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Kill la Kill |OT|
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Some people on /a/ are saying that according to some Newtype interviews, there was a rewrite, and the intial plot was scrapped after episode 12. I'm not sure if it's actually true though I do have link to a few interviews (I'm not sure if it's all of the interviews given the date of the post though)
Would confirm what I've been saying from the beginning. Don't blame them though, the story seemed very boring at the start, wasn't until the switch that stuff started to heat up.
I won't disagree with the first half being boring but, if this rewrite is true, I would easily have taken the old plot if it meant better fights (as opposed to all of the boring slappy fights we got in the last 3rd of the current show) and, Nui also had a more painful death.
Jex
Member
Also, from the initial description of the show:
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I remember that idea! Apparently that's no longer the case though! That does explain why the academy, and everything surrounding it, looks like it takes place in it's own weird universe while the rest of the show is, apparently, just set in the real world.
Once again, sounds like the idea was about the uniforms and how they reflect your personality/skills.
Also, from the Original Hype Thread:
You can see how most of these ideas just kind of got dropped or ignored as the show went along. If Kill la Kill is set in normal reality, as it appears to be, why did all these people at the start of the show live under the boot of Satsuki? Why do schools have so much power and their own armies? It makes sense in some kind of post-apocalypitic land torn apart by war in and battle, but what about when it gradually turns into the real world?
When Ryuuko goes berserk, Aikuro lines up a shot on her, but he hesitates to pull the trigger and misses his opportunity. We never hear from that bullet ever again.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
We never really get a good glimpse of life outside of the schools and their immediate areas of influence, and the rival universities are almost as outlandish (if not as apparently oppressive). Never really seemed like a "real" world to me.
Jex
Member
The story, was originally pitched, was set in a post-apocalypse of some kind. This matches the look and feel of the early tone of the show, the setting, the art etc. We also know that its set on Earth somewhere along our future timeline (the reference to Hitler in episode 1). At some point in the history of the show Kill la Kill's timeline would have diverged from our own after some big event happened leading to the land ruled by the academies and uniforms. Yet that's literally never addressed in the show even though you'd imagine that how the world came to be in such a state would be kind of important. It's not addressed in the info dump in ep 12 either.
Moreover, the REVOCS brand appears to belong to a perfectly normal global corporation set in a perfectly normal world. They have a brand known and distributed around the planet. Whenever we see shots of people wearing the clothing in other countries they look pretty down to earth and normal, not like they're set in some kind of crazy war torn future! It just doesn't fit well with the early stuff and while, on it's own it's doesn't really 'prove' anything but when you take it into the wider context of the series it becomes clear that the originally story was changed quite drastically at some point.
The only one who is in DENIAL is YOU.
At the first scene we see Ryuuko waiting for Mako to arrive:
When they meet up they have a friendly(not romantic!) embrace:
The very next scene Mako is pushing Ryuuko up a hill to take her to Satsuki:
Upon arrival they're both shocked to see she cut her hair:
Cue girls-day out montage:
Gamagoori waiting to confess:
Walking scene, Mako and Satsuki in front, Ryuuko in back if she wanted Mako wouldn't Satsuki be in the back?:
Just admit it, you were SHIPPING the whole time.
Only Tsumugu was really thrown into the trash
Sanageyama, besides the embarassing Nui defeat (which was entirely his own fault btw, even Satsuki warned him against it) didn't do a whole lot, yeah, but he didn't have the role of jobbing three episodes in a row unlike Tsumugu
If anything, Sanageyama's personality in the earlier episodes was weird. He's pretty supportive of his fellow sports clubs at first and shows a moderate amount of loyalty to Satsuki, and then it feels like he gets this blood knight attitude out of nowhere in episode 5 where he's even willing to go against Satsuki just to sate that.
I'm ashamed to admit I pretty much forgot about the post-apocalyptic setting, even though world building is one of the aspects I always look forward to in a show
Lee Chaolan
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hnnnngh Short hair Satsuki!
Mako's face and expression is soooooooo cute in the second picture.
Probably because the original story was more lowkey and it wasn't cutting it for Imaishi, who wanted to go balls to the walls.
The writing on the show has been a complete fucking disaster. Considering how much control Nakashima had, I can't imagine him screwing up this bad without somebody intervening heavily.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I caught up on everything late. I just watched the last 2/3rds of the show this weekend.
Plot-wise, I just think they had too many heroes and too few villains to flesh everyone out properly at the end. After the face turn, there would have had to have been some significant casualties on Team Satsuki or Nudist Beach to force Ryuko to pick up the mantle and actually develop as a character imo, but that wasn't happening. So Ryuko angsts for a while instead and Nudist Beach basically becomes inconsequential in every way after they spill all of the expository details.
Not like I watched for the plot, though. Mako could carry the show by herself. Many lols were had, and everything was wonderfully over the top.
