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[Fabieter]

The very reason DEI is completely bullshit. If it's suits to your game go all the way you want but if we can smell the bullshit from a mile away donr cry if your game bombs.

 

[Buggy Loop]

You didn't even read what I said! You are drawing the wrong conclusions, but blaming people for drawing the wrong conclusions!

I never said that all the men left the studio, I never said that this photo shows that only women are left. On the contrary! In my post I said that I think Warhorse has more men even today.

That is not the point of my post. You missed the point.

I was trying to show with this photo that Warhorse is committed to DEI! Not that all the men left the studio! NOT that there are more women there now. On the contrary, I directly said that I think men are still the majority there!

But hiring based on gender is bad! It hurts quality. And Warhorse has clearly started hiring more women!

If you think this photo is a bad example, there are more photos showing that women make up a much larger portion of Warhorse now. And I'm not saying hiring women is bad, I'm saying forcing people to hire women is bad and hurts games! Forced diversity is bad and harmed KCD2! If woman was the best choice for Warhorse to hire, that would be fine if they decided to do so. But they're doing it because of DEI policies.

Are you insane?

Do you even know the talent of these women in the photo? No? Then STFU. Who are you to even claim they got hired based on sex. If it became majority of Women in the dev team I could start giving you some leeway but as EviLore already mentioned, its what, ~10% ?

 

[Pandawan]

Are you insane?

Do you even know the talent of these women in the photo? No? Then STFU. Who are you to even claim they got hired based on sex.

Swearing is not the best argument. A person calls his opponent insane and tries to shut him up when he has no adequate arguments. You yourself rather look insane in this situation.

You don't think Warhorse is hiring based on DEI, i got it. You may think soo. I don't think like that, i think Warhorse are indeed commited to DEI politics and am trying to prove it. Calm down.

 

[fierytrainwreck]

Leftists are incapable of being appeased. That’s why it’s called Critical Theory.

It can feel forced and useless, but at the end of the day the game had a better Metacritic score because of this gay stuff, so it made sense for the studio. If is optional, I don't see the problem.

This is fucking depressing. People are really out here shrugging their shoulders at political and cultural commissars unilaterally deciding what values feature in our media?

 

[Buggy Loop]

Mad? Swearing is not the best argument. A person calls his opponent insane and tries to shut him up when he has no adequate arguments. You yourself rather look like insane person in this situation.

You don't think Warhorse is hiring based on DEI, i got it. You may think soo. I don't think like that and am trying to prove it. Calm down.

You're assuming on things you have zero clues about. "But hiring based on gender is bad!" with no clue the background of these women or what they bring to the studio. They hired women, so DEI. That's one of the most brainlet thing I've seen in a while and if you think I have no respect for you with those words, you would be 100% right. If you want to showcase everyone here that you're just mysogynistic and don't like being called out for it just say so.

Apparently that studio managed to output what is a good GOTY contender for 2025. Typically studios who hire not on merit but on DEI do not manage to deliver on games, do they now?

 

[adamsapple]

I got if rom google search, one of first photos i got. The point is not the photo, this photo is only intended to be a visual demonstration of what I said. People who understand what I mean can find more photos, where it will also be clear that Warhorse have become committed to DEI politics

A 9% female staff ratio over 91% male staff ratio is not "DEI", nor do you have the SLIGHTEST of idea if those women were hired on merit or not.

You've made your point, it's just not a very good or well thought out one.

 

[Pandawan]

You're assuming on things you have zero clues about. "But hiring based on gender is bad!" with no clue the background of these women or what they bring to the studio. They hired women, so DEI. That's one of the most brainlet thing I've seen in a while and if you think I have no respect for you with those words, you would be 100% right. If you want to showcase everyone here that you're just mysogynistic and don't like being called out for it just say so.

Apparently that studio managed to output what is a good GOTY contender for 2025. Typically studios who hire not on merit but on DEI do not manage to deliver on games, do they now?

If something looks like a chicken, clucks, and flaps its wings, then it's a chicken.

Did you just wake up from cryosleep yesterday?

Do you realize what times we live in?

There are already thousands of examples of how DEI politics penetrates absolutely all companies. It has reached Warhorse as well.

Again you didn't even read what i saif and ve already provided good examples if how KCD2 is much worse than the first game. Read it.

 

[Buggy Loop]

If something looks like a chicken, clucks, and flaps its wings, then it's a chicken.

