KO Traveling Hobo
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I get the feeling you would do that either way.
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Katawa Shoujo |OT| (VN, Free, Waifus, etc)
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I get the feeling you would do that either way.
based on what?
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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She has no idea...
That I've fucked all her friends
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
Your post. I was just joking though.
You should just give it a shot. If you hate it, you hate it.
Your post. I was just joking though.
You should just give it a shot. If you hate it, you hate it.
dont usually play those type of games, but its free
so maybe
Pureauthor
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If nothing else, Katawa Shoujo has the perfect storm of elements to make a whole lot of people who would have never touched VNs go 'Wait, what?' and pay more attention to it.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
Member
Wow at Lilly and Shizune
Also, does anyone know each character's respective theme?
I'm thinking it's:
Emi - Standing Tall
Rin - Parity
Hanako- Concord
Lilly - Ease
Shizune - ?
Kenji - Out of the Loop
Yuuko - Fripperies
being first cousins. WTF
Also, does anyone know each character's respective theme?
I'm thinking it's:
Emi - Standing Tall
Rin - Parity
Hanako- Concord
Lilly - Ease
Shizune - ?
Kenji - Out of the Loop
Yuuko - Fripperies
I'm pretty sure Shizune's is 'The Student Council'.
Attackthebase
Member
Pretty much this. I can't imagine Hanako with the Concord music instead of Lilly. Painful memories suits her far better.
Pureauthor
Member
Misha's theme is 'Generic Happy Music'.
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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Thanks guys, Lilly and Hanako were the two I had difficulty sorting out since the two share such a large number of scenes
Attackthebase
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ArtistDude88
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I looked it up, and I got the good ending. I don't know, I guess I didn't really connect with Rin's story too much. Kinda funny...
I went through Hanako's and thought it was... Ok.
Then, as my last path choice of the VN, I went with Shizune. Oh man, I haven't laughed that much while reading since I read Good Omens. It also felt like a solid, "THE END" for KS, so I'm quite pleased to have read through it last.
I can't help but wish this VN was released before I started high school. It would of probably helped me out.
PS:
OPTIC BLAST!
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Fuck y'all I have the best Hanako avatar.
*brofist*
Also somewhat related considering they're both written by multiple authors
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Lies.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Never mind, I'm in this thread really late.
I have a fun little thing for you to notice, then. Count the number of choices you get to make after act 1 and to the end. I finished Shizune's arc yesterday, and I knew there was something bugging me about it, until I counted.
Shizune spoilers:
Honestly, this arc seemed a bit... unfocused, which is somewhat amusing considering the character. Yes, Misha and Shizune is a good pair. The deaf one and the loud one. But it's also that pair that makes this seem unfocused. Since Misha doesn't have her own arc and is pretty much always with Shizune, she steals a lot of the spotlight, especially before Hisao learns sign language, which I'll admit was a nice touch. But, perhaps, the thing that bugged me the most, is that there was only ONE single choice in the entirety of acts 2, 3, and 4. Which basically boils down to "Do you cheat on Shizune or not?" Gee, wonder which one leads to the good end. This arc does have the better Kenji so far, though.
Shizune, Emi and Lilly spoilers:
Also, heart condition? What heart condition? Lilly's arc had it looming like a shadow and ended with a second heart attack that Hisao barely survives, Emi's had it front and center with repeated nurse visits, and Hisao notcing that his heart can take more now that he's in better shape. Shizune? A thump and a red screen occasionally, but it never really enters the plot. And for a game about "a guy with a heart condition who is sent to a special school for people with disabilities", then hand waving (pun not intended) of his own condition is a pretty major omission.
Well, three arcs down, two to go. Hanako or Rin next? Well, I got a save at the Lilly/Hanako split point, so that might be easy to get.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I wasn't expecting to read Lilly spoilers in your Shizune spoilers.
Otherwise I agree. Shizune's route sucks because it's very unfocused, but more than that I think Hisao himself is very underplayed. At the end of it it doesn't feel like he has accomplished anything beyond a vague
lesson, whereas every other route plays out Hisao's emotional development along that of the girl's.
