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[Net_Wrecker]

It's witty to me, Kanye's delivery on the line is corny. Give me examples of lines that you consider witty. For every line I'm impressed with there are 8 more that I find cheesy, corny, or cringeworthy, which is why I don't consider Kanye a lyricist. Not on Jay, Nas, Common, Lupe, Mos Def's level etc...

and I don't know why Kanye, lyrics, and all time are even in the same sentence.

I agree. As much as people might like Kanye's albums as a WHOLE, the guy isn't anywhere close to the top tier of lyricists. He says a TON of corny stuff, and his delivery tends to veer in the same direction a lot of the time.

 

[Korey]

I want to die every time I hear Jay's verse on Monster

 

[victreeb3l]

I don't know what the track separation has to do with the number of songs on the CD. The CD is limited by time, not track numbers :lol I'm going to assume you were semi joking =P

oh shit youre right :lol i feel effing silly right now

yeah i always assumed it was however many tracks the artist wanted to put in but now actually counting the time for albums with a longer tracklist, they all hover around 70 mins or so.

derp

 

[mckmas8808]

This is amazing. Quick question...

On the track So Appalled... Kanye says

"That was a little joke, Voila!
Praises due to the most high, Allah"

Is he muslim? I was like WTF!

I LOVE RZA verse... so much energy :lol

I dont know if this is as good as College Dropout, i still have that in rotation, but its certainly the strongest album since then. And the others were great to good.

Well done, Kanye remains as my favorite producer out there. The guy has too much talent.

Edit: Devil in a new dress is the weakest so far. And im not a fan of the big boss Ricky Ross.

Edit 2: Lost in the World is EPIC!!! - Wow

Devil in a New Dress is an AMAZING song. Especailly when the beat changes up at the end and Rick Ross comes on.

 

[Ken Masters]

The hook on gorgeous has been stuck in my all week

 

[spindashing]

I agree. As much as people might like Kanye's albums as a WHOLE, the guy isn't anywhere close to the top tier of lyricists. He says a TON of corny stuff, and his delivery tends to veer in the same direction a lot of the time.

Yeah, I'm a Kanye stan and even I can admit he's not on that lyrical level. He does make good lines, but he's not on that tier of lyricists yet.

 

[Error]

he more than makes up for it with his insane production skills, and it's not like he is a terrible lyricist.

 

[enzo_gt]

I agree. As much as people might like Kanye's albums as a WHOLE, the guy isn't anywhere close to the top tier of lyricists. He says a TON of corny stuff, and his delivery tends to veer in the same direction a lot of the time.

Corny? Tongue in cheek I'd call it. MC Hammer is corny, Vanilla Ice is corny, Mr. West is not corny. And I'd separate those lyricists you listed into multiple tiers, but like I said in my original post, not the top tier. More of a respectable lyricist than one thats not a lyricist at all.

 

[Flynn]

he more than makes up for it with his insane production skills, and it's not like he is a terrible lyricist.

Taste is not a bad replacement for talent.

I didn't read the whole thread, but did anybody confirm if those Madlib beats made it onto the record?

 

[enzo_gt]

Taste is not a bad replacement for talent.

I didn't read the whole thread, but did anybody confirm if those Madlib beats made it onto the record?

The madlib beats had songs made out of them but those were scrapped. I forget what happened to those songs but a recent article addressed what happened to the madlib songs.

 

[Oozer3993]

Taste is not a bad replacement for talent.

I didn't read the whole thread, but did anybody confirm if those Madlib beats made it onto the record?

None of them made the album. At one point Momma's Boyfriend had a Madlib beat, but it was scrapped:

And when he hits a creative wall, as he does this evening, he heads to another studio room to make progress on another song. In this case, it's upstairs to check in on Q-Tip, who is syncing a beat he'd made to an acappella Kanye laid for a song called "My Momma's Boyfriend." Kanye had spit it to a Madlib beat, but didn't feel like it was the right fit, so Tip is fitting a new track around the words.

That means there are 3 versions of Momma's Boyfriend: Madlib's, Q-Tip's, and Soulja Boy's.

