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Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

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RJT

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It has definitely grown on me. Still doesn't touch "So Appalled" (Jay-Z and Pusha T both killed it), but it's probably the second best song of the series.
 
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spindashing

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Ashhong said:
Hes done this a few times now. Usually releases a cleaner mix the next day or two. Don't worry, Kanye got your back :D
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Yeah. I'm waiting for a cleaner version. Not really digging this week's track, I'll give it a few more listens. Add me to the So Appalled stan list, though. :lol
 
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Took a trip down memory lane through the VMA 2010 thread.

Found a link to a version of Runaway with the sampling of BMF that Kanye does, people were asking about it earlier in the thread, so here it is!

Runaway with Samples

Is this illegal? I know Runaway is available for sale, dunno the protocol for things like this :lol
 
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Ashhong said:
I like listening to it...but Kanye did say he doesnt make songs in radio format and that he "lets that shit ride". Kinda sounds like long tracks to me.
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He let "songs ride" on Late Reg and it sounded fantastic. Not a fan of running a song too long just to include a wack verse, or 5.
 
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Nabs said:
He let "songs ride" on Late Reg and it sounded fantastic. Not a fan of running a song too long just to include a wack verse, or 5.
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So which one of these songs are you referring to with about 5 wack verses? At worst, Christian Dior Denim flow, but I like Ye's verse too much to stop listening to that.

Monster is not too long, its packed with hot verses, as is So Appalled. Neither is G.O.O.D. Friday. Power Remix is fire from beginning to end.

Oh, you mean Lord, Lord, Lord. Yeah 7 and a half minutes is a bit ridiculous, but thats the weakest track put out by far. It also has a Swizzy verse, which doesn't give it much merit either.
 
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enzo_gt said:
So which one of these songs are you referring to with about 5 wack verses? At worst, Christian Dior Denim flow, but I like Ye's verse too much to stop listening to that.

Monster is not too long, its packed with hot verses, as is So Appalled. Neither is G.O.O.D. Friday. Power Remix is fire from beginning to end.

Oh, you mean Lord, Lord, Lord. Yeah 7 and a half minutes is a bit ridiculous, but thats the weakest track put out by far. It also has a Swizzy verse, which doesn't give it much merit either.
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I just want more musicality with the release. I appreciate the production on all of Kanye's albums, but Late Registration had the awesome string arrangements and piano/keyboard flourishes probably because of Jon Brion's involvement. It wasn't excessive or irritating and Kanye still had the radio singles. I've liked every song leaked thus far but none seem to break the "radio mold" that Kanye says he's avoiding.
 
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see5harp said:
I just want more musicality with the release. I appreciate the production on all of Kanye's albums, but Late Registration had the awesome string arrangements and piano/keyboard flourishes probably because of Jon Brion's involvement. It wasn't excessive or irritating and Kanye still had the radio singles. I've liked every song leaked thus far but none seem to break the "radio mold" that Kanye says he's avoiding.
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I agree, but I also know that Kanye doesn't give a fuck about the radio this time around and has quite a bit of creative power. Though I'm pretty sure he's keeping radio singles too, he is a businessman. Don't expect to see music videos for So Appalled or anything, even if they're making one for Monster.

All of the Lights will be a radio single. Runaway is a radio single. Lost in the World will end up being a radio single. G.O.O.D. Fridays are pretty much getting hot verses together and promoting G.O.O.D. music group as a whole to get exposure, rather than making singles. Those are the tracks that leak, and he's holding back.

I just feel like songs like Good Life, Stronger and stuff were pre-baked to be hits on the radio, where Power just doesn't feel that way. It feels more, erm, expressive. If that makes sense.
 
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enzo_gt said:
I just feel like songs like Good Life, Stronger and stuff were pre-baked to be hits on the radio, where Power just doesn't feel that way. It feels more, erm, expressive. If that makes sense.
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Yea, I think productionwise this is a little more creative if you compare it to other singles currently on the radio. Really, I think you could say that about most of his albums though. I just hope he throws a few curveballs in there like the long story about his breakthrough on College Dropout to the awesome arrangements on Late Registration. I don't miss the silly skits on Late Registration though.
 
