ScraftyDevil
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I see your power of love, and raise my power of a big friggin' sword. Ball's in your court, dood.
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Kid Icarus Uprising |OT| On a Wing and a Prayer
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I see your power of love, and raise my power of a big friggin' sword. Ball's in your court, dood.
StAidan
Member
Haha, I feel like an idiot. Chapter
spoilers.
17
I started chapter 17 (Aurum Brain) on intensity 6.0, as is my habit when doing a level I've never played before. Did all right all the way up to the boss, where I proceeded to die several times firing away at Pyrron in his shielded state, wondering why the heck he was such a bullet sponge.
Didn't figure out I had to deactivate the shield until I'd been knocked all the way down to 2.5 intensity. *cry*
Didn't figure out I had to deactivate the shield until I'd been knocked all the way down to 2.5 intensity. *cry*
SuperDowns
Banned
I seem to have major trouble with beating intensity 9 chapters. I've got the 1st one but the rest either knock me to 8 or 7 eventually some time in the chapter.
There seems to be a lot of fellas here able to complete these chapters on 9.
What types of weapons are you using? I assume staves for long range sniping. Or are there claw based players?
What are the stats to look for? What are the broken stats for beating these? A lot of shot defense? Evasion? Overall defense? Do I worry about the star damage for ranged/melee or focus on mid level stars and really broken stats?
At the item level cap I've seem to hit 320ish, it is either ridiculous extra stats or full ranged/melee stars.
Also what are the broken powers for these chapters?
There seems to be a lot of fellas here able to complete these chapters on 9.
What types of weapons are you using? I assume staves for long range sniping. Or are there claw based players?
What are the stats to look for? What are the broken stats for beating these? A lot of shot defense? Evasion? Overall defense? Do I worry about the star damage for ranged/melee or focus on mid level stars and really broken stats?
At the item level cap I've seem to hit 320ish, it is either ridiculous extra stats or full ranged/melee stars.
Also what are the broken powers for these chapters?
Evasion and In-Peril Auto Dodge are really good.
Air Battles are sometimes the harder things at 9.0.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
I have a Bomber Arm with +6 health, so it's not 5.
Ah, duh. So do I. I definitely think it is +6 though.
Incitemaybe
Member
Playing this game while I'm sick and swimming in medicine = constant death
Smashkirby
Member
In some ways I feel happy I'm left handed and use buttons for this exact reason. It's so easy to press every button and Pit just La de da's off a cliff.
Improved with time for me, but it's never 'perfect'.
olimpia84
Member
It happened to me a lot as well. Very annoying.
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Deleted member 30609
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I can't stand this game. The actual act of playing ground levels is so damn tedious. I'm not a fan of the pacing, either. The "level select->flying->foot->level select" thing isn't working for me at all.
The controls just aren't good enough. Maybe I'm wrong, and the controls are fine, and the blame instead lies with the enemy encounter design, but I suspect it's probably a bit of both. The action-loop feels completely amateurish. I always feel a level removed from being completely involved in the action, probably because I'm wrestling with Pitt or his weird car thing, or I'm being distracted by having to change positions because my wrist is getting sore. It feels like a game designed in a vacuum. So little care was placed on how an end-user might actually access the content. It's mind-boggling.
The controls just aren't good enough. Maybe I'm wrong, and the controls are fine, and the blame instead lies with the enemy encounter design, but I suspect it's probably a bit of both. The action-loop feels completely amateurish. I always feel a level removed from being completely involved in the action, probably because I'm wrestling with Pitt or his weird car thing, or I'm being distracted by having to change positions because my wrist is getting sore. It feels like a game designed in a vacuum. So little care was placed on how an end-user might actually access the content. It's mind-boggling.
I was just playing chapter 8 and kept fall off the edge just trying to move after sniping with my staff. Frankly I don't understand the logic behind making some paths have invisible guard railings while having others just let you fall to your death.
I just did that level for the first time. I dashed into lava a lot. It burned.
Again, dash controls are the worst part of the controls (outside of the ergonomics of the system itself)
I'm not playing this game (I desperately want to get a 3DS for myself just for this game, that's how sweet it deems from what I've read in the thread), but I've been thinking: don't you think that the best unexpected thing from this game is how Sakurai's team can now apparently implement good, actually functional netcode in their games?
The next Smash Bros. is gonna be insane!
The next Smash Bros. is gonna be insane!