Did you just wake up from cryosleep yesterday?

Do you realize what times we live in?

There are already thousands of examples of how DEI politics penetrates absolutely all companies. It has reached Warhorse as well.

Again you didn't even read what i saif and ve already provided good examples if how KCD2 is much worse than the first game. Read it.

Keep digging

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

I too, fear boobies in the workplace

 

[adamsapple]

I too, fear boobies in the workplace

 

[Pandawan]

A 9% female staff ratio over 91% male staff ratio is not "DEI", nor do you have the SLIGHTEST of idea if those women were hired on merit or not.

You've made your point, it's just not a very good or well thought out one.

Now find the percentage of men an women at Warhorse 8 years ago and compare.

And understand by now that it's not about the percentage of men and women. But whether this studio is subject to DEI politics or not. If it is, it affects creative decisions, among other things. Hence Musa, Ptacheks love for men.

I never cared how many women work there. I sadi that if they hire based on DEI politics they also make creative decisions made on DEI politics.

Keep digging

 

[Wilhelm_85]

Annoying if true, but the game still turned out to be amazing, so I'll give him a pass this time.

 

[adamsapple]

Now find the percentage of men an women at Warhorse 8 years ago and compare.

And understand by now that it's not about the percentage of men and women. But whether this studio is subject to DEI politics or not. If it is, it affects creative decisions, among other things. Hence Musa, Ptacheks love for men.

I never cared how many women work there. I sadi that if the hire based on DEI politics they also make creative decisions made on DEI politics.

Again, you say that with zero knowledge of their hiring practices. Hell, I don't know their hiring practices either. At this point, it just seems like you're making a fuss over nothing because you found a picture of a few women in their roster. Which is utterly mental.

The studio head has been staunchly against DEI style content on his social media, why do you think they would go against that?

 

[EviLore]

Meltdowns continue at the sight of a 250 person company employing any women. Fascinating.

 

[adamsapple]

Meltdowns continue at the sight of a 250 person company employing any women. Fascinating.

It's unbelievable, innit? Women existing in the workforce *gasp* must be DEI.

 

[BigBeauford]

If something looks like a chicken, clucks, and flaps its wings, then it's a chicken.

Did you just wake up from cryosleep yesterday?

Do you realize what times we live in?

There are already thousands of examples of how DEI politics penetrates absolutely all companies. It has reached Warhorse as well.

Again you didn't even read what i saif and ve already provided good examples if how KCD2 is much worse than the first game. Read it.

Those women must be badass then because there is nothing I would change about the game.

 

[viveks86]

Banned-awan?

 

[Labadal]

Vavra is not only a cunt for how he acted pre-release, but also for pulling the rug, and now saying something like this. He can fuck off.

 

[Shadowstar39]

The problem is deeper than it seems. I think Warhorse also recruited DEI employees, because KCD2 is quite strongly oriented towards the "modern mass audience" and this is an alarm bell.

Google photo of Warhorse employees. In 2017 there was most men and in 2023 they took a photo where there is only women (probably that is just a photo, i guess there are still more men in Warhorse, but this is indicative of DEI approach of recent Warhorse)

KCD2 is woke in much more ways than just Musa and menloving

For example, the characters in the plot constantly grimace, make unfunny jokes, make faces like the characters of Marvel movies. In KKD2, you can feel the influence of modern culture.

These dull quests, where you follow the characters on foot, like typical quests in modern games, when the NPC plays for you, leads you, and you just follow.

Also, modern developers are simply obsessed with all these metrics, like player engagement, and KCD2 is an excessively long, drawn-out game, as if they specially stretched it to fit these modern criteria.

These DEI developers just don't know how to make cool games, they don't feel it, they are the most dull people, that's why they rely so much on metrics. And in KCD2 you can feel the influance of such approach. Half of the game is still good, but the other half is a boring, drawn out walking talking simulator.

In general, in fact, KKD2 disappoints in almost every way. The first part was simply brilliand. It was so soulful. You really felt for the characters. The gameplay was free from the very beginning, compare the prologue from KKD1, where the player could end up in the cellar and burn there during the attack on the village, compare this with the prologue from the second part, where you follow Mr. Ptachek for 2 hours.

And the second part, in principle, feels half like this prologue. Half, yes, some spirit was still half preserved in the second game. There is very beautiful nature and atmosphere.

