KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW

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Dave Long said:
Also, the guys with the Killzone avatars going apeshit over any Killzone information that's not glowingly positive smacks of company shillery. I mean, I know some of you have been here for years and years on GAF, but it's really questionable to be so overly touchy about this game before you've played it.

It reminds me of some of the SOCOM stuff before that shipped and turned out to be a giant steaming pile of bugs and barely any content. Maybe just relax and take it all in until you get to play the finished product, eh?
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Why do the Killzone fans have to be the enemies? They have every right to pick at every review they wish, some of the writing and nitpicks in them are worth mentioning to some. So let them.

You have a right to say they are incorrect if you wish as well.

Your wrong if you think this is only the problem of one side and not both. If in reality it is even a problem at all seeing as it is just a discussion.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
They're a person's opinion of a videogame, so yes it's totally acceptable.

Please stop getting angry about what someone thinks about your toys.
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Ok then, then my opinion it totally validated.

Why are you complaining again?
 
The Chef said:
Wish I got to be in the beta. I am going to get killed in MP I just know it.
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I wouldn't worry. The vast majority of people who are gonna be playing the final release will never have touched the Beta. The Beta was around 16,000 people I think and only a few thousand played A LOT. You'll be covered with slippery green n00bs come release, no worries.

Plus, if I suck with the other weapons while I was still playing the Beta, imagine how much I'm gonna suck after not playing for almost 3 months. I have a reputation to keep you know... *starts to panic*
 
One more thing on this:

Dave Long said:
Also, the guys with the Killzone avatars going apeshit over any Killzone information that's not glowingly positive smacks of company shillery. I mean, I know some of you have been here for years and years on GAF, but it's really questionable to be so overly touchy about this game before you've played it.
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Bullshit. An outright lie.

A few pages back, I posted a link to a review from PC World where the reviewer absolutely trashed the campaign and story, and even Brian Cox's stirring intro speech performance as Scolar Visari (even though he said the AI and multiplayer was still good enough to warrant a 90% total score in the end.) and I don't think a single person in this thread dwelled on those harsh criticisms at all, so your idea that "the guys with the Killzone avatars going apeshit over any Killzone information that's not glowingly positive" is just nonsense.

Most people in this thread can accept negative opinions, even clearly subjective ones like those in the PCW review which many disagree with, as long as the review seems fair, and is well-written like that review.

Some people need to stop their judgmental condemnations of Gaffers with "Killzone avatars" and all that other prejudicial crap, and just chill. You can't put every Gaffer into a neat little box and call all people excited for Killzone nuts. That makes you sound like a bigger windbag that these "Killzone avatar" people, and I doubt that's how anyone wants to be seen here.

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Somehow my original post got erased.

Some of us DID play the beta, Dave, so don't think that all of us with Killzone avatars are excited for no reason.

I don't see any evidence that the code has gotten any worse, only that improvements have been made...so yeah, we're excited.

The killjoys need to get a hobby.
 
Guys I got the Demo card. But whenever I enter the code it says its been redemeed or not valid. Do I have to enter it after the 5th?
Also did u guys know that whoever has the code it can be charged with 4 other accounts?
 
Cruzader said:
So you saying these types of 'reviews' are acceptable? Nit-picking to the max?
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- Sev is shorter than the others which feeds on his inferiority complex
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This is a potentially legitimate complaint, depending on how it manifests. UT3 launched with a similar issue and there was a HUGE uproar about it in the community. Think about it. If your eyesight is not at eye level then it becomes difficult to tell when you are actually concealed. From your vantage point you may be hiding behind a wall, but from the outside your head may be sticking over it. This is pretty important to MP so I'd be curious to see exactly how this presents itself.
- you can shoot helmets off the Helghast but they don't chase them and try and put them back on.
- There are no Asians in the supporting cast
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These are dumb
- The Helghast red eyes are cool but impractical (make them a glowing target).
- The troop transports that the ISA uses should have a roof on them
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These are mostly dumb too, but I can see the reasoning behind them if your looking for something strictly logical.

But that's not the point anyway. If people feel that a complaint is stupid or nitpicky, then they shouldn't let it bother them, as they presumably will ultimately not end up caring about it. I don't know why people get in such a fuss over what bothers others about a game. If a game gets a review that you feel is unjust, send a polite letter to the author explaining what he should reconsider in his review instead of ranting and raving about it on a message board in some obscure corner of the internet. By being calm and professional about what you disagree with, you're far more likely to garner a favorable response, and in the process you avoid coming across like a toddler who just had his ice cream taken away. Seems like a win-win, to me.
 
The Chef said:
Wish I got to be in the beta. I am going to get killed in MP I just know it.
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I go easy on you I promise!Really you will be find,everyone will start at the same as you,also we have no played for awhile ;)
 
SixStringPsycho said:
Guys I got the Demo card. But whenever I enter the code it says its been redemeed or not valid. Do I have to enter it after the 5th?
Also did u guys know that whoever has the code it can be charged with 4 other accounts?
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Use it tomorrow when store is updated.

You can share your account that has the demo. The code itself cant be shared.
 
I really hope everyone gets all their bitching about reviews/bitching about people bitching about reviews done in here so that the official thread can be full of awesomeness. This thread has gone downhill...
 
SixStringPsycho said:
Guys I got the Demo card. But whenever I enter the code it says its been redemeed or not valid. Do I have to enter it after the 5th?
Also did u guys know that whoever has the code it can be charged with 4 other accounts?
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It always does this if you enter the code before the demo is live.
 
