.la1n
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Iron Galaxy would be the best possible news. They are also great at attention to detail and optimizing the online portion of fighters they have worked on.
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Killer Instinct |OT| New Look! New Moves! Same Killer Grooves!
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Iron Galaxy would be the best possible news. They are also great at attention to detail and optimizing the online portion of fighters they have worked on.
They say whether any of the DH staff will still be involved with KI after season 1? Im too lazy to watch the stream.
Edit: Just saw on the previous page that Dan is still there, thats good I think he was one of the combat designers..?
Edit: Just saw on the previous page that Dan is still there, thats good I think he was one of the combat designers..?
Hmm. https://twitter.com/Mick_Gordon/status/434188229382643712
Either his Fulgore theme is going in a REALLY WEIRD direction, or TJ Combo is in the pipeline.
(Or it's not KI related at all.)
Either his Fulgore theme is going in a REALLY WEIRD direction, or TJ Combo is in the pipeline.
(Or it's not KI related at all.)
God, I hope it's Combo! He's the last character I need added to make this feel like a complete KI entry.
Someone needs to tell Mick to go with Ox for the music track if it's for Combo.
I really hope its Combo. Him and Thunder were my favorites in KIC, and he was my main in KI2.
I'm actually thinking it isn't KI related.
Poker Face
Member
would be pretty amazing if they managed to somehow do it. I don't think it's possible to get fulgore+combo+lobbies+story all done for march though.
.la1n
Member
Well technically I believe they had Season 1 road map as running until July. Originally it was just going to be general support / patches after March but I don't see any reason why they couldn't have a character or two up their sleeve to release before they make their final departure from the project.
I'm not looking to laugh at anyone or watch an exhibition. I just want to grind out the matches.
I didn't say it was useless. I just feel it won't be a go-to for opening up an opponent when you don't have skulls. Also, Jago's OH has more range than Spinal's which makes it a better option. Not to mention that canceling Jago's into a Wind Kick is safer than canceling Spinal's into his specials.
Allow me to do a normal Skeleport in the air, but make it use a skull. If I do the heavy it's 2 skulls.
It takes more skill to play as Jago and Sabrewulf than it does to land an Ultra.
I would hope not. Mike Z stated he didn't like the new KI.
Oh okay, useage of strong language him then.
I think the creative directors at MS seem to be pretty keyed on and have a good understanding of how they want the game to play. Listening to the live streams it does sound as if they are as just as much responsible for the design decisions as DH is. I don't think they would let the gameplay go in a direction that they don't want it to.
I like listening to Adam speak about the game. For the guy basically in charge of this game he talks very openly and reveals more about the game than those under him.
Ya, because of this I don't see Lab Zero or Mike working on the game.
I don't think Mike would agree to it if he wasn't allowed to shape the game in his own direction, and MS seems smart enough to not let him mangle the game.
.la1n
Member
Nah they won't have Lab Zero work on KI. I actually enjoy Skull Girls quite a bit but it's a different beast than KI. I feel pretty good about the team at least doing their best to retain the foundation that Double Helix has built. The only real concern I have is if the development team change causes a significant delay in additional content it will kill the game before It even had a chance to gain a lot of momentum.
In the fan book Adam was interviewed and described how the internal KI team at MS provided design specs to DH for the game and characters. He also said DH would come back with suggestions, or submit new ideas, which is why it was a good partnership.
I think it's safe to say new KI is just as much, if not more so, the internal KI team's doing as it is DH. I have no doubt they will ensure its quality going forward, even if that means a delayed season 2 for a bit (hopefully not).
This is interesting, I wonder if for the original pitch MS gave those guidelines as well. Also curious why DH's prototype turned out the best and what other devs pitched one.
Wish I could tell you, screenshots so far does not seem much different.
Rey
Member
I just checked it now and its definitely much softer.
Willette (DH) says he nearly jumped out of his chair when he heard MS was taking pitches. He built a pitch deck, including concept art and combat flow, as well as a prototype with KI 2 mechanics as the base. He said the MS team loved it and green lit production. From there they worked together on evolving the combat system.
Retig (MS) says that DH not only showed the best understanding of what KI is about, but that they had the fighting game talent, tools, and passion for the project.
Verfaillie (DH), design director, says Willette came up with the idea for Instinct mode and MS came up with the bluff/Counter Breaker systems.
Isgreen says...
It seems apparent that KI is the baby of both their efforts. It's unfortunate the relationship is going to come to an end, but I think MS will ensure it's going to be in good hands.
imo there isn't much of a difference. They already reduced it in ki once. Things do look a bit better though. The only game where it was an actual "wow" level difference is in dr3.
betamax999
Member
Go to the Fight Archive section from the main menu and there should be a Stats sub-menu that will at least give you a general idea of where each character stands in terms of fight titles obtained.
Bayonettasbuddy
Neo Member
Any ideas for good wake-up when playing with Spinal? Teleport is pretty useless if you've not got skulls on wake-up. 
CommandThrower
Member
Any ideas for good wake-up when playing with Spinal? Teleport is pretty useless if you've not got skulls on wake-up.
Spinal's wake-up game is possibly his biggest weakness, if you ask me. As far as I know, you can get thrown out of the teleport's start-up anyway regardless on if you have skulls or not. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think you have to treat his wakeup game like Sadira's: sit there and take it. If you have meter, I suppose you could try and gamble it on a reversal super, but I don't think I'd recommend using any of Spinal's supers on wakeup. My experience with his wake-up options is that it's not in his favor to do any of his specials or supers. Just block, or jump if you think they're going to try a throw.
