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Karin announced for SFV
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haha, nice catch
Megawarrior
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The only thing wrong with Karin is her hair and mainly the top of her head because the detail is washed out. I too can easily pause a gameplay video at the most unflattering, awkward angle and call just about each person in the cast ugly. They should probably change her win pose I guess. I was hoping for something closer to her alpha 3 win poses.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
Jesus fuck people are so close minded around here. Ken's hair looks like bananas? What if it is bananas.
Mindblown
Are you a guy? I'm betting you are, because guys have no appreciation for fashion. (I say in a sweeping statement!)
KidA Seven
Member
The white outline and the white flared out bell sleeve look bad though. However it's understandable why they did that because they were part of her school uniform. This coming from a guy that cares about men's fashion though.
I can hear that but I mean the game wouldn't be as fast as it would be if you kept all these long frames of animation. That's why Third Strike works so well, the pacing of the gameplay matched the long beautifully done animations of the characters attacks and movements. I agree that MvC2 is kind of all splashed together but I guess that's why I like it. It's kind of that moment where Capcom was just like "fuck it" and threw together all these assets and made something crazy huge for its time. I can see how it looks bad to some though.
finalgamer
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She looks like Uma Thurman. Uggh.
KidA Seven
Member
Uma Thurman in Gattaca though...
Sure it would, unless you think vs, xvs, msh are that much slower. The reason they cut animation is because of memory limitations of the (at least that's what I've heard... No idea if that's true), which is fine, but that doesn't mean it isn't ass animation.
xxbrothawizxx63
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Her special looks straight out of r/BollywoodRealism/. She looks like a pretty fun character to me. It helps that they cut the trailer pretty well and the new stage looks great.
Karsticles
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MvC2 was great, but I wouldn't put the animations up there.
Just look at how much MvC2 Sentinel's animations were butchered from CotA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVUh2rNewYY&t=04m10s
Of course, the butchered animations is part of why he is S tier.
Pure_Phazon
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MvC2 had terrible stages, especially coming off of MvC1.
I didn't mind the sprites all that much, but with a 50+ roster size it'd be a ton of work to redo old ones.
I didn't mind the sprites all that much, but with a 50+ roster size it'd be a ton of work to redo old ones.
There are no old sprites in mvc2, lol.
Or, more accurately, it's like, 95% old sprites. There's nothing to redo. They cut animation from existing games and put them in mvc2.
Have you tried Capcom's own Spawn: In the Demon's Hand? Really fun in both campaign co-op and [team] death-match. Camera control sucked, though.
Pure_Phazon
Member
Yeah I meant if you are going to have a game with that kinda of roster size and not recycle sprites, it'd be a ton of work. I guess redo was a bad way to put it.
Troubled Bat
Member
Not even close...
Karin is hardly the worst offender, though. Ken, Mika and Necalli look downright atrocious. I doubt Mika's hair could ever work in 3D, though, it's an inherently stupid design.
I dunno, looks like animes I watch. Sword of the Stranger, Cowboy Bebop, Full Metal Alchemist. Street Fighter 2: The Animated Movie.
It depends what you classify as anime. Comparing Alpha's art to something like SF4. I think SF deviated from that type of artsyle quite a while back.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Looks like Anime to me
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
People are calling Karin ugly, now?
For me it's the yellow eyes. They should be hazel. Yellow contacts are just creepy, especially at night in a dark room with a light source on them. Straight out of a monster movie, that.
But there's nothing wrong with her besides that. Aside from the hair she's actually got a somewhat normal look to her, kind of naturalized; I like that in a woman. And she's in very good shape; shapely toned legs in particular. Not super-sized like Mika or Chun, not pencil-leg skinny either (lol has SF ever had a female char with pencil legs?). I like 'em.
I mean, I'd still of rather had Necro, but Karin's looking solid imo.
For me it's the yellow eyes. They should be hazel. Yellow contacts are just creepy, especially at night in a dark room with a light source on them. Straight out of a monster movie, that.
But there's nothing wrong with her besides that. Aside from the hair she's actually got a somewhat normal look to her, kind of naturalized; I like that in a woman. And she's in very good shape; shapely toned legs in particular. Not super-sized like Mika or Chun, not pencil-leg skinny either (lol has SF ever had a female char with pencil legs?). I like 'em.
I mean, I'd still of rather had Necro, but Karin's looking solid imo.
Shadoken
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I think you mean it doesn't have that generic Anime art style associated with it that like 90% of modern anime have.
But there are many arty styles in Manga/Anime that differ from the most popular one , SF still has a Japanese manga artstyle . Just that its also unique at the same time.