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see5harp said:
I just want more musicality with the release. I appreciate the production on all of Kanye's albums, but Late Registration had the awesome string arrangements and piano/keyboard flourishes probably because of Jon Brion's involvement. It wasn't excessive or irritating and Kanye still had the radio singles. I've liked every song leaked thus far but none seem to break the "radio mold" that Kanye says he's avoiding.
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Yup, I absolutely loved the strings and piano arrangements in LR. I think thats what really turned me onto him. Then 808s came out and was just pure musicality, amazing. I think its still there for him though, you can hear it in All of the Lights and some GOOD Friday songs IIRC.

I think AOTL is the closest to his Late Registration style just for the horns alone. Musicality with radio presence.

And I guess I'll be buying that deluxe edition. Gotta have this movie. I wish he would put out a tour DVD from his Glow in the Dark tour though, I would buy the shit out of that.
 
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Just listened to that Yeezy Effect mixtape. I've been waiting on a collection of the songs he's put out as I've missed most of them.

Holy shit. If this is indicative of what his album is going to be about, it's easily going to be album of the year. Already, just the music he's throwing away is better than stuff from some rappers best efforts.

Maybe this is just the excitement talking, but looking at other rappers, how many of them have the consistency of Kanye? He hasn't put out a completely shit album, his projects are still hyped through the roof and he's done it all in 6 years.

World class lyricist? Not really, but when talking about the best MCs ever, he's got to be mentioned. Got to.
 
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WanderingWind said:
Just listened to that Yeezy Effect mixtape. I've been waiting on a collection of the songs he's put out as I've missed most of them.

Holy shit. If this is indicative of what his album is going to be about, it's easily going to be album of the year. Already, just the music he's throwing away is better than stuff from some rappers best efforts.

Maybe this is just the excitement talking, but looking at other rappers, how many of them have the consistency of Kanye? He hasn't put out a completely shit album, his projects are still hyped through the roof and he's done it all in 6 years.

World class lyricist? Not really, but when talking about the best MCs ever, he's got to be mentioned. Got to.
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Pretty much how I feel and why I'm such a Kanye stan. He knows how to put out new and interesting beats that somehow never fail to please my ears. Definitely the best entertainer of my time, IMO, hands down.

So goddamn excited.
 
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Ashhong said:
Pretty much how I feel and why I'm such a Kanye stan. He knows how to put out new and interesting beats that somehow never fail to please my ears. Definitely the best entertainer of my time, IMO, hands down.

So goddamn excited.
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Agreed. At the end of the day the music he puts out is so well polished, he's top 5 for me no doubt. I've went back to Graduation recently and god damn the zone Ye was in when did that must have been crazy. It all comes together so well, even with songs so different like Stronger, and Everything I Am.

And as far as production goes, Ye is top 5 of all time for me too, I mean, he literally changed the game altogether, singlehandedly.
 
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Ashhong said:
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You are not Mr. Solo Dolo...
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But i am.
 
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Really love the new track. So Appalled and Monster are still my favorite, but this might come close if he releases a mix with a lower beat and I give it a bit more time to sink in.
 
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spindashing

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I'm SO GLAD THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER MIDTERMS ARE OVER.

READY. WILL BE ON GAF UNLESS I DIE.

Edit: Set my DVR. BET -- I've never set foot on that channel in months. :lol
 
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Ashhong said:
fuck. yea. and its supposed to have like 6-7 tracks from his album right? fuck. yea.
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I've seen 7 tracks mentioned:

Power
All of the Lights
Monster
Lost in the World
Runaway
Higher
Blame Game (ft. John Legend)

Last two are new. Word is they might be slightly different than the versions on the album.
 
