That's exactly how I'd like my daughter to learn to not trust strangers... With nothing lost but some time, and nothing bruised but her ego.
Kid share plays Destiny to stranger...
- Thread starter SirMossyBloke
- Start date
That's exactly how I'd like my daughter to learn to not trust strangers... With nothing lost but some time, and nothing bruised but her ego.
So who is this victim nobody is noticing? Who am I failing to perceive? If there is truly no victim, then it isn't cheating.
completely agree. if an adult sends 2500 dollars to some "friend" thru western union he/she is an idiot. if a kid lends some money or tries something to have it completely backfire in a horrible way its two very different situation. I simply cant comprehend how so many posters cant emphatize with a kid... its a friggin child for Christ's sake
Are you cool with Aimbots also? Would you feel bad if a 11 year aimbot using kid got his account deleted in say counter strike or Battlefield?
LightningXCE
Member
Droopaloop
Banned
He obviously was doing it for the justification of cheaters in Destiny. Thanks guy for deleting a fucking kids character off of Destiny for cheating, because that benefits me to levels I cannot even comprehend.
Guy's an asshole. Nothing else to it. The fact that it's just a kid makes it that much worse. Shit I started Destiny a month ago and am now a 28. I would physically hurt people who's intent was to ruin that just because the amount of time it took.
That would be affecting other's experience and yes that would be wrong, but in this case he was only trying to level his own character. Also, it's an MMO. Everyone exploits them wherever they can.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Deleting a kid's characters and gear for lolz is like a gateway drug to swatting.
or you know you protect her as a parent and she grows up and learns naturally over time what is right and wrong instead of not trusting ppl .
Yes, I watched the entire video, and I still don't understand how that makes my statement incorrect. If he didn't attempt to cheat, his characters would still be intact.
It's not rocket science...
Again, there is no such cheat. Watch the video. It's just a guy convincing a kid to share play with him for whatever excuse.
I'm free to talk about the parenting techniques his parents employed. I disregard your line. It's shitty parenting to make your kid to feel like an idiot for lending stuff to a friend. Parenting isn't some sacred ritual that must never be criticized.
Net_Wrecker
Member
You could say he was Destined to be taught this life lesson by this particular douchebag who, coincidentally, was available to troll him at that exact moment in time as their physical selves crossed paths on this Earthly plane through the digital interconnectedness we call the internet.
Sounds like fate to me.
He would've gotten a level 20 in Destiny. How is that morally wrong to you?
skLaFarebear
Member
The biggest thing I want to know is does Destiny not have some kind of cloud functionality to back up your characters onto in case of something like this happening? (maybe with a younger brother or something that plays on your PS4).
Muskieratboi
Member
Well, other than the whole 'he shouldn't be playing destiny at his age' thing, I'm sure bungie in their benevolence can roll back his guardians.
I have never played destiny and my wow days are long gone.
But I see your confusion. You do not know the difference between a glitch and a cheat. No wonder you are claiming such nonsense.
My 8 and 6 year old boys play Destiny all the time, although with no voice com but would hate to see this happen to them. Some people get off on weird Shit.It's a lesson that the kid has been given the opportunity to learn without any real harm done. "People can be dicks. You can't always trust people on face value". It sucks, but I'm sure many GAFers (including myself) who played MMO-type games when they were younger have similar stories and experiences. It's something you have to learn from.
It's happened to me too. But I will never accept this behaviour. We shouldn't tell ourselves it's "okay" or that it's our own fault. Someone still played us. It's only a videogame, but fuck me if doing something like this isn't proof the person is probably shitty IRL too. Unless the other guy is 11 too. But even then, we shouldn't say "he had it coming, " deserved", "karma" etc.
Gitch abusing is cheating, that's common in most MMOs ToSs.
I do t get why you think the only way your parents could make you learn a lesson is to make you feel like an idiot. There are better ways than making them feel like an idiot or always make them feel like they are amazing. These are not the only two options.
My thoughts exactly
Morning Star
Member
That's a pretty narrow view of what constitutes cheating. How exactly is circumventing the established means of leveling not cheating?
Angry Fork
Member
Saw this in the comments section from someone claiming to be the kid, had "Kramer" in his username along with the uploader of the vid so maybe it's legit.
Well that poster doesn't seem to think it's a big deal, he even said double health would be fine to him.
Also, let's get this straight. I'm positive 90% of the people who said they don't feel bad for him also don't think it's cool the dude fucked his account up and deleted things. That's still fucked up, and that dude is a asshole.
I still can't feel bad for what happened because this kid was knowingly doing something he knew he shouldn't be doing. Lesson learned, and a rather harmless one at that.
What happened to your empathy? Or is making personal attacks on his mom and dad cool for you now.
I've already made it clear to you what the nature of these exploits are. Why are you even bringing up aimbots?