Nafai1123 said:
I really hope everyone gets all their bitching about reviews/bitching about people bitching about reviews done in here so that the official thread can be full of awesomeness. This thread has gone downhill...
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It's a good thing Sony gave a greenlight for the reviews nearly a month in advance. People should be done complaining by the time it's actually released.
 
The demo is going up with the PSN update I thought. That usually comes out 5-6 pm est, when does the UK update usually come out.
 
FFObsessed said:
I wouldn't worry. The vast majority of people who are gonna be playing the final release will never have touched the Beta. The Beta was around 16,000 people I think and only a few thousand played A LOT. You'll be covered with slippery green n00bs come release, no worries.

Plus, if I suck with the other weapons while I was still playing the Beta, imagine how much I'm gonna suck after not playing for almost 3 months. I have a reputation to keep you know... *starts to panic*
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Loudninja said:
I go easy on you I promise!Really you will be find,everyone will start at the same as you,also we have no played for awhile ;)
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Hahahaha you guys are going to be so damn good. But thanks for the vote of confidence.
Still it will most likely look like this:

Loudninja ---:O---> Chef
FFObsessed ----:O---> Chef
 
SolidSnakex said:
It's a good thing Sony gave a greenlight for the reviews nearly a month in advance. People should be done complaining by the time it's actually released.
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Let's hope so. I'm continually amazed at gafs ability to find stupid shit to bitch about.

:lol Great title change btw. Only 23 day's of darkness left!

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The Chef said:
Hahahaha you guys are going to be so damn good. But thanks for the vote of confidence.
Still it will most likely look like this:

Loudninja ---:O---> Chef
FFObsessed ----:O---> Chef
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You do find,the demo should help you train :)
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Has Sony ever region locked a demo? I mean say I download KZ2 from the EU store is there a chance Sony will prevent it from playing on US consoles? I mean this has never been an issue on PSN with RE5 (though MS/Capcom did lock it on the 360), Valkyria Chronicles, or anything else I can think of. I just wanted to double check. I got my last grade in today (after having the the final a month later due to a snow closing) and it was pretty damn good, so I look forward to playing some KZ2 to celebrate tomorrow.

Thanks!
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Nope, only time was with Uncharted, but that was because Naughty Dog didn't remove a snippet of code that defined the region of console (Uncharted at the time actually would configure itself based on the region of your console to set the localization for you) and because they wanted to keep the demo filesize small, the other localizations were obviously not part of the demo. Of course Chris Balestra and friends at ND quickly fixed this issue post-haste.

Oh and fun fact, the trophy patch actually changes the localization rule, and now that is based on the game disc rather than the console.

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Title change is awesome. :D
This thread is totally out of any logic... come guys stop with the crazy reviews analisis and lets talk about the game! please ? Pretty please ?
 
SixStringPsycho said:
umm Cruzader the card says just like this:
"Entitlement allows download of the Killzone 2 Demo on 5 PS3 Systems per account."
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Right so each account that redeems a code can be shared to five others. Once you redeem the code, it cant be used again. Only the account that has the demo.
 
why so serious? have some happles

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Fersis said:
Title change is awesome. :D
This thread is totally out of any logic... come guys stop with the crazy reviews analisis and lets talk about the game! please ? Pretty please ?
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I heard this game has guns. How about them guns?

On a somewhat more on track note, what is going to be the weapon that you gush over?
Grenade launcher looks amazing, can't wait to get a feel for it's trajectory.
 
Fersis said:
Title change is awesome. :D
This thread is totally out of any logic... come guys stop with the crazy reviews analisis and lets talk about the game! please ? Pretty please ?
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I'm sick of it
 
Some one please save the thread with nice screenshots !
Too much fuzz about reviews and reviewers , come on it doesnt matter !
 
Some folks paratrooping into this thread seem to think that gaming reviews have some kind of special immunity from being critiqued themselves. Especially if they're from a respectable website or noted freelancer?

Um, I'm pretty sure that's not case, even outside this medium. Yes, really! It happens in all sorts of venues. Readers complaining to critics about their internal logic, double standards, cognitive dissonance, what have you... the critics sniveling at the ignorant rabble for questioning their judgment. Its a long and storied tradition. :p

Cool out, fellas.

edit- Also, isn't it kinda nice that people are debating, like... words? Instead of numbers I mean. That's progress!
 
singularity said:
Because shit like this makes me weep for this fucking medium that I love. OK. You guys love the game. Great. Enjoy it. But the constant denial of any criticism with calls of "who the fuck is this?" and "this guy sucks" and accusations of doing it "for the hits" or because of being an "XBot" (seriously, did you look at the comment thread in Tom Chick's review?)

I'm looking forward to giving this game a shot. But I don't understand why everything has to be an us vs them nerdfight. It's about as shallow and superficial as the stories in the games that people are arguing about. Are people so fucking self-centered that they react to any criticism of a luxury good (let's face it, videogames are. That's not meant to be dismissive.) as an affront to the whole of their being? Why can't we enjoy things and criticize them at the same time?

Besides, most of the people jumping on these guys' reviews haven't even played them game. Do you not realize how idiotic that is? And yes, I am a (quote:) shill because I'm interested in people's opinions before I play a game. GOD FORBID we should be exposed to negative, dissenting thought in a public forum about a game that many people will play.
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Standing Ovation, GREAT POST.
 
Achtius said:
Overrun with people who are not playing the demo.
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Well... the demo is gonna be up when im at work.. so i cant download or play it until i got home... but right now the thread is full of reviews discussion which are not fun at all :(
 
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