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Killer Instinct |OT| New Look! New Moves! Same Killer Grooves!
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Yes but nobody knows for sure who owns it. Its very likely that Microsoft owns the rights to use it as they see fit moving forward, if not they fucked up bad.
I'm a little more optimistic than most even though I know Max probably has some inside info from talking to the Double Helix guys and being involved with the game from a PR level this much.
The KI team at Microsoft is important for keeping the game going and its not like Microsoft has a lot of other avenues to invest in for the Xbox One. They have "fuck all" money and could easily hire a bunch of hot shots to learn the engine and start working on it.
Poker Face
Member
money and talent doesn't always solve problems.
You're right, but it certainly helps. You need people to be able to throw at this problem.
Let's be frank here. If we don't get additional KI content (post-Fulgore) before mid-2015, the game is dead. Either that won't be the case, or MS has plans to make a full KI and simply release that in 2015 or beyond.
Even if everyone at DHG moves to Amazon, Fulgore is pretty close to being done. I'd wager at least 2-3 season two characters have a base model and move set. It doesn't take a year to learn a new engine, especially when all you're doing is building off an existing platform. Look at how Activison tossed CoD to Sledgehammer, Obsidian took over the KOTOR franchise, etc. Once the engine is done and there's a large platform to begin additional work, development goes much faster.
That said, I would guess that at least a few DH employees get picked up by Microsoft. I can't imagine every single KI dev team member staying on at DH to work on Android games for the foreseeable future, and MS will want as many of those guys as possible to continue working on KI.
Poker Face
Member
Lobbies and Story Mode are part of season 1.
I do and it's usually my character counter pick when i see a very good spinal in ranked
Add me if you want
KI Heisenberg
I do and it's usually my character counter pick when i see a very good spinal in ranked
Add me if you want
KI Heisenberg
Added.
Can you play now?
i should be online in a couple of hours or tonight not sure
Poker Face
Member
ugh after not playing for like a week i was so rusty. took me like 20 games to get a supreme victory for the pin challenge.
Gunstarheroes
Member
Man, i almost threw my controller today. Ranked glitch just took me from Rank 4 to 1 due to the jail glitch. Every match i won, they left. Everytime i lost, that got to stay.
.la1n
Member
A fix is on the way, some day.
Another reason to go for a TE2 stick - too heavy to throw.
.la1n
Member
Double Helix is requesting our help with the ranking / match making system. If you have time guys lend them a hand:
http://www.doublehelixgames.com/forum/index.php?threads/quick-ranked-match-test.7999/
http://www.doublehelixgames.com/forum/index.php?threads/quick-ranked-match-test.7999/
finally figured out the shadow counter by screwing around in practice. is it supposed to randomly fuck up and either allow the shadow i'm countering to hit me anyways or just initiate the shadow effect without the actual counter or are these just glitches? maybe the timing has to be perfect to avoid either of these (too early and your shadow counter is interrupted, too late and you fizzle shadow)?
If you get hit more than once you get pwned and the counter is canceled. The idea is to use it just before the last (fifth) hit of the shadow move, or alternatively during a blockstring where they're unlikely to be able to hit you again
and the shadow effect without counter i take it is because its performed too late and the actual counter is missed?
Yup, it's basically a whiff then. I most of the time do it too late...
Twitch stream on Thursday
2:00 - 3:00pm PST
http://playxbla.com/this-weeks-twitch-tvxbox-schedule/
just watch the chat be filled with people asking about what's going to happen to the game
2:00 - 3:00pm PST
http://playxbla.com/this-weeks-twitch-tvxbox-schedule/
just watch the chat be filled with people asking about what's going to happen to the game
.la1n
Member
Should be interesting. Maybe they used last week off to prepare a statement. Doubt they can really say much until Microsoft announces the new developer / plans for the future. I'm not feeling particularly great about the future of the game at the moment. Just hope they can get the game relatively bug free again so I can enjoy playing online again.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Listening to it a few times every day. 9:15 gets so good.
So back on the same day that the news about Amazon broke, Mick uploaded a new Fulgore theme tease. Seems to have slipped by unnoticed around here, so I thought I would share.
https://vine.co/v/MarljgOrLXm
Also, judging by some of his more recent tweets, it seems like he might not be doing anymore themes after Fulgore? That would really suck if true. :[
Though I could just be that it hasn't been sorted out yet.
https://vine.co/v/MarljgOrLXm
Also, judging by some of his more recent tweets, it seems like he might not be doing anymore themes after Fulgore? That would really suck if true. :[
Though I could just be that it hasn't been sorted out yet.