It feels like they started making the game with their own team, and in the middle of development they hired DEI employees and reoriented the development to a modern mass audience.

In general, Musa and Ptachek's orientation are not even the main Woke shortcomings of this game, this is just the cherry on the cake.

2017:

2023:

The first photo does have women in it. They probably increased the team size significantly.
At least they look like women and no blue-hairs (well maybe a pink haired one on the right), but still compared with Western studios, much different.

The game is great all in all, but yeah you can sometimes feel the wokeness. The lack of churches for one is odd. Henry even stated this in game that he thought it was really odd as he is used to churches in every burg but the towns in the first half only have one near the castle.

As for gay romance stuff, I could care less as long as its optional and you can still be friends with Hans, and without beating you over the head asking about it.


Personally I have 50+ hours in the game and haven't left the first map, at least 1/4 of it is still under grey clouds.
I love the atmosphere and the world. Also the characters so far. Its my goty for 2025 so far.

I will be in this game for a long time. Haven't had one side quest that has been cringy yet (although I know they exist in the big city, which the more things change the more they stay the same... cities are more woke today too, which makes sense with more people more weirdness).

As for Vavra, i hate that he caved, but understand the enormous pressure he was under, plus its not just him the whole team. That combined with the 2020 years political climate, it makes sense. At least it was not in your face and beating you over the head with it all. KCD2 still feels and plays much like the first game. Hopefully if they make a 3rd game they do what they want. Of course that could mean making it woke, much worse than it is, which would suck big time.

 

[Boss Man]

Skipped this game due to the lack of Puerto Rican representation.

 

[SlimySnake]

Studio size of 250, 19 women. 7.6% female, 92.4% male. Very scary stuff.

The first photo has 55 people, 5 of whom are women. 9.1% female, 90.9% male,

Oh no, they became even less Woke, better call Kotaku.

Thanks for this post. This 343i picture was also floated around during the Craig fiasco to blame 343i's failings with Halo Infinite squarely on the 50 or 60 women in this post. I remember checking their total employee count and they were upto 750 devs at one point. Blaming 6% of the studio to fit a narrative just really got under my skin back then.

 

[Denton]

I was trying to show with this photo that Warhorse is committed to DEI! Not that all the men left the studio! NOT that there are more women there now. On the contrary, I directly said that I think men are still the majority there!

But hiring based on gender is bad! It hurts quality. And Warhorse has clearly started hiring more women!

Jesus F. Christ you are a moron. Warhorse is hiring based on competency. Czechland is not California.
The most busty character model in the game was modeled by a woman btw.

As is this one

DEI OH NO

 

[Kacho]

The most busty character model in the game was modeled by a woman btw.

sauce?

 

[bender]

Be it good games, bad games, or something in-between, it feels like every other day one is picked out for the next ideological battleground.

 

[Denton]

sauce?

6 hours long czech charity stream with Dan Vávra.

 

[Kacho]

6 hours long czech charity stream with Dan Vávra.

No, I'm asking if the model has a name. I am a big fan of sweater puppies.

 

[Denton]

No, I'm asking if the model has a name. I am a big fan of sweater puppies.

Katherine was modeled and (in Czech) voice acted by Kristýna Leichtová

She looks better in game than irl these days though

 

[Buggy Loop]

Meltdowns continue at the sight of a 250 person company employing any women. Fascinating.

Not only that, but they delivered a GOTY contender

If the game was total shit, then by all means tinfoil hat theories have some leeway, but for KCD 2 its insane. Critiques for the sequel? I have not played it but I can imagine that's possible. I also have critiques for the first game after finishing it ~1 month or so ago as my first full playthrough.

 

[near]

Be it good games, bad games, or something in-between, it feels like every other day one is picked out for the next ideological battleground.

Long may it continue.

 

[bender]

Long may it continue.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Nobody to blame but the devs.

1. Having a game with relationships or marrying each other creates this kind of issue. Then it’s up to the game maker to do lbtq stuff or not

2. Forcefully adding in lbgt content

They wouldnt need to worry about this if the game didn’t have this kind of sexual stuff in it to begin with.

Most games don’t. Even if you only look at RPGs, most don’t either.

 

[jason10mm]

Imagine a game similar to this but the twist would be your main character would be sent into the future into a REE utopia, kinda like the movie Idiocracy.

We need the Robocop/Terminator guys to make a satirical game based on this...

