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What a bore of an album CS was.
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Kanye West presents Yeezus |OT| #YeezySeason Approaches
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What a bore of an album CS was.
XANDER CAGE
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I'm glad we're still disappointed in Cruel Summer. Cruel Summer was the worst.
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I really like New Slaves and Black Skinhead.
I wish the rest were instrumental or only had a couple of lines in them as I like the music a lot.
The rest:
I wish the rest were instrumental or only had a couple of lines in them as I like the music a lot.
The rest:
album version of tracks are different? weebayoh.gif
holy shit, not only are the screams definitely more clear (and sound a lot better imo) but it has the extended thumping part like the snl version, complete with a rising high pitch sound in the background, and screams at the start
check out 1:30!
i bet it's an older version provided to paramount awhile ago. and it's a shame too because it sounds a lot better to me.
Could be final album version.
Could be pre-Rubin version.
We'll know in less than 24 hours.
i'm going to say it's pre-rubin... but man i'd lose my shit if it's the album cut (which seems impossible considering the time needed to press & deliver CDs and such)
there's rumors of a different 14 track version but who knows. it seems to me that rubin's cut ain't as good, and it's a shame
Travis isn't on there?
fixed
The Realness: Yeezus Saved Hip-Hop.
Sounds like Kanye pulled a Cruel Summer on us; I Am A God iTunes version is slightly different.
Sounds like Kanye pulled a Cruel Summer on us; I Am A God iTunes version is slightly different.
White Lamborghini Countach, one of 'em.
To me, this album just sounds rushed. Like the first 4 tracks sound like Ye has this idea what he wants to do with the record. But somewhere in the middle it starts to lose footing and goes off in these weird directions. And not weird in a good way, because it sounds disjointed and unfinished. Even Rick Rubin recently stated that he felt the album needed 3 more months of work.
I think Ye picked up some bad habits while working on WTT and CS. He usually puts more time and effort into his releases.
Yeah, nothing will beat CS. What a stinker. I kind of felt WTT wasn't up to the standards of Ye's release as well. Mostly because, I feel the production was poor on some songs (not all tracks, but just the style they were going for was worse than what Ye had done before). And I also always felt that WTT felt rushed (I still have no idea what the fuck happened to Lift Off). Still, when you step back and look at the overall album, WTT at least has appeal. CS is just awful through and through.
I still think Yeezus is his worst solo album to date.
I think Ye picked up some bad habits while working on WTT and CS. He usually puts more time and effort into his releases.
Yeah, nothing will beat CS. What a stinker. I kind of felt WTT wasn't up to the standards of Ye's release as well. Mostly because, I feel the production was poor on some songs (not all tracks, but just the style they were going for was worse than what Ye had done before). And I also always felt that WTT felt rushed (I still have no idea what the fuck happened to Lift Off). Still, when you step back and look at the overall album, WTT at least has appeal. CS is just awful through and through.
I still think Yeezus is his worst solo album to date.
Ebro's a fuckboy but this - "Hip-Hop IS electronic music, you idiots." - is true and rap fans would do well to not forget it.
looking at them iTunes credits a few things stick out to me
- Cyhi on like every fucking track
- Daft Punk NOT on Hold My Liquor. I swore on my life that was some Daft Punk Tron sounding shit.
- Jill Scott & Kenny Lattimore on Guilt Trip
Where's he saying this?Well, when even Rick Rubin is saying it...
Maybe you are bonkers.
yeah but it's great for annoying the other drivers around me
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1709096/kanye-west-rick-rubin-yeezus.jhtml
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/06/14/the-inside-story-of-kanye-wests-yeezus/
I know I read somewhere Rick Rubin said he felt the album still needed 3 more months. But I'll take back my statement until I can actually FIND the source (maybe mind mind is playing tricks on me). Still looking for that, and I'll post when I find it. However, you can clearly tell this album was rushed just based on the above.
Album basically had months of work done in three weeks before the deadline. Five songs still needed the vocals/lyrics, and was done 2 days before the deadline. Lol
I just finished remixing Black Skinhead to include the "Wolf of Wall Street" parts. It now is much closer to the SNL version production wise. Screams at the start, drums through the start of the build up, and a riser during the build up too. I also adjusted the screams in the chorus to sound more "full", as I felt the album versions were lacking.
This was kind of just a personal project, not intended to replace the original. I've never done this sort of thing before, so it mightn't be that good. I think it came out ok though!
https://soundcloud.com/sabbz22/black-skinhead-wolf-street-mix
This was kind of just a personal project, not intended to replace the original. I've never done this sort of thing before, so it mightn't be that good. I think it came out ok though!
https://soundcloud.com/sabbz22/black-skinhead-wolf-street-mix
You don't need to. Honestly this sounds so similar to how 808s and dark fantasy were at completion.
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Man I really liked Cruel Summer. Mercy is still a dope track.
Those albums were worked on for a long time though, with Kanye constantly re-working them over and over again to perfection up to the deadline. Not even comparable situations tbh. Especially MBDTF, you couldn't be more wrong.
EDIT: You are right about 808s though. That was recorded in a 2 month period. MBDTF was pretty much finished before the deadline, he just kept re-working it over and over.
808s was literally made in less than 3 months.