 

[PBY]

None of them made the album. At one point Momma's Boyfriend had a Madlib beat, but it was scrapped:



That means there are 3 versions of Momma's Boyfriend: Madlib's, Q-Tip's, and Soulja Boy's.

If Ye releases the Soulja Boi produced version, instead of Q Tip or Madlib's....

 

[DominoKid]

then that means Soulja Boy's is fucking awesome and Tip/Lib should be ashamed that they got outdone by Soulja Boy.

 

[Dartastic]

then that means Soulja Boy's is fucking awesome and Tip/Lib should be ashamed that they got outdone by Soulja Boy.

Pretty much.

 

[Ashhong]

then that means Soulja Boy's is fucking awesome and Tip/Lib should be ashamed that they got outdone by Soulja Boy.

:lol :lol so true

 

[enzo_gt]

then that means Soulja Boy's is fucking awesome and Tip/Lib should be ashamed that they got outdone by Soulja Boy.

According to Ye ofcourse. And then Madlib/Q-Tip fans will hate Ye forever for choosing the Soulja Boy beat.

But really I don't care for Mama's Boyfriend anymore. I want Ye to get up and release That's My Bitch as a G.O.O.D. Friday track tonight.

Today (or tomorrow :lol ) will be the deciding factor on whether G.O.O.D. Fridays continue to the end of the year.

 

[spindashing]

But really I don't care for Mama's Boyfriend anymore. I want Ye to get up and release That's My Bitch as a G.O.O.D. Friday track tonight.

Today (or tomorrow :lol ) will be the deciding factor on whether G.O.O.D. Fridays continue to the end of the year.

You are not in the family circle anymore.

 

[Ashhong]

You are not in the family circle anymore.

Big words coming from the guy that took Ye off his avatar

 

[spindashing]

Big words coming from the guy that took Ye off his avatar

Who is this "Kayne" West you guys speak of?

 

[ToyMachine228]

Love the album. I've been a Kanye fan from the beginning with his first album being my favorite. Liked his second album quite a bit, liked the third but not quite as catchy as a whole, didn't really get into 808's, but I'm in love with the new stuff. Great all around.

 

[Dabanton]

I'm going to assume OB4CL1 is better. And no I haven't listened to the original purple tape.

Kanye's 10 min Speech + Parts of Live Performance of My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
100,000 first day, digital alone. Slated to do 600,000 first week.

"If I wasn't drunk, I WOULD HAVE BEEN ON STAGE LONGER!"

Damn, Ye snapped. Yes he covers everything he did in every interview so far, but he did it this time pissed.

Just watched this.

And i'd like to say a big fuck you to that spoilt horrible little cow Taylor Swift, she basically tried to throw him under the bus, then her little stunt this year with her bullshit song at the VMA's she played up the innocent little white girl role to perfection. She thought she had the final word refuse any contact with him and make him look like the big bad black man.

But Kanye basically said yes i'm an asshole and here's a song that illustrates that best i noticed the turaround right then at the VMA's before that even on here how many people were like "his an idiot" and hoping that his career was over because he got up on stage and said a result was wrong.

Now look, the music press are back on his nuts after they also tried to take him down MTV will no doubt crawl back to him as well.

Who will survive in America indeed.

 

[Oozer3993]

Just watched this.

And i'd like to say a big fuck you to that spoilt horrible little cow Taylor Swift, she basically tried to throw him under the bus, then her little stunt this year with her bullshit song at the VMA's she played up the innocent little white girl role to perfection. She thought she had the final word refuse any contact with him and make him look like the big bad black man.

But Kanye basically said yes i'm an asshole and here's a song that illustrates that best i noticed the turaround right then at the VMA's before that even on here how many people were like "his an idiot" and hoping that his career was over because he got up on stage and said a result was wrong.

Now look, the music press are back on his nuts after they also tried to take him down MTV will no doubt crawl back to him as well.

Who will survive in America indeed.