That was my initial thoughts as well. I'm really excited to see what they can do for smash bros. 3d online.
PkunkFury
Member
Yeah, this was a huge problem for me... You can never tell what ledges will allow you to fall vs. which ones will block you. It makes exploring a real pain.
For my first play through I had the same problem others are voicing, where I would move Pit from standing and dash right off a cliff or into an obstacle. Eventually I learned to tap the analog pad, rather than pull it all the way in a single direction, keeping Pit in the walking animation until I was sure of my surroundings. With most games, you never use the intermediary motion speeds, but with KI, going from stand to a side dash is a recipe for disaster
And for a game with cagey controls, they sure throw a lot of narrow ledges, platforming, and electrified walls at you.
I found the dashing to be way more trouble than the camera control/stylus stuff that gets a lot of flak. Especially since the combat is designed around dashing to dodge enemy fire and activate your best attacks. Fighting a hoard of enemies on a tiny platform with no walls, or while surrounded by electric fence ruins the combat mechanics
Fortunately, the multiplayer arenas are large, flat and allow for the best application of the combat controls. Also, the game still manages to be awesome
Trancetronic
Member
Can anyone explain clashing? I'm still trying to figure it out. Does it work like rock, paper, etc?
Any idea when exactly the gems go out for spotpass? For the week, if I want WiFi I have to physically turn it on, so if it's in the middle of the night I can't really do anything about it.
Also, as someone's been saying throughout the thread, the exotank controls work when you ignore the stylus and just use the stick (/buttons). It's really weird but true.
Edit:
Oh, and I almost 9.0'd level 3, but that damn part with
And does anyone know a short chapter for Centurion assists, or something to that effect? If I can get that one and even a single SpotPass gem I can clear the Palutena board by using my feathers for the pointlessly frustrating ones (Crisis Mode, gem fusion/trading).
Also, as someone's been saying throughout the thread, the exotank controls work when you ignore the stylus and just use the stick (/buttons). It's really weird but true.
Edit:
Oh, and I almost 9.0'd level 3, but that damn part with
the pillar guy and the "hey look at me" guy at the VERY end got me. The distraction guy screwed up my dodging around the pillar guy's lasers and that was it. Grr...
Smashkirby
Member
I saw in the random tips that its determined by the weight of the weapon. Usually this means the faster weapon, like claws, wins clashing.
Sometimes though, you might lose sight of the enemy as they whip around the screen, which makes you attack the air and they attack you as you miss. My rough explanation.
Also for the post above me, Centurion assists in mutiplayer DO count. You could always try your hand at that.
Incitemaybe
Member
Good games everyone. I hope you liked the hearts I gave you Gospel
Invisible heart attack!!! Gahhh!
Good games everyone. I hope you liked the hearts I gave you Gospel
Morale was low when you joined. I had to bail because... uh, I was... my hand was tired. Yea, that's it.
Trancetronic
Member
Looks like I came into late? =(
Invisible? Good idea! I'll add invisible shot to my power list.
Transparancy + Invisible Shot + Hearts... Mwhahahaha!
Saint Gregory
Member
I hope you guys are happy, one of your charged dash attacks destroyed my home internet
I can't really argue with whether or not you like the controls, but I don't really understand what you mean by this.
What's wrong with the enemy encounter design? I think they do a good job at keeping things interesting. They're frequently introducing new enemies with new attack patterns and weaknesses and throwing them at you in different groups.
And I don't really know what you mean by "the action-loop feels completely amateurish" either. It's about shooting when you see an opening, knowing when to stop shooting so you can get invincibility on your dodge, and knowing when to use dash shots and charge shots.
I can't really say you're wrong for not liking the controls, but I will say that you're wrong on the fidelity of the controls. There are some weird quirks - see the current discussion about dashing off ledges, for example. But it's also the kind of game where I could easily see someone mastering it to the point where they can beat it on the hardest difficulty without getting hit.
ColtraineGF
Member
Apparently, it becomes gold when you find everything in a level (secret treasure, difficulty gates), or so I've heard.
Smashkirby
Member
If you've opened all treasure chests in a chapter
MuddyDonut
Member
Honestly I would not bother discussing the controls in this thread. Some people refuse to listen and it's quite embarrassing.
But luckily for me, I am a big sucker for Sakurai and the controls don't get in the way of my love for this game, although I definitely see how it could for others.