Poker Face
Member
If Mick leaves too.... :/
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Would be weird if Mick left. He's not a Double Helix developer. He's a freelance musician. And he's a massive Killer Instinct nut. I can't see him turning down a season two contract unless his workload is so large juggling another character line-up just isn't possible, or Microsoft has no interest in getting him back.
Now this would really suck.
I'm somewhat optimistic that if the new staff has enough fighting game experience, and some key staff hang around that know the original vision for the game, the things will work out okay.
However I have absolutely zero confidence in anyone else doing the music... none whatsoever, regardless of who it is. It would be like having a Jet Set Radio soundtrack sans Naganuma. Just can't see it working...
Syphon Filter
Member
I thought i heard he would stay regardless. He is not from DH right?
EteRnal PAL
Member
That would seriously seriously suck if Mick leaves... seriously.
.la1n
Member
New art team / new modelers is one of the only benefits I can see from this to be honest. I wasn't overly impressed with Double Helix's output in those areas. Problem is we are also losing the guys who created the foundation the game is built on, that's the part I hate to see someone else taking on.
We are also losing a team that produced a patch that made online unplayable, put people into jail when they won, and caused ear drums to rupture during Ultras.
Higher quality art is always welcome, but the style should remain intact which is difficult.
Can't even imagine what the foundation and fighting system is like to pass to the next developer - must be taunting for both parties.
Hmm, MS developing the game internally?
Not sure... Might be a longer wait for info - maybe after Season 1.
However, appreciate the info - good to have communicating people there.
Poker Face
Member
Really hope we hear more sooner than later. Would be nice if the new studio is beginning work on character/stage design now.
He isn't with Double Helix, but if the new studio has an in-house composer he might be replaced. I REALLY hope he stays, but who knows at this point
He isn't with Double Helix, but if the new studio has an in-house composer he might be replaced. I REALLY hope he stays, but who knows at this point
Twin Tails
Member
Everyone should tweet at Mick asking him to stick around for season two. I did earlier and he favorited it!
why wouldn't he stick around?
I am so annoyed. I can't enter a single Exhibition Match with my friend. We have tried every other game on Xbox One we have (Halo, Forza, Ryse) but KI just does not work. I have tried restarting systems/routers etc.
It just says they are added to the game, we get a join message, and then it can't start multiplayer session. I can play Ranked, but that's full of rage-quitters and I want to play my old SF4 buddy.
argh!
It just says they are added to the game, we get a join message, and then it can't start multiplayer session. I can play Ranked, but that's full of rage-quitters and I want to play my old SF4 buddy.
argh!
Enordash
Member
It seems that while I was absent from this thread someone else decided to use this avatar as well, lol.
As excited as I was for Spinal originally, I am just not jiving with him at all. I'm having a hell of a time opening people up and not getting my ass punished. I pretty much know which moves of his are unsafe, but I feel like it leaves him lacking in options.
As excited as I was for Spinal originally, I am just not jiving with him at all. I'm having a hell of a time opening people up and not getting my ass punished. I pretty much know which moves of his are unsafe, but I feel like it leaves him lacking in options.
Have to remember that he isn't with DH or MS. Microsoft could simply not ask him to come back for season two if they decide to go with an in house composer for whatever new studio takes over.
People have asked him on twitter if he's still going to be working on the game after DH stops. His response has been that right now he's just focusing on making Fulgore something special. That to me sounds very uncertain.
You using light skeleport and slide kicks to get in close and then overhead/low mix ups? Also use heavies cancelled into things like searing skull, boneshaker, etc. to start building up your skulls.
Once you have skulls then start whiff punishing, using heavy skeleport cancelled into any special attack for the cost of one skull. Continue using mix ups to keep your opponent on a blocking guessing game. Also steal their shadow meter. Once you have meter you can use a shadow skeleport, which is invulnerable to everything (even throws). It's all about confusing your opponent's defense and putting the pressure on, so if you're not great at reading your opponent's strategy and varying your game on the fly then he may not be a great fit for you.