This is some good shit right here.
insert e. ryu and oni ultra animations
among other things
nash cracks me up. he does his sobat and you see this deliciously realistic animation on his lower torso, and then he's got the hair and hands twice the size of his head anime-adjusting his glasses
If we're dealing w/ more concrete items, look at SFA3> SFV Mika and compare to SFA3>SFV Karin. The former looks really close to the original in terms of face, the latter not as much. It's not really an anime/not anime thing, I think Capcom wanted to hammer home that Karin's an adult now, as opposed to a 16 yo or whatever she was in SFA3. So they aged her face, whereas Mika was presumed to be a young adult, and she kept her appearance. There's def some inconsistency there. I both blame and credit Ono for having Mika look so flawless in SFV.
Once again I personally think Karin looks great (eyes aside), but I understand where people are coming from.
Nah, it's still anime. It might not look like some of the more popular anime that gets posted here, or that others like, but it's still anime.
Yes.
Doesn't mean I don't have an appreciation of good fashion (I can be too obsessed with it sometimes), which Karin lacks in each of her designs.
Full leggings are ok with me but they, in combination with the jacket, make me think they wanted to redesign her entirely. They should have at this point. The overdone sleeves make her look too overdressed. There's too much going on on her whole upper body, actually.
Even though I think her original design was bad too, I at least prefer it over this one, especially if she was wearing booty shorts instead of shorts under the skirt.
Her face isn't the problem. It's the outfit. I think she's the worst design in SF5.
Play-Doh hair of the pasta and banana types.
Not sure I get most of the complaints, Karin looks mostly fine to me and any issues I have with Cammy and Chun have nothing to do with their faces. I feel its also weird to assume anyone who did have issues with their faces are weeaboo otakus who need their anime injection or something though. Seems a needlessly antagonistic stance to take.
GG Xrd animates the way it does because that's what ASW wants, not because of some style limitations or anything (it felt like you were implying that but I could be wrong).
Just saw this post. Not sure I could roll my eyes harder LOL
GG Xrd animates the way it does because that's what ASW wants, not because of some style limitations or anything (it felt like you were implying that but I could be wrong).
Just saw this post. Not sure I could roll my eyes harder LOL
I dunno, the riding jacket makes perfect sense, and her outfit is appropriately busy/ornate to reflect her status (in terms of design shorthand). it's not the slickest fit, I wouldn't consider it fashionable, but I think it works just fine for her as a character. I'm hoping she gets some elegant alts tho
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
But just two weeks ago everyone said it was Mika xD
NipplesAndToes23
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You like MvC1 over 2 too?
Now that you mention it, I do think the jacket should be more fitted to her body. It would at least look better and wouldn't look so thick on her. And she should lose the ruffled blouse she's wearing under the jacket. And they should change those ridiculous sleeves. Overall, just too much going on there.
I think Mika looks good.
My only complaint is that they changed her shade of blue. It's too light/bright now. But she's one of my favorites.
I would be really surprised if they didn't have a bunch of different colors/shades for each character, for each costume, like they did in SF4.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Well that's a given isn't it?
Karin's motion card is up. The most interesting part is that her bio says that she's the head of the Kanzuki Zaibatsu. For those who don't know, a Zaibatsu is basically the Japanese term for a family-controlled industrial and financial business conglomerates in the Empire of Japan, whose influence and size allowed control over significant parts of the Japanese economy from the Meiji period until the end of World War II. Tekken also has this with the Mishima Zaibatsu, the control of which has changed hands over the course of the franchise (from Heihachi to Kazuya to Jin to whoever has it in Tekken 7). If I recall, control over a Zaibatsu doesn't change hands unless extreme circumstances cause it (which is hella common in the Tekken universe, given the dysfunctional Mishima/Kazama family). This means that, more likely than not, Karin's parents died since the events of Alpha 3. The possibility is further emphasized when Karin said that she was the head of the family as a whole in one of her win quotes. That being said, how Karin's parents died (if they did die) would still be a hanging thread that could impact Karin's role in the Street Fighter V story. Their deaths could have been from either sickness, old age, or murder at the hands of either Shadaloo or the Illuminati. If murder was what happened (which I'm starting to think is the case), then we may have Karin's tie to the potential Shadaloo vs. Illuminati plot of the story. This is why I hope that Siliconera is right. If the Illuminati did it (assuming that Karin's parents were killed, leading to Karin's untimely ascension to power), then Urien's gonna have hell to pay. Either way, if said parents were killed, I'm pretty sure either Bison, Vega, or Urien were the ones who did it. Gill doesn't seem like the type to get his hands dirty unless he has to.
I hope her newfound responsibility doesn't negatively affect her relationship with Sakura.
I sense a plot thread.
Judging by the win quotes, she doesn't seem to be grief-stricken. So if her parents did die, it must have been during the events of SFII or IV rather than right before SFV. That being said, as Troubled Bat pointed out in the SFV Roster Speculation Thread, M. Bison did have some beef with the Kanzukis. As such, M. Bison may be the one responsible for killing Karin's parents (again, if they were murdered).
Pure_Phazon
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Yeah.
Karin looks fine, but that angle at the end of her win pose is where she looks a bit off.
Valkerionseven
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It's chun-li's face that bothers me now. They went back to that rounded teenager look from SF4....