Plot-wise, I just think they had too many heroes and too few villains to flesh everyone out properly at the end. After the face turn, there would have had to have been some significant casualties on Team Satsuki or Nudist Beach to force Ryuko to pick up the mantle and actually develop as a character imo, but that wasn't happening. So Ryuko angsts for a while instead and Nudist Beach basically becomes inconsequential in every way after they spill all of the expository details.
Not like I watched for the plot, though. Mako could carry the show by herself. Many lols were had, and everything was wonderfully over the top.
The only one who is in DENIAL is YOU.
Is it really not clear to some people that the credits scenes are from well after the events of the end fight?
It's clear the end scene isn't THE date. It'd be silly of them to have their date, (friendly or romantic) what is presumably, years later.
plasmawave
Banned
Started watching this show recently.
Soooo gooooood.
Soooo gooooood.
As I said a few weeks ago, shipping is half the fun!
Interficium
Banned
I just want to know why it was changed.
Clearly you're getting excited from different things than the rest of the thread.
What was the point of this again? It's not like he couldn't have just blocked Ragyo's attack in blind mode
He was hotter without the blindfold, don't need a better point than that.
If Mako and Ryuko have been bangin' for years by this point, why is Gama still trying to ask Mako out?
BECAUSE GAMA ISN'T A QUITTER
Thats really interesting, thanks for that.
I like the direction they took to be honest.
Femmeworth
Banned
Faux yuri is toxic.
Mr. Smiley
Member
victreeb3l
Member
Holy shit lmao
That is because it always comes down to the ship-to-ship battles
oh my...embrace me with that body please <3
Not many pics of him yet but yeah, he did not hold back!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.....0-9/10152609_602639826499049_259961626_n.jpg
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It's absolutely interesting, and I appreciate the fact that he went out of his way to dig up that information.
But what can I honestly add to the discussion?
"Ah that's interesting"
I'm just a dumb nerd who likes ships/fanart.
Eh I dunno... that's just conjecture on your part.
I think a more likely explanation is that their meeting was coincidental.
Cloud Strife
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Jex
Member
Looking at the work as a whole it's as someone else in the thread said earlier, Nui was probably a character that wasn't intended to be one of the main villains in the show but the way the story developed she ended up standing in for what could have been a few other characters.
Once again, I'm not looking at the show and saying "This story is bad because they made it up along the way!" or anything like that, I'm just interested in seeing how the show ended up being what it was. No judgement is implied.
Also worth nothing:
Basically, if someone came up for a cool idea or whatever, they'd just change the story there and then. It seems like, at some point the idea of life fibres as invading aliens was stumbled upon and from there they changed the show around.
RockTurtle
Member
Good point, but regardless they don't come across as a couple and Gamagoori is still lurking around to confess.
Fair enough, I'll concede on that.
Thanks for those posts about the cut story Jexhius. It's really interesting how much things changed. And a bit of a shame. Obviously I can't say if their original plans were better or worse, but it does suck that they threw out pretty much all the worldbuilding they set up. The final series didn't really have any as a result.
Lufiaddict
Member
Yes, thanks for the analysis and interview snippets, guys.
Somehow, I think this mess of a plot, with all its red herrings, loose ends and pacing problems, fits the show quite well. This story behaved like a teenager on the path to adulthood.
In the beginning, it didn't really think about the future and just wanted to have fun (=> "battles with special powers").
At time passed, it began to ponder the meaning of its life, what it wanted to become. It had tons of ideas, and tried many different things, but being so immature and fickle (at times cheerful, even silly, as in episode 4; other times gloomy and serious), it wasn't sure what path to follow.
Yet it progressively began to sort its life out. At the end of the show, one could say that it had "found its way". Sure, it left many of its dreams behind (Honnouji mecha etc), and it hadn't really sorted out all of its issues, but it chose a path and stuck to it (hence why some viewers have qualified the last episodes as "on-rails" or "by the numbers").
In other words: it was the coming-of-age of a story.
Somehow, I think this mess of a plot, with all its red herrings, loose ends and pacing problems, fits the show quite well. This story behaved like a teenager on the path to adulthood.
In the beginning, it didn't really think about the future and just wanted to have fun (=> "battles with special powers").
At time passed, it began to ponder the meaning of its life, what it wanted to become. It had tons of ideas, and tried many different things, but being so immature and fickle (at times cheerful, even silly, as in episode 4; other times gloomy and serious), it wasn't sure what path to follow.
Yet it progressively began to sort its life out. At the end of the show, one could say that it had "found its way". Sure, it left many of its dreams behind (Honnouji mecha etc), and it hadn't really sorted out all of its issues, but it chose a path and stuck to it (hence why some viewers have qualified the last episodes as "on-rails" or "by the numbers").
In other words: it was the coming-of-age of a story.
Nudist beach cosplays are becoming a thing. (a bit nfsw of course)
https://twitter.com/elisapika_pika/status/443030126054215680
https://twitter.com/SanutepChan/status/450544605772017664
https://twitter.com/NazrinUFO/status/447410482602061824
https://twitter.com/elisapika_pika/status/443030126054215680
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