Otherwise I agree. Shizune's route sucks because it's very unfocused, but more than that I think Hisao himself is very underplayed. At the end of it it doesn't feel like he has accomplished anything beyond a vague
"I should think about my future"
Dynamite Ringo Matsuri
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I'm gonna try this one out for awhile, it's really nice
Oops, sorry about that. I edited the warning a bit more.I wasn't expecting to read Lilly spoilers in your Shizune spoilers.
Otherwise I agree. Shizune's route sucks because it's very unfocused, but more than that I think Hisao himself is very underplayed. At the end of it it doesn't feel like he has accomplished anything beyond a vaguelesson, whereas every other route plays out Hisao's emotional development along that of the girl's."I should think about my future"
Shizune and Emi spoiler:
Yeah, Hisao didn't really do much in this arc. I mean, in Emi's arc, he learns to apply his science skill to real life (if you pick right), which leads to that awesome moment where Emi gets mad and runs off, where you can either have a fight with her or... analyze the situation and realize that you could just ask her mom instead. In Shizune's arc he learns that... Misha is a lesbian with a crush on Shizune? Okay, I expected a tirangle, but not that angle... But you're right. It wasn't just Hisao's heart condition I was missing in the story. It was Hisao himself. It's the Shizune and Misha show, with Hisao just kind of being there. Misha pretty much took Hisao's spot in the story. And since she has no arc of her own, that's pretty much all that Misha gets to do.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I don't even think it's a Misha and Shizune show either.
Shizune's arc sucks mainly because most of the character development happens without any sense of coherence. It's going through the motions and stating stuff without showing the implications of said stuff. Even the Bad End is guilty of that.
tl;dr awful writing is awful
They get into a fight and make up later, but they don't seem to act different towards each other after the event. There's a brief moment of realisation where Shizune concludes that she's always taken Misha for granted, but nothing about her behaviour towards her seems to indicate any meaningful change in her approach.
Shizune just decides to break up with Hisao because... I don't know she was feeling emo. Hisao cheating on her is a non-issue, and even Misha only mentions it trivially after it has occured.
tl;dr awful writing is awful
I think, perhaps, that one of the major sins, so to speak, of this arc is how it
sets up some fairly interesting situations, and then... blowing it. Hisao learns sign language so he can talk with Shizune? That's so sweet, there's going to be a cute revelation scene, right? Nope. Visiting Shizune's family? Oh, we get to see where she got her competitive streak from, perhaps? Well, yes, but it adds nothing to the story. To be honest, I'm not sure what story the game is trying to tell here. There are plenty of good ones to tell with those characters, especially Hisao learning to sign. He picked that up way too fast, could have made that all of Act 2, really.
I think I agree with the tl;dr. Compared to what I've seen in the rest of the game, at least.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I just finished Rin's route last night and I agree. I just didn't connect with it much. :-/. I rather liked Shizune's route. ^^;
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I dunno, I am the exact opposite. Loved Shizune's route, didn't connect with Rin's.
A Huge Battleship
Member
Yeah, you'll have to wait another 5 years for a mental illness VN.
Armageddon, global financial meltdown, France win the world cup, etc.What would happen to you if you switched it?
Nothing really, I just indirectly promised someone a while back that I wouldn't.
Misha:
Don't mind if I do! Thanks!
Attackthebase
Member
Is it bad that if Four Leafs Studio made this game, I would actually be interested in trying it out?
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I lost it when I got to "Warden and Gate Guards."
So, anyone else made a note to remember Katawa Shoujo for the next GAF GOTY thread? It's way early, I know, but I figured it'd be a shame to forget this game just because it's a January release and free no less.
Hm, maybe taking notes on what games I play this year isn't a bad plan at all. Would make it easier to remember what I liked about the good ones, and disliked about the bad ones.
Also, Hanako's arc is pretty much as I expected it to be.
Guess that means the writing was well done.
Only one left now is Rin. How to get to her path, I wonder...