Dark fantasy was worked on PAST the deadline. Although he had been working on that album from the beginning of 2010 into a week before its release.
I dunno man, have you seen her lately? She's looking fine imo.
edit: other important thing to note with that whole incident is that Taylor Swift is not some toddler who is scarred for life. She's hot, is rich as hell, can fuck whoever she wants and then put them on blast in country-pop songs that millions of teenagers listen to, and she's winning Grammys and shit. She's livin just like Kanye and is doing just fine. Part of why I feel that whole thing is overblown since I still hear the "poor poor Taylor Swift" sentiment sometimes.
Yeah you were right about 808s. But I don't get how your comparison to MBDTF works. Kanye had an overall vision for that record and the album was pretty much done a year before the deadline. He just kept re-working things (and yes I'm aware of him working past the deadline).
Yeezus was completely stripped apart and re-worked in 3 weeks. Rubin even saying that they had to do MONTHS of work in a 3 week period. 5 songs didn't even have lyrics or vocals yet, and he did those 2 days before the deadline. MBDTF had all the vocals (he might have re-worked parts, but they were already written). In fact, there was already a fully recorded demo of the album 6 months before its release.
So again, I don't see why you are comparing those two releases. MBDTF sounds like Ye working on something to the point of obsession (not wanting to let go of the final product until it was 100% perfect). Yeezus sounds like he had no idea what he was doing 3 weeks before the album was due (half of the album didn't have lyrics or vocals 2 days before it was due) - and then he had a producer come in and re-work the entire album 3 weeks before.
Even 808s (while it was recorded in a short period of time and pushed to the deadline) had an overall album demo done with full vocals and production a month before it came out.
EDITED for typos: (Meant 3 weeks not months. And a month, not months before.)
This album is SO, SO GOOD, start to finish.
I don't get how you kids are so affirmative about your hate for the album. give it a few more spins, i'm sure you'll love it in a few days when certain tracks are played repeatedly on the radio.
Send It Up, extra loud in the car >>>bamasweat:
I don't get how you kids are so affirmative about your hate for the album. give it a few more spins, i'm sure you'll love it in a few days when certain tracks are played repeatedly on the radio.
Send It Up, extra loud in the car >>>
bamasweat:WE DON'T WANT NO SKINNY BITCHES
^So true. Best song on the album. I REALLY wish it was longer thoughSend It Up, extra loud in the car >>>
Alright, I found it. I actually misread what he said:
So he didn't say the album needed months more work AFTER they finished. But that, he felt it needed months more work when Kanye asked him to tackle the project. Still. When you take this into consideration with everything else he's said (them doing months of work in 3 weeks, Kanye not having lyrics/vocals for 5 songs even up to 2 days before the deadline), this album sounds extremely rushed. But that's all I'll say about it. Don't mean to beat a dead horse on this. Just saying to me personally, I feel this album sounds rushed.
But for those that love it, I guess that's all irrelevant. Anyways, that's all I have to say about this album. Huge fan of Kanye, even met the man on numerous occasions. Have great respect for him. But I'm not a big fan of this record. But I am glad that so many people are loving it.
So he didn't say the album needed months more work AFTER they finished. But that, he felt it needed months more work when Kanye asked him to tackle the project. Still. When you take this into consideration with everything else he's said (them doing months of work in 3 weeks, Kanye not having lyrics/vocals for 5 songs even up to 2 days before the deadline), this album sounds extremely rushed. But that's all I'll say about it. Don't mean to beat a dead horse on this. Just saying to me personally, I feel this album sounds rushed.
But for those that love it, I guess that's all irrelevant. Anyways, that's all I have to say about this album. Huge fan of Kanye, even met the man on numerous occasions. Have great respect for him. But I'm not a big fan of this record. But I am glad that so many people are loving it.
^So true. Best song on the album. I REALLY wish it was longer though
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On Sight gets me fuckin hype, esp the switch to the choir.
Black Skin Head is amazing as expected.
I Am A God is next level. Croissants are the new Fish Fillet.
New Slaves >>>
Hold My Liquor is my favorite on the album. Lyrics hit me right in the feels and Keef killed the hook.
I'm In It & Blood On The Leaves are the deepest songs on the album imo. I feel they're more "headphone-y" tracks, if that makes sense to you?
Guilt Trip feels like filler but the rest of the album is just that good.
Send It Up bangs as previously mentioned.
Bound 2 is a next level way to finish off the album with the OG Ye soul sound.
This album is just so amazing. Sorry about the poor grammar, but I needed to express my Yeezus feels.
Really I don't think any of you would be saying it's rushed if you didn't know that Rubin had come in and heavily altered it in the last three weeks, stripping away a lot of the fat, I think having read that it's gonna influence people's opinions also that three months more work quote is non-existent I never saw that in the Rubin interview, that's just made up. Album sounds really great and polished to me, the only thing I wonder is why Bound 2 is on there it's so out of place with the rest but maybe it's intentional.
Bound 2 does sound out of place, but I think that's part of why it's a good closer. It grabs your attention. Also, I really like the song.
I'm finding it real hard to like Bound 2, don't like how they cut up the sample on there. It's too jarring for me and is just sorta meh.
No one has confirmed this. I'm betting there will be no bonus tracks on an version.
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