Speaking of Spinal, this is going to seem like a strange request, but does anybody know the circumstances of how the game crashing glitch with Spinal occurs? You just have to do a heavy teleport into the corner of Jago/Spinal's stage, right? I ask this only because I was trying to show my friends this glitch when I had mentioned it to them, but I just couldn't get it to happen, no matter what I tried. I'm glad I could not get the game to crash, but at the same time I couldn't actually prove the glitch was real. Does this crash glitch only happen randomly?
Bayonettasbuddy
Neo Member
Did this yesterday on Jago's stage. Thew out an aerial skull, friend was in the left corner and as it came down/he got up I heavy teleported. The game then crashed
Cheers for the advice btw, I love Spinal and his mix-up game. Just need to practice on defence/openers!
Any ideas for good wake-up when playing with Spinal? Teleport is pretty useless if you've not got skulls on wake-up.
To put it in perspective, Jago's c.LK can beat out all of Spinal's wake up options. Shadow Skeleport will just get blocked.
"Best" wake up options vary on how your opponent is attempting to attack you. If timed correctly, you can actually use Shadow Searing Skull (this Shadow move completely removes your hitbox briefly, but not reliably like a DP or actual invincible moves) to beat out a lot of meaty attacks, but it's very strict and heavily depends on the timing of the meaty. If you're aware of a cross up, you can correct your input for a LK Skeleport to try to gain distance, however this will get caught by any forward moving attack after the cross up (Wind Kick-like moves) due to the recovery of the Skeleport (but this can be Shadow move cancelled if you predict them to come at you).
Often enough, it's better to just block or learn how to block better, including memorizing what everyone's Auto-doubles look like (being good at counting hits on Linkers is key in defense too). Nothing is more irritating in a fighting game than a heavy mix up character backed up by a player's natural defense.
I love this game. I am not very good at it, like many fighting games, but I can still have so much fun with it, and it'll feel so much more rewarding when I pull off something cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DGvA6iadl0
I love that I can also just say "Xbox Record that" to save those awesome moments that I want to share ^_^
Edit:
I do have one problem though, and this is more of a technical issue. None of my customization stuff seems to work, or save properly. For instance, my Icon never saves, and I can't see other players icons properly. It just shows a series of red and black vertical lines(which is present in my video above) I got the RAREWARE icon cuz I wanted to see it.
As far as customization though, I play Orchid a lot, and it never saves the outfits I choose for her when I reboot the game. It'll keep whatever I purchased unlocked, but it'll never save the designs.
I'm sure if I look through the thread more, I might see something similar, but is there any solution to fix this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DGvA6iadl0
I love that I can also just say "Xbox Record that" to save those awesome moments that I want to share ^_^
Edit:
I do have one problem though, and this is more of a technical issue. None of my customization stuff seems to work, or save properly. For instance, my Icon never saves, and I can't see other players icons properly. It just shows a series of red and black vertical lines(which is present in my video above) I got the RAREWARE icon cuz I wanted to see it.
As far as customization though, I play Orchid a lot, and it never saves the outfits I choose for her when I reboot the game. It'll keep whatever I purchased unlocked, but it'll never save the designs.
I'm sure if I look through the thread more, I might see something similar, but is there any solution to fix this?
Poker Face
Member
You're in jail because someone either disconnected from your match, or you disconnected from a match and that's why your emblem won't change (it's supposed to look like jail bars) There's been a lot of issues with saving after the latest patch. No fixes yet, but Double Helix is working on a patch.
Oh geez, now that sucks! Because I did have a match like that, but it was some jerk who quit the match. What upset me about that before too was that I ranked down because of it, so instead of it counting as a win for me, it counted as a loss...now that sucks...
Edit:
Alright, this really sucks, the whole ranked system is broken because of this I'm realizing now. I mean...I can't get up more than one rank, because all it takes is one asshole who doesn't like that they're going to lose, so they quit...I don't get the win, and it counts as a lose.
Ugh same here. Was grinding out Fight Titles with Orchid in Exhibition. A few well placed combos and the dude pulls the plug. I end up in jail. Very frustrating.
.la1n
Member
bumpkin
Member
Are the fight titles and/or achievements buggy/broken right now to anyone's knowledge? Did they change something where the little pop-up panels for KP unlocks get set to off by default in an update?
I feel as though I should have unlocked some when I was playing last night, but nothing came up during my session.
I feel as though I should have unlocked some when I was playing last night, but nothing came up during my session.
sixteen-bit
Member
That's a godlike gamertag.
40 bucks for a 12-month card is a good price anyway. Even if a 35 dollar one is bound to pop up on Amazon, Newegg, etc. Peace of mind and Shadow Jago for only 5 dollars more, why not.
Maximillian has the new Assist Me: KI advanced techniques up. I had no idea you could end Ultras early w/ MP+MK? Cool stuff.
Started playing this game again this weekend and man, I suck, or everyone got better (likely both). I really need to try to mod an extra controller into my arcade stick, seems simple enough. I have a problem of panicking when my opponent gets in danger.
Started playing this game again this weekend and man, I suck, or everyone got better (likely both). I really need to try to mod an extra controller into my arcade stick, seems simple enough. I have a problem of panicking when my opponent gets in danger.
Not only end them, but also use this as extra flavour with a double ultra
I like Glacius ender the most, follower by Orchid's.