after him not shutting up about it for 20 minutes and me telling him to drop it, I banned him in chat.