 

[Toons]

A 9% female staff ratio over 91% male staff ratio is not "DEI", nor do you have the SLIGHTEST of idea if those women were hired on merit or not.

You've made your point, it's just not a very good or well thought out one.

So many people want an office with only dudes

Kinda gay ngl

 

[Gamer79]

I too, fear boobies in the workplace

I fear she catches me looking! In modern culture all a woman has to do is whisper sexual harassment and your ass is good as grass.

 

[Topher]

Now find the percentage of men an women at Warhorse 8 years ago and compare.

And understand by now that it's not about the percentage of men and women. But whether this studio is subject to DEI politics or not. If it is, it affects creative decisions, among other things. Hence Musa, Ptacheks love for men.

I never cared how many women work there. I sadi that if they hire based on DEI politics they also make creative decisions made on DEI politics.

Buggy Loop you tried to tell him

 

[Buggy Loop]

Jeeeeeeesus

I need to play this game soon

 

[Shmunter]

So many people want an office with only dudes

Kinda gay ngl

Not to mention who’s going to fetch the coffee and type out the meeting notes

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Not to mention who’s going to fetch the coffee and type out the meeting notes

The only thing that gives me the motivation to get up every morning is knowing i'll be able engage in sexual workplace misconduct

 

[Chuck Berry]

The Witcher 3 pulled them off well, but that was a while ago.

So did the Mass Effect trilogy as corny as the scenes looked.

 

[EviLore]

So many people want an office with only dudes

Kinda gay ngl

Explains why Vavra included the Hans romance option!

 

[Kamina]

Playing the game it becomes apparent that it doesn’t make sense to have this option anyway, so of course it was for woke-points.
However, catering to the crazy crowd will never be enough. Ignoring them is the best course of action.

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

A 9% female staff ratio over 91% male staff ratio is not "DEI", nor do you have the SLIGHTEST of idea if those women were hired on merit or not.

You've made your point, it's just not a very good or well thought out one.

Yep.

Now if most of these hires were purple and blue haired crazies then he *might* have a point.

Ultimately 50% of the world is female therefore it is only natural there will be both genders present in any workplace, although gaming seems to be largely a male dominated industry.

 

[Chuck Berry]

We need the Robocop/Terminator guys to make a satirical game based on this...

Have you ever played the actual game(s)?

They weren't that terrible lol

No Taco Bell licensing though. Would've been rad as health pickups.

 

[LectureMaster]

Jeeeeeeesus

I need to play this game soon

Spoiler

There is a lengthy mission where you need to help her reopen the bathhouse business and you will be rewarded as a lifetime VIP.

 

[Signalis]

As I recall, there was an investor bragging on Twitter that he was the one pusing for this to be included in the game

 

[Signalis]

Have you ever played the actual game(s)?

They weren't that terrible lol

No Taco Bell licensing though. Would've been rad as health pickups.

I have and Robocop was/is fantastic and Terminator was really good as well. Might as well get them to do a Judge Dredd game as well. These devs really seem to actually like and care about the IPs they are working on

 

[UnrealEck]

Until he sucks a lady's penis, I'm sorry but I just cannot take his word for it that he's not a sexist.

 

[Chuck Berry]

I have and Robocop was/is fantastic and Terminator was really good as well. Might as well get them to do a Judge Dredd game as well. These devs really seem to actually like and care about the IPs they are working on

Yup Virgin Interactive was pretty good with the licensed stuff back in the 16 bit days. They all had some bangin music tracks as well thanks to Tommy Tallarico & co.

Acclaim put out a Stallone Judge Dredd game too which was ehhhhhhh but playable

 

[Signalis]

Yup Virgin Interactive was pretty good with the licensed stuff back in the 16 bit days. They all had some bangin music tracks as well thanks to Tommy Tallarico & co.

Acclaim put out a Stallone Judge Dredd game too which was ehhhhhhh but playable

I still actually have my MegaDrive copy of Judge Dredd, the game kicked my ass so bad when I was younger, I know StarGate was also extremely difficult, used to rent it at a video store on weekends. Though looking back now, Stargate wasn't that good though

 

[Chuck Berry]

I still actually have my MegaDrive copy of Judge Dredd, the game kicked my ass so bad when I was younger, I know StarGate was also extremely difficult, used to rent it at a video store on weekends. Though looking back now, Stargate wasn't that good though

I remember playing Stargate and thought it was pretty cool but hard as hell. Need to revisit.