Hm, maybe taking notes on what games I play this year isn't a bad plan at all. Would make it easier to remember what I liked about the good ones, and disliked about the bad ones.
Also, Hanako's arc is pretty much as I expected it to be.
The classic overly shy grl story, except perhapss with a hint of PTSD, which I sort of expected, too. An interesting thing, perhaps, is that just like Hisao, I did get to think of her less as the girl with the scar, and more as just Hanako.
Only one left now is Rin. How to get to her path, I wonder...
Public reaction to this has been actually relatively good! A lot of people willing to give it a chance even before reading through it properly. I think AA, Ghost Trick and probably 999 in particular are responsible.
Oh, I remember the fourth dude I wanted to talk to - Chris Avellone. I wonder if that would be hella difficult. I should actually play more of Christine Love's stuff though before I ask, and I have to wait until my local PR contact for Capcom is resolved...
Oh, I remember the fourth dude I wanted to talk to - Chris Avellone. I wonder if that would be hella difficult. I should actually play more of Christine Love's stuff though before I ask, and I have to wait until my local PR contact for Capcom is resolved...
ArtistDude88
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Hell yeah! Hilarious book! And I'm not much one for religion either, haha!
At least I really love Rin's theme :lol. I enjoyed Shizune's path too, albeit long! Jigoro made me laugh SO HARD.
spyhunterzero
Member
YES, we continue to grow like legion. Soon all will know who is the best girl in this game.
Now that I'm looking at every ones avy, I feel like making a list of what team every one is in, probably making the names of the teams a videogame reference.
Now that I'm looking at every ones avy, I feel like making a list of what team every one is in, probably making the names of the teams a videogame reference.
KO Traveling Hobo
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You left out the most important(imo) part of Hanako's character:
she's not just your typical super shy moeblob. She's got balls and wouldn't swallow that white knight crap that Hisao(and perhaps the player) intended to shovel down her throat.
I don't know about video game references, but you guys can be Team Chocolate.spyhunterzero said:
Aren't you thinking of
Emi there? She's the one not wanting the white knight thing. Hanako, as far as I could tell, wasn't a shy moeblob, though. She just acted like one because she thought that was how she'd keep Lilly's and Hisao's attention, so they didn't turn on her like her old friends had. The path of less resistance, as it was.
Emi definitely had a little bit of that in her route, but Hanako had a lot too, if I remember correctly. I think Emi's sprung more out of her inability to let people get close to her, rather than a disdain for those who saw her as someone who needed saving.
cybercircuit1
Member
Haven't played yet, but planning to in the near future. I remember hearing rumors that Hanako's route contained
. Is that still the case? A yes/no would be great, don't want to spoil things otherwise.
scat
Brofist.
You and I seem to have mirror opinions on the routes in this game.
While I'm not much of an anime guy (Not a big fan of 90% of the popular stuff for the most part.) I hang out with a few people in the "otaku" crowd at college. One of the dudes was surprised to learn I had played this (Again, not really that kind of guy). He was talking about how much he loved Hanako's route.
Then I showed him the bacon video.
cybercircuit1
Member
Great, thanks! Looking forward to her route a bit more than I was in that case.
Brofist.
You and I seem to have mirror opinions on the routes in this game.
While I'm not much of an anime guy (Not a big fan of 90% of the popular stuff for the most part.) I hang out with a few people in the "otaku" crowd at college. One of the dudes was surprised to learn I had played this (Again, not really that kind of guy). He was talking about how much he loved Hanako's route.
Then I showed him the bacon video.
All the people I know IRL who have played it are game journos or industry-related. So that's kind of cool! Then again Uni hasn't started yet, so no animeclub dudes to hang around.
I am taking JPS101 this year though so we'll see
KO Traveling Hobo
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It's more clear in the bad end, but it comes through in her good end too. She had sex with Hisao because she wanted him to realize that she wasn't just a scared little girl who needed protecting.
The reason Akira and Hanako get along so well is that Akira doesn't baby her.
The reason Akira and Hanako get along so well is that Akira doesn't baby her.
This, of course, is just my interpretation.