Shining Sunshine
Banned
The sad thing is that a lot of the hard encounters are so easily cheesable.
I remember the Nexus hard mode just flying on top of that disc and kill everything below it.
King Tubby
Member
I'm not gonna say my parents are perfect, but I come from a working class family, I was going to public school, living in a shitty neighborhood. A Gameboy was not some trifle to treat with no value, it was expensive and they had to work hard to get it for me. I had to learn the lesson to value things and be more responsible. You calling it shitty parenting with little to no information is just foolish. I'm done with this thread.
For real. The guy who deleted his account was a total jerk. But people are acting like this is some kind of tragic atrocity when the stakes almost literally could not be any lower.
he shouldnt. dont you think him crying and those moments already taught him that lesson.?? and you protect a child and make it right so they know there is right in the world too. He already suffered enough . Anyway im bailing on this thread some of the opinions are seriously making me super pissed off and angry on how ppl think kids are already adults.
While it sucks that this happened to that kid, its a reality of the world. It sucks. Even if only 1% of people are assholes, you can't trust anyone because you can't know if they are in that one percent.
I'm glad that all that happened is he lost some characters.
Things could have gone down really differently irl and now he's learned about trusting other people.
This is a lose win situation.
I'm glad that all that happened is he lost some characters.
Things could have gone down really differently irl and now he's learned about trusting other people.
This is a lose win situation.
Shouldn't be doing according to who? Nobody cares about these glitches. Bungie doesn't even care. Why are you acting like a kid doing a glitch in a video game is like him doing some actual mischievous act? The kid wanted to skip an extremely boring grind.
Like I previously said, I haven't played Destiny, so I don't know all the details about the game, but in other MMO's, cheating can have an adverse effect on the game. It can give players and edge in PVP(if the game has it), destabilize in game economy(if the game has it), but mostly boils down to just right and wrong.
Angry Fork
Member
Do you think children should be tried as adults if they commit a crime?
At no point did I say cheating was good.
There are two issues here, as I see it: 1. Whether the person serving the punishment is in a position to do so, and 2. Whether the punishment fits the crime. The answer to both seems to be obviously no.
I'm also not arguing for coddling. Sure you need to learn not to be gullible. But there's an important difference between "that really sucks, kid. Better be more careful in the future" and "serves you right, dummy."
And I want my daughter to learn from me telling her what can happen. Not losing something she holds dear and ending up in tears over it.
I'm just saying it's gaming equivalent of approaching a lion and being angry that you got mauled. You have to operate with the knowledge that this kind of thing is something that can and will be done to you if you allow enough opportunities. It's the reason why you or I wouldn't post our GAF account details on 4chan, because we know it is unlikely that someone would take over our accounts and make insightful, funny posts. It would be nice, but you can't expect that.
I'm just saying that a MMO player has to be aware that this is one of the many consequences of being loose with an MMO account, and among the likeliest.
and when you were 11 your concept of right and wrong was super developed? And you understood everything? the world?
So if bungie doesn't care, why don't they let you just skip it then?
I don't need to know much else. Making your kid feel stupid, your words, for lending their friend borrow it is shitty parenting. I didn't say they were shitty parents. I said that is an act of shitty parenting. Every parent is guilty of shitty parenting because parents are human and make mistakes. if there is a "Big Book of Parenting" and it said "Make your kid feel like an idiot if he loses his expensive toy by letting his friend borrow it", I'd say that's some shitty parenting advice.
Sorry, "attempted cheating"
Sylverstone14
Member
Damn, that was stone cold.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Sucks for the kid but that's the dangers of playing online. If he isn't old enough to accept the risk and he isn't old enough to avoid them then he isn't old enough to be playing with them.
He also isn't old enough to play the game per it rating but that's another discussion.
He also isn't old enough to play the game per it rating but that's another discussion.
Why does it matter if it exists, the kid clearly thought it did. Just because it's not real doesn't make the intent any different.
I have no idea what the fuck you're babbling about.
That's your interpretation then. I see it like this: 'If the 11 year old kid hadn't been tricked by an older guy, his characters would still be intact'.
I think the fact that he got tricked into something is more important than the perceived cheating. But you see it differently.
I think the intent of the older guy matters more than the intent of the kid, that's my point.
Why doesn't Bungie fix the glitch that lets you defeat nearly every boss with ease? Why doesn't Bungie fix the quit/return exploit? Why doesn't Bungie fix the idling in Playlists exploit? Why doesn't Bungie fix the glimmer farming exploits? Why doesn't Bungie fix the solo-able raid exploits? Why doesn't Bungie fix the invulnerable zone exploits? Why doesn't Bungie fix the enemy respawning exploits? Why doesn't Bungie fix the double bounty xp exploit?
Because Bungie doesn't care. They made a big grind ramp and if you find a way to get past the grind, good for you and enjoy the saved time.