Whaaa? She had exactly 2 major appearances after the incident last year. Aside from a throw away quip in her SNL monologue she said nothing about Kanye. She tried to let it die. The only time she's ever talked about the incident in any kind of length is in that song where she wholly accepts his apology and explains that she knows what he was going through and harbors no ill will.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

...in that song where she wholly accepts his apology and explains that she knows what he was going through and harbors no ill will.

must not be the song "Innocent" that I heard her perform.

That was some condescending, patronizing shit that she could have kept to herself.

 

[PhoenixDark]

I wonder how many people - fans and especially industry people - have given Swift their support while calling Kanye a nigger in private to her. Gonna bet it's a high number.

 

[cw_sasuke]

I wonder how many people - fans and especially industry people - have given Swift their support while calling Kanye a nigger in private to her. Gonna bet it's a high number.

I don't get this post at all.

 

[Ezduo]

Hmm, this is actually a pretty good album. Anybody know any more like it? I have no experience in the hip hop genre.

 

[thetechkid]

I don't get this post at all.

Some people care about stupid things.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Hmm, this is actually a pretty good album. Anybody know any more like it? I have no experience in the hip hop genre.

that's a very broad question. I know you said you "have no experience"...but I have to assume you have at least some.

Let us know maybe 4 or 5 hip-hop albums that you've liked and we can probably recommend some stuff. There are too many flavors and styles out there to just throw albums at you.

 

[enzo_gt]

You are not in the family circle anymore.

:O I'd be angry at you, but I love your posts too much <3 :lol

 

[Ezduo]

that's a very broad question. I know you said you "have no experience"...but I have to assume you have at least some.

Nope, nothing beyond the tracks on the Gorillaz albums anyway. This is the first hip hop album I've ever listened to front to back.

 

[Equus Bellator Apex]

Kanye getting booed at the Macy's Thanxgiving Parade
smh

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Nope, nothing beyond the tracks on the Gorillaz albums anyway. This is the first hip hop album I've ever listened to front to back.

damn. well tell us this: what about this album worked for you? the beats? the lyrics? the tempo? the samples?

 

[Ezduo]

damn. well tell us this: what about this album worked for you? the beats? the lyrics? the tempo? the samples?

Damn, tough question. Definitely not the lyrics, it was just the way it flows, the sound of it all together. Probably the tempo, just the way I find myself bobbing my head back forth while slapping my knees while listening.

 

[enzo_gt]

Kanye getting booed at the Macy's Thanxgiving Parade
smh

smh smh smh.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Damn, tough question. Definitely not the lyrics, it was just the way it flows, the sound of it all together. Probably the tempo, just the way I find myself bobbing my head back forth while slapping my knees while listening.

Hmm.....

hmmmmmmmmmm....

I feel like a doctor trying to write a script.

I'd recommend checking out:

Graduation - Kanye West
Be - Common
Attention Deficit - Wale


let me know what you think of those. what you do and don't like about them.

 

[Ashhong]

Whaaa? She had exactly 2 major appearances after the incident last year. Aside from a throw away quip in her SNL monologue she said nothing about Kanye. She tried to let it die. The only time she's ever talked about the incident in any kind of length is in that song where she wholly accepts his apology and explains that she knows what he was going through and harbors no ill will.

I love Taylor, but come on man, Innocent is not a good example of forgiveness. That was some condescending bullshit. Especially the VMA performance, which was only made worse by Kanye's attitude/performance.

SMH at the parade. One guy telling Kanye to jump. I'm sure the death threats he said he got made him feel 100x worse a year ago. No wonder he was feeling down.

 

[enzo_gt]

I love Taylor, but come on man, Innocent is not a good example of forgiveness. That was some condescending bullshit. Especially the VMA performance, which was only made worse by Kanye's attitude/performance.

SMH at the parade. One guy telling Kanye to jump. I'm sure the death threats he said he got made him feel 100x worse a year ago. No wonder he was feeling down.

I'm not a Taylor fan at all, but condescending is exactly how I felt about the performance. Holy shit, I was so pissed off. She just HAD to bring this shit up a year later didn't she? I thought, hey Taylor is avoiding talking about it as much as possible, but to bring it back and spin in in favour of getting media attention a year later made me lose major, major respect in her.

Especially that 33 and not grown up or whatever line, was just messed.