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Oozer3993 said:
I've seen 7 tracks mentioned:

Power
All of the Lights
Monster
Lost in the World
Runaway
Higher
Blame Game (ft. John Legend)

Last two are new. Word is they might be slightly different than the versions on the album.
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Hopefully we hear a studio version of AOTL before then. Or sometime around then..
 
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Oozer3993 said:
I've seen 7 tracks mentioned:

Power
All of the Lights
Monster
Lost in the World
Runaway
Higher
Blame Game (ft. John Legend)

Last two are new. Word is they might be slightly different than the versions on the album.
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Chain Heavy
Mama's Boyfriend
 
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spindashing

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Oozer3993 said:
:lol :lol I'm guessing it has naked ladies.
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:lol :lol Yeah. I was surprised to see naked ladies on his G.O.O.D. Friday art when it started, but it looked artistic to me rather than it being plain old pornography. Either way, I guess we'll see the album art in a few.

Edit: Add me to the remove Fergie list, Kanye. DO IT. WE KNOW YOU READ GAF. :lol :lol
 
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I guess I'm the only one who hated the voice samples in the VMA performance of Runaway. They just came off as distracting and unnecessary. Also, 8 minutes seems too long for a song like that. But I'll wait for the final version before dismissing it completely... in Kanye I trust, kind of.

spindashing said:
Edit: Add me to the remove Fergie list, Kanye. DO IT. WE KNOW YOU READ GAF. :lol :lol
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Does it even need to be said? :lol Everyone in the world knows Fergie is fucking awful (except Kanye, apparently :/).
 
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nskinnear said:
I guess I'm the only one who hated the voice samples in the VMA performance of Runaway. They just came off as distracting and unnecessary. Also, 8 minutes seems too long for a song like that. But I'll wait for the final version before dismissing it completely... in Kanye I trust, kind of.
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I agree with everything here. I didn't hate the samples, but it just seemed excessively overproduced for a song that's simple otherwise. The released single version is perfect. And I'm guessing the 8 minute version has that extra autotune added too. Didn't like that part either, it was borderline incoherent. Do not want, even if Kanye still likes autotune, I don't want it used here.
 
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nskinnear said:
Does it even need to be said? :lol Everyone in the world knows Fergie is fucking awful (except Kanye, apparently :/).
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Except the 10 million people that bought the Black Eyed Peas last album :(
 
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enzo_gt said:
I agree with everything here. I didn't hate the samples, but it just seemed excessively overproduced for a song that's simple otherwise. The released single version is perfect. And I'm guessing the 8 minute version has that extra autotune added too. Didn't like that part either, it was borderline incoherent. Do not want, even if Kanye still likes autotune, I don't want it used here.
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ugh. I really hope not. The autotune on 808s made me hate that album. It would be cool if Kanye gave Pusha T an extra verse or something to fill the 8 minutes.

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Except the 10 million people that bought the Black Eyed Peas last album :(
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True :(

The guest spots on that track are really disappointing (first Drake, and now Fergie).
 
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Swag

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Didn't Kanye say he would have no autotune on this album?

( Lost in the World aside )

Or was that the BP3
 
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Ashhong

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Sebulon3k said:
Didn't Kanye say he would have no autotune on this album?

( Lost in the World aside )

Or was that the BP3
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I dont think he said he would have no autotune, just that hes back to doing regular rap type music.
 
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The M.O.B said:
Except the 10 million people that bought the Black Eyed Peas last album :(
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You've got to be shitting me. This can't be true. I give up on humanity altogether, seriously.
 
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Ashhong

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enzo_gt said:
You've got to be shitting me. This can't be true. I give up on humanity altogether, seriously.
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Wiki says

"As of September 2, 2010, with 64 weeks on the Billboard 200 charts, the album has sold 2,756,700 units"

Can the rest of the world purchase about 7million albums?
 
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WanderingWind

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Ashhong said:
Wiki says

"As of September 2, 2010, with 64 weeks on the Billboard 200 charts, the album has sold 2,756,700 units"

Can the rest of the world purchase about 7million albums?
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Much, much more than 7 million.
 
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