 

[Tokubetsu]

America will always favor the blonde haired white girl from TN over a thirty something black man from Chicago.

Don't listen to Dream-Visions, stay the fuck away from Attention Defceit. You want to hear decent music from Wale you stick to his mixtapes. AD will offend you sonically.

 

[teacupcopter]

Kanye getting booed at the Macy's Thanxgiving Parade
smh

I fucking love me some Kanye but I don't hate Taylor (the whole tay/kanye thing is stupid/overblown/racial politics anyway)

but fuck

those people are just rude. I mean there is funny silly stuff and just obnoxious douchebaggery.

 

[The M.O.B]

America will always favor the blonde haired white girl from TN over a thirty something black man from Chicago.

Don't listen to Dream-Visions, stay the fuck away from Attention Defceit. You want to hear decent music from Wale you stick to his mixtapes. AD will offend you sonically.

100% Agreed

Mixtape Wale > Album Wale

Then again, that goes for a lot of other hip hop artists too. :shrug

 

[PBY]

Ez, listen to Kid Cudi's first album

 

[PhoenixDark]

Attention Deficit sucks, not worth checking out. It's a career ending bomb.

Check out..

Blu & Exile - Beneath the Heavens

 

[PBY]

Also, Lupe Fiasco's Food and Liquor

 

[Tokubetsu]

Attention Deficit sucks, not worth checking out. It's a career ending bomb.

Check out..

Blu & Exile - Beneath the Heavens

Everytime I put on Herfavo(u)rite color, I have to turn it down when the "Closer" interludes start because I don't want people to think I'm a pervert.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Don't listen to Dream-Visions, stay the fuck away from Attention Defceit. You want to hear decent music from Wale you stick to his mixtapes. AD will offend you sonically.

the fuck? what kind of simple shit...

look, I'm trying to get a feel for what he likes...not what you like.

it wasn't a list of recommended albums, it was a list to help sort out what he likes and doesn't. my next wave to have him check out would have been some southern stuff...then some west coast stuff...get a feel for what he thinks sounds good. and he may like some of the beats or some of the lyrics, which can help us point him to some other similar stuff that he may like. you're trying to give the man the hardcore introspective shit when he's already said that it's not really about the lyrics at this point.

Blu & Exile - Beneath the Heavens

not really feeling this recommendation. he's already said that it's not the lyrics that he's feeling. so why point him to an artist who's material is damn near all about the lyrics? I'm trying to point him to artists who have better beats than deep lyrics right now.

 

[Jak140]

Hmm, this is actually a pretty good album. Anybody know any more like it? I have no experience in the hip hop genre.

Cuninnlynguist - A piece of strange

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy2MbUdnfeE

 

[YoungHav]

Damn, tough question. Definitely not the lyrics, it was just the way it flows, the sound of it all together. Probably the tempo, just the way I find myself bobbing my head back forth while slapping my knees while listening.

you want something like The Roots How I Got Over, great sounding album with mostly live instruments.

I'm not a Taylor fan at all, but condescending is exactly how I felt about the performance. Holy shit, I was so pissed off. She just HAD to bring this shit up a year later didn't she? I thought, hey Taylor is avoiding talking about it as much as possible, but to bring it back and spin in in favour of getting media attention a year later made me lose major, major respect in her.

Especially that 33 and not grown up or whatever line, was just messed.

How is it messed up? That line is true and it serves that pretentious jackass right. Remember when a rapper got dissed and wouldn't say shit until their album dropped? Now we have shitty rap beefs with rappers posting weekly disses back and forth on mixtapes and youtube. Biggie didn't send any shots to 2pac until Life After Death dropped, that was nearly a year of Pac dissing him. Jay-Z dissed Nas at Summerjam, Nas responded December 4th with Ether. Taylor brung that shit back, she's a real nigga.

 

[YoungHav]

.

 

[Ken Masters]

Attention Deficit sucks, not worth checking out. It's a career ending bomb.

in your opinion, I thought it was a good album

 

[spindashing]

There's nothing wrong with Attention Deficit, it's just that Wale's